Jeremy Clarkson suspended by BBC...

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Corpulent Tosser

5,459 posts

246 months

Friday 5th June 2015
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uk_vette said:
Would anyone watch Topgear without all of 4 of them as a team?

Not really,

AW is "non seen" part of the group, but for sure his input is probably more valuable as any of the 3 other single presenters.

vette

Edited by uk_vette on Friday 5th June 08:15
Yes, millions would watch it, it would be different from the last Top Gear, but the last Top Gear was different from the formats that came before it, people watched them, they will watch what comes next.

Perhaps not in the same numbers, well all the Clarkson lovers will presumably boycott it, but many others will happily watch it.

I will certainly give it a go and decide after I have watched it whether it is worth continuing to do so.

clonmult

10,529 posts

210 months

Friday 5th June 2015
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audi321 said:
Esseesse said:
Indeed, or, Apple are rumoured to have been making bigger moves with Apple TV recently. They need some quality content on there.
Absolutely agree. The Apple TV has huge potential which it doesn't fulfill. Imagine how many they would sell if they bought the rights to TG! Pin money for Apple to do it.....let's live and hope.
Apple and TG? Hahahahahahaha. Sorry, but thats unlikely. Apple are typically about being politically correct and not wanting to offend anyone. Clarksons humour isn't compatible with an Apple production.

WestyCarl

3,265 posts

126 months

Friday 5th June 2015
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uk_vette said:
Would anyone watch Topgear without all of 4 of them as a team?

Not really,

AW is "non seen" part of the group, but for sure his input is probably more valuable as any of the 3 other single presenters.

vette

Edited by uk_vette on Friday 5th June 08:15
I'd watch Topgear if it's a good program regardless of weather JC presents it or not.

Moonhawk

10,730 posts

220 months

Friday 5th June 2015
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eccles said:
I would be quite amusing if Hammond and May did come back and had Clarkson on as the star in a reasonably priced car! biggrin
I was thinking exactly that when it was on the news the other day about Hammond and May's offer. biggrin

Cheese Mechanic

3,157 posts

170 months

Friday 5th June 2015
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Having not had a TV for close to 10years, I obviously see few programmes. For me, TG was the only real "must" to watch on iplayer.

Why? Because the presenters, none of them get on my tits, I find all 3 engaging and jocular, all in their own ways. Heck, I liked TG.

The key reason I've historically taken a dislike to TV progs, is because the presenters get up my nose. I can think of few who do not, Coulthard, Paxman , Helen Castor, Titchmarsh, are some, the TG crew of course, but after those, I'm starting to struggle.

What really bugs me is that all too many of those "presenters" come across as more important than what they are presenting , gets on my tits.

Hence, TV down the tip.

clonmult

10,529 posts

210 months

Friday 5th June 2015
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WestyCarl said:
uk_vette said:
Would anyone watch Topgear without all of 4 of them as a team?

Not really,

AW is "non seen" part of the group, but for sure his input is probably more valuable as any of the 3 other single presenters.

vette

Edited by uk_vette on Friday 5th June 08:15
I'd watch Topgear if it's a good program regardless of weather JC presents it or not.
Last few seasons of TG:USA where they focused on the challenges was WAY better than most of the recent TG:UK shows. Very, very entertaining.

Blib

44,201 posts

198 months

Friday 5th June 2015
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Corpulent Tosser said:
Yes, millions would watch it, it would be different from the last Top Gear, but the last Top Gear was different from the formats that came before it, people watched them, they will watch what comes next.

Perhaps not in the same numbers, well all the Clarkson lovers will presumably boycott it, but many others will happily watch it.

I will certainly give it a go and decide after I have watched it whether it is worth continuing to do so.
Don't forget CT, Top Gear was axed by the BBC in 2001. It was Wilman and Clarkson who resurrected it a year later.

djdest

6,542 posts

179 months

Friday 5th June 2015
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I gave up watching HIGNFY after many years of enjoying it once they started having guest presenters.
It just seemed like each one was trying far too hard to be funny or clever.
I certainly wouldn't be interested in watching TG if that was the format

Moonhawk

10,730 posts

220 months

Friday 5th June 2015
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djdest said:
I gave up watching HIGNFY after many years of enjoying it once they started having guest presenters.
It just seemed like each one was trying far too hard to be funny or clever.
I certainly wouldn't be interested in watching TG if that was the format
Yep me too - same with Buzzcocks. You just don't get the same rapport with guest presenters.

popeyewhite

19,960 posts

121 months

Friday 5th June 2015
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Moonhawk said:
djdest said:
I gave up watching HIGNFY after many years of enjoying it once they started having guest presenters.
It just seemed like each one was trying far too hard to be funny or clever.
I certainly wouldn't be interested in watching TG if that was the format
Yep me too - same with Buzzcocks. You just don't get the same rapport with guest presenters.
Same here with HIGNFY. I'm gratified to see the three TG guys sticking together. After the two shytes on HIGNFY effectively stabbed Deayton in the back I stopped watching. Tried again a couple of years later but the magic just wasn't there with a guest presenter.

