Jeremy Clarkson suspended by BBC...
Discussion
JensenA said:
legzr1 said:
mybrainhurts said:
Can't you spell, silly boy?
See, we got things right in the 70s, enjoyed them and learnt how to spell.
If you cave into right-on PC these days, you're left with a very dull existence that's all a bit girly...
If you let them carry on with this tripe, they'll take the army's guns away before you can stifle a fart because that's bad manners.
So fat and 50 and agreeing with him with a smile on your face, or the next generation, The 'PC correct' generation, in which case you're you're being hypocrpritical, in that you are ageist and also fatist.
I'm with Mybrainhurts on this, a precious post described how someone got a but drunk at a works party and groped a few women, he was reported, and lost his job. Another poster suggested he could sue the provider of the drinks as they were at fault for supplying him with alcohol. Those 2 posts just illustrate exactly the kind of thing what we 'oldis' despair of.
In my day (Lad) another man at that staff party would have hauled him outside, punched him in the face and told him to fck off home to the missus - end of the matter. Clarkson got annoyed and punched someone, again, in my day, they would both have been dragged apart and told to fck-off to their respective rooms - end of the matter. No 265 pages of posts, National Newspaper reports, headlines stories on News at 10, The Prime Minister getting involved, it's all pathetic nowadays.
Has anyone seen 'Rush', the film about James Hunt and Niki Lauda? In that a reporter at a press conference asks a very personal question to Niki Lauda, Niki Lauda tells the reporter to fck off. James Hunt heard the remark, and after the press conference drags the reporter into the mens toilets and beats the $hit out of him. End of the matter, it's sorted. Can you imagine Lewis Hamilton doing that today?
Were all becoming a big bunch of girlies, and the litigation Lawyers are getting richer and richer.
PS don't knock being over 50, because guess what, you'll
be there one day.
JensenA said:
I'm with Mybrainhurts on this, a precious post described how someone got a but drunk at a works party and groped a few women, he was reported, and lost his job. Another poster suggested he could sue the provider of the drinks as they were at fault for supplying him with alcohol. Those 2 posts just illustrate exactly the kind of thing what we 'oldis' despair of.
You despair over someone losing their job for sexually assaulting colleagues? JensenA said:
In my day (Lad) another man at that staff party would have hauled him outside, punched him in the face and told him to fck off home to the missus - end of the matter. Clarkson got annoyed and punched someone, again, in my day, they would both have been dragged apart and told to fck-off to their respective rooms - end of the matter. No 265 pages of posts, National Newspaper reports, headlines stories on News at 10, The Prime Minister getting involved, it's all pathetic nowadays.
That's all good and well until the person who get punched falls, hits their head and ends up with a fractured skull. Unless 'back in the day' people were, physically, made of more stern stuff, too... It's take a lot of work and legislation to move us away from backwards work environments where it's acceptable to sexually harass female colleagues (along with other discriminatory behaviour) and punch one another.
There's scope to behave like that in small businesses still, but not really in large, professional organisations.
so called said:
I see this situation as confirmation that the BBC are totally nieve to the benefits of negative advertising.
"Oh my god he's generating advertising , sack him, sack him, we are advertisement free". = no understanding.
Next years TG would have seen profits advance in double digits.
It's not like he ran over a bunny rabbit just before Easter.
No, he verbally abused and then punched a colleague. Go try that at work next week and see what happens. "Oh my god he's generating advertising , sack him, sack him, we are advertisement free". = no understanding.
Next years TG would have seen profits advance in double digits.
It's not like he ran over a bunny rabbit just before Easter.
You can whitter on about 'negative advertising' as they escort you to the door clutching your P45.
Corpulent Tosser said:
Ari said:
williamp said:
He should have spoken to acas. employer providing alcohol anc then surrised when alohol has this affdct. Could be constructive dismissal
Good grief, is this what it's come to? I doubt they pinned him down and poured it down his throat and presumably he's a grown adult so how about he shows some personal responsibility?
What next, bloke crashes company car at 120mph, sues company for giving him car that will do 120mph?
BBC declined to renew his contract.
(And also, later the original poster admitted he'd done some unspecified physical stuff too, which probably had rather more to do with it).
Someone suggested he should sue the employer for providing the drink.
BigBen said:
JensenA said:
James Hunt heard the remark, and after the press conference drags the reporter into the mens toilets and beats the $hit out of him. End of the matter, it's sorted. Can you imagine Lewis Hamilton doing that today?
The only problem with that according to most sources is that the Hunt incident did not happen.Ben
Someone quoting a fictitious scene in a movie for justification as to why Jeremy Clarkson should have been given a nod and a wink and told to carry on after abusing and punching a subordinate!
This really is the thread that keeps on giving.
don4l said:
RichB said:
stuttgartmetal said:
James Hunt couldn't punch his way out of a wet paper bag FFS.
Nikki was a lot tougher.
Which Nikki? Nikki was a lot tougher.
(That joke brought to you courtesy of 1977)
Anyway. Toads final thoughts on the whole thing.
1.) He shouldn't have done it.
2.) He had to report it because I have mentioned there
He had to go to the bosses as he knew they would go to the press with it blown up to be a much greater crime.
3.) There are people and some of them are very senior, at the BBC who are very glad that this has happened. They couldn't bear TG and fame that it generated for Clarkson & Co. The timing for them is very fortunate as if Mr Ed secures victory it means they have a clean slate with the only right-wing comedian (and therefore conduit for anti left-wing criticism) banished.
Of course, they haven't stopped to think that along with Doctor Who and Sherlock, TG was the only franchise they have that actually makes them any serious money abroad. But don't worry they will totally re-launch it with probably a more sympathetic approach and no one will watch it.