Corpulent Tosser

5,459 posts

246 months

Friday 5th June 2015
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Blib said:
Don't forget CT, Top Gear was axed by the BBC in 2001. It was Wilman and Clarkson who resurrected it a year later.
It was, but even then still had good viewing figures, a year later it was resurrected with a new line up including Clarkson and Hammond, not May at that time.

So it was a successful programme from late 70s to 2001, it was a successful programme more recently and I see no reason it cannot be a successful programme again, it won't be the same without Clarkson, but who knows it might even be better.


Blib

44,201 posts

198 months

Friday 5th June 2015
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You may well be right. However, it was originally axed because viewing figures had fallen off of a cliff.

FourWheelDrift

88,556 posts

285 months

Friday 5th June 2015
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Dropped from 6m to 3m, 3m is still a lot for BBC2 though.

maffski

1,868 posts

160 months

Friday 5th June 2015
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The Crack Fox said:
Halb said:
I like the idea of it, I hope May says yes.

I'd like to see Kryten as one of the guest hosts. He was brilliant on Scrapheap challenge.
Robert Llewelyn? He's big into electric cars but really isn't a petrol head in any sense of the word. He's friendly but clueless in person. Can't see that ever happening.
I recon Fully Charged could make a good tv show in it's own right.

anonymous-user

55 months

Friday 5th June 2015
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FourWheelDrift said:
Dropped from 6m to 3m, 3m is still a lot for BBC2 though.
It's always been a popular show and always will be. People have got a bit too carried away with the Clarkson stuff imo.

djdest

6,542 posts

179 months

Friday 5th June 2015
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I just cannot get my head around who would potentially put themselves on the line as a replacement for JC.
The risk factor of getting a hammering in the reviews and rating is surely too big a gamble for any established name

MarshPhantom

9,658 posts

138 months

Friday 5th June 2015
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otolith

56,206 posts

205 months

Friday 5th June 2015
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FourWheelDrift said:
Dropped from 6m to 3m, 3m is still a lot for BBC2 though.
You have to look at the figures in context, though. The BBC's overall viewing figures are not the same, you need to compare it to the rest of the Beeb's output.

In May 2001, the BBC's most viewed show was Eastenders, with 17.09 million viewers. Top Gear had 2.53 million viewers, and was the 15th most popular programme on BBC2. It was beaten by;

1 GARDENERS WORLD (FRI 2032) 4.16
2 HAVE I/NEWS FOR YOU (SUN 2231) 4.01
3 WORLD CHAMP SNOOKER (SUN 2001) 3.87
4 MALCOLM IN/MIDDLE (FRI/SAT) 3.62
5 SIMPSONS (FRI 1822) 3.43
6 WORLD CHAMP SNOOKER (SAT 2100) 3.42
7 WORLD CHAMP SNOOKER (SUN 1520) 3.34
8 NEVER MIND/BUZZCOCKS (MON/SAT) 3.33
9 SIMPSONS (FRI 1800) 3.19
10 TALKING LANDSCAPES (FRI 2003) 3.11
11 MOTOR CYCLING (SUN 1715) 3.05
12 SIMPSONS (MON 1802) 2.87
13 OLYMPIC DREAMS (SUN 1500) 2.59
14 TOTP2 (WED/SAT) 2.57
15 TOP GEAR (THU 2031) 2.53

Compare it to January this year, and the BBC's biggest hit was Call The Midwife with 10.49 million viewers while Top Gear was the most watched programme on BBC2 with 6.41 million. It wasn't being eclipsed by snooker and Gardener's World!

http://www.barb.co.uk/whats-new/weekly-top-30?

w/e 6 May 2001
w/e 25 Jan 2015

98elise

26,646 posts

162 months

Friday 5th June 2015
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St John Smythe said:
FourWheelDrift said:
Dropped from 6m to 3m, 3m is still a lot for BBC2 though.
It's always been a popular show and always will be. People have got a bit too carried away with the Clarkson stuff imo.
Old Top Gear spawned 2 shows. 5th Gear which retained the old format and presenters, and New Top Gear only retained the name and Clarkson.

5th Gear has continued to shed viewers by the bucket load, and is now on the history channel. Top Gear went on to becoming the worlds most successful "factual" show with 350 million viewers worldwide.

KarlMac

4,480 posts

142 months

Friday 5th June 2015
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All I know is that I'm off to see TGL tonight woohoo