If anyone doesn't believe that, the amazing haste with which the Top Gear studio was gutted and cleaned out, would suggest someone has had an exit plan ready & waiting for some considerable time.
4.) I've said before and I'll say it again, Clarkson is clearly in poor health both physically and with his divorce mentally. Ever since the bridge building adventure, I have had the opinion he has been wishing he was somewhere else for virtually every show, especially the trip to Argentina.
So did he punch the bloke deliberately to save all the bother of contract negotiations? Not sure but it would save any awkward questions as to what might be wrong with him. Everyone keeps saying Sky, ITV or Netflix but my thoughts would be that it will be a while if goes back into full time TV. He might not even turn up for the HIGNFY he's booked for. But given the BBCs record for rehiring stars they have sacked for gross misconduct, after a suitable rest (a couple of months in The Priory?) he could go straight back to beeb.
5.) The most important point? Top Gear as we have known it, is dead.
Gone.
Finished
Bereft of life, it rests in peace.
And as far as this thread is concerned, Toad out.
Edited by The Hypno-Toad on Friday 3rd April 09:21
The Hypno-Toad said:
I SAID WHO WON THE WORLD DRIVERS CHAMPIONSHIP IN 1975!
(That joke brought to you courtesy of 1977)
Anyway. Toads final thoughts on the whole thing.
1.) He shouldn't have done it.
2.) He had to report it because I have mentioned thereis was someone in the production team/BBC liaison, who has been leaking information about the show to the press on a regular basis for some time. If not, how did 'not a teacher nursery rhyme' get into the public domain when it was an outtake and not broadcast?
He had to go to the bosses as he knew they would go to the press with it blown up to be a much greater crime.
3.) There are people and some of them are very senior, at the BBC who are very glad that this has happened. They couldn't bear TG and fame that it generated for Clarkson & Co. The timing for them is very fortunate as if Mr Ed secures victory it means they have a clean slate with the only right-wing comedian (and therefore conduit for anti left-wing criticism) banished.
Of course, they haven't stopped to think that along with Doctor Who and Sherlock, TG was the only franchise they have that actually makes them any serious money abroad. But don't worry they will totally re-launch it with probably a more sympathetic approach and no one will watch it.
If anyone doesn't believe that, the amazing haste with which the Top Gear studio was gutted and cleaned out, would suggest someone has had an exit plan ready & waiting for some considerable time.
4.) I've said before and I'll say it again, Clarkson is clearly in poor health both physically and with his divorce mentally. Ever since the bridge building adventure, I have had the opinion he has been wishing he was somewhere else for virtually every show, especially the trip to Argentina.
So did he punch the bloke deliberately to save all the bother of contract negotiations? Not sure but it would save any awkward questions as to what might be wrong with him. Everyone keeps saying Sky, ITV or Netflix but my thoughts would be that it will be a while if goes back into full time TV. He might not even turn up for the HIGNFY he's booked for. But given the BBCs record for rehiring stars they have sacked for gross misconduct, after a suitable rest (a couple of months in The Priory?) he could go straight back to beeb.
5.) The most important point? Top Gear as we have known it, is dead.
Gone.
Finished
Bereft of life, it rests in peace.
And as far as this thread is concerned, Toad out.
Love this thread, funniest thing on Pistonheads! (That joke brought to you courtesy of 1977)
Anyway. Toads final thoughts on the whole thing.
1.) He shouldn't have done it.
2.) He had to report it because I have mentioned there
He had to go to the bosses as he knew they would go to the press with it blown up to be a much greater crime.
3.) There are people and some of them are very senior, at the BBC who are very glad that this has happened. They couldn't bear TG and fame that it generated for Clarkson & Co. The timing for them is very fortunate as if Mr Ed secures victory it means they have a clean slate with the only right-wing comedian (and therefore conduit for anti left-wing criticism) banished.
Of course, they haven't stopped to think that along with Doctor Who and Sherlock, TG was the only franchise they have that actually makes them any serious money abroad. But don't worry they will totally re-launch it with probably a more sympathetic approach and no one will watch it.
If anyone doesn't believe that, the amazing haste with which the Top Gear studio was gutted and cleaned out, would suggest someone has had an exit plan ready & waiting for some considerable time.
4.) I've said before and I'll say it again, Clarkson is clearly in poor health both physically and with his divorce mentally. Ever since the bridge building adventure, I have had the opinion he has been wishing he was somewhere else for virtually every show, especially the trip to Argentina.
So did he punch the bloke deliberately to save all the bother of contract negotiations? Not sure but it would save any awkward questions as to what might be wrong with him. Everyone keeps saying Sky, ITV or Netflix but my thoughts would be that it will be a while if goes back into full time TV. He might not even turn up for the HIGNFY he's booked for. But given the BBCs record for rehiring stars they have sacked for gross misconduct, after a suitable rest (a couple of months in The Priory?) he could go straight back to beeb.
5.) The most important point? Top Gear as we have known it, is dead.
Gone.
Finished
Bereft of life, it rests in peace.
And as far as this thread is concerned, Toad out.
Edited by The Hypno-Toad on Friday 3rd April 09:21
Just hysterical. Literally!
The Hypno-Toad said:
4.) I've said before and I'll say it again, Clarkson is clearly in poor health both physically and with his divorce mentally. Ever since the bridge building adventure, I have had the opinion he has been wishing he was somewhere else for virtually every show, especially the trip to Argentina.
So did he punch the bloke deliberately to save all the bother of contract negotiations? Not sure but it would save any awkward questions as to what might be wrong with him.
Punching colleagues isn't usually the best opening gambit in contract negotiations, I find.So did he punch the bloke deliberately to save all the bother of contract negotiations? Not sure but it would save any awkward questions as to what might be wrong with him.
Edited by The Hypno-Toad on Friday 3rd April 09:21
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