Jeremy Clarkson suspended by BBC...
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Pesty said:
Article said:
But for too long now, it has been seen exclusively as the home of the pint-drinking, pedal-pumping, horse-powered man.
This is what annoys me, why is that a problem? why does everything have to appeal to both men and women? You have programs like "loose women" you don't see men arguing for a male presenter etcWhy can't they just accept that men and women like different things and that sometimes a man is better at presenting a certain show just as much as a woman is presenting other shows?
Why force it upon us, if Sabine Schmidt was to present it I would probably be great but not when it's forced and we're told to like it because it's equal.
mph1977 said:
Einion Yrth said:
hairyben said:
is there a word thats the equivalent of misogamist with the sexes reversed?
Misandrist.Oh and I think you meant "misogynist".
it's misandist to suggest that top gear "needs" a woman, these mealy mouthed PC pillocks talk of "equality" and in the same breath assert that 3 males are comprehensively lesser or lacking for not having a skirt in there.
ZOLLAR said:
This is what annoys me, why is that a problem? why does everything have to appeal to both men and women? You have programs like "loose women" you don't see men arguing for a male presenter etc
Why can't they just accept that men and women like different things and that sometimes a man is better at presenting a certain show just as much as a woman is presenting other shows?
Why force it upon us, if Sabine Schmidt was to present it I would probably be great but not when it's forced and we're told to like it because it's equal.
That's one thing I don't get - why do people assume that for a programme or movie to appeal to women - it has to be presented by or headlined by women.Why can't they just accept that men and women like different things and that sometimes a man is better at presenting a certain show just as much as a woman is presenting other shows?
Why force it upon us, if Sabine Schmidt was to present it I would probably be great but not when it's forced and we're told to like it because it's equal.
My wife loved top gear as it was - she doesn't think it has to be made more "female friendly". She finds female comedians in general rather less funny than their male counterparts and dislikes the BBCs new policy of insisting panel shows have at least one female comedian. I told her about the new 'all female' Ghostbusters - and her reply "it'll be s
t".Top gear could be good with the right female presenter - but I think it would be a mistake to put a female presenter in just to make it appeal to women more - or because it's seen at the thing to do. Whoever gets the new slot in TG (assuming there is one) - should be chosen based on merit alone (car knowledge and enthusiasm, humour etc), not to fulfill some sort of PC agenda.
Moonhawk said:
ZOLLAR said:
This is what annoys me, why is that a problem? why does everything have to appeal to both men and women? You have programs like "loose women" you don't see men arguing for a male presenter etc
Why can't they just accept that men and women like different things and that sometimes a man is better at presenting a certain show just as much as a woman is presenting other shows?
Why force it upon us, if Sabine Schmidt was to present it I would probably be great but not when it's forced and we're told to like it because it's equal.
That's one thing I don't get - why do people assume that for a programme or movie to appeal to women - it has to be presented by or headlined by women.Why can't they just accept that men and women like different things and that sometimes a man is better at presenting a certain show just as much as a woman is presenting other shows?
Why force it upon us, if Sabine Schmidt was to present it I would probably be great but not when it's forced and we're told to like it because it's equal.
My wife loved top gear as it was - she doesn't think it has to be made more "female friendly". She finds female comedians in general rather less funny than their male counterparts and dislikes the BBCs new policy of insisting panel shows have at least one female comedian. I told her about the new 'all female' Ghostbusters - and her reply "it'll be s
t".Top gear could be good with the right female presenter - but I think it would be a mistake to put a female presenter in just to make it appeal to women more - or because it's seen at the thing to do. Whoever gets the new slot in TG (assuming there is one) - should be chosen based on merit alone (car knowledge and enthusiasm, humour etc), not to fulfill some sort of PC agenda.
Reading that article it's clear that the writer doesn't understand what modern Top Gear was about, three mates who all really like cars having adventures and laughs based around the exploits in cars. That's what made the show popular. One of my favorite episodes was when the took the BMW 528, the Volvo R and Suburu to Africa. Are the BBC going to get in presenters to make these type of episodes?
I think all the people that are calling for a female presenter didn't watch Top Gear in the first place and are assuming it is just a car review show, something it hasn't really been for a long time.
I think all the people that are calling for a female presenter didn't watch Top Gear in the first place and are assuming it is just a car review show, something it hasn't really been for a long time.
Smollet said:
Pesty said:
Made me laugh. 
MarshPhantom said:
Chris Evans, can't see it personally and this may be a red herring, I really hope it's not him anyway. Unless they completely change the format, no foreign specials for example, as he has too many commitments already. Can't see him binning the R2 breakfast show for TG.
Really, the massive petrol head one ditch the radio for a car program?ZOLLAR said:
Pesty said:
Article said:
But for too long now, it has been seen exclusively as the home of the pint-drinking, pedal-pumping, horse-powered man.
This is what annoys me, why is that a problem? why does everything have to appeal to both men and women? You have programs like "loose women" you don't see men arguing for a male presenter etcWhy can't they just accept that men and women like different things and that sometimes a man is better at presenting a certain show just as much as a woman is presenting other shows?
Why force it upon us, if Sabine Schmidt was to present it I would probably be great but not when it's forced and we're told to like it because it's equal.
Because women do everything better than men. Everybody knows that..
MarshPhantom said:
Chris Evans, can't see it personally and this may be a red herring, I really hope it's not him anyway. Unless they completely change the format, no foreign specials for example, as he has too many commitments already. Can't see him binning the R2 breakfast show for TG.
I hope he wouldn't leave R2 it was the only place I went to after that idiot replaced Chris Moyles, don't want to change again 
illmonkey said:
MarshPhantom said:
Chris Evans, can't see it personally and this may be a red herring, I really hope it's not him anyway. Unless they completely change the format, no foreign specials for example, as he has too many commitments already. Can't see him binning the R2 breakfast show for TG.
Really, the massive petrol head one ditch the radio for a car program?k up by the BBC as Evans's breakfast show has record ratings yet he could be a flop on TG.Is he a massive petrol head? He spends a lot of money on cars but is he the sort of person who'd do a job because it meant they could spend more time around cars? I'm not convinced. I don't listen much but he loves golf more than anything else AFAIK.
ZOLLAR said:
Pesty said:
Article said:
But for too long now, it has been seen exclusively as the home of the pint-drinking, pedal-pumping, horse-powered man.
This is what annoys me, why is that a problem? why does everything have to appeal to both men and women? You have programs like "loose women" you don't see men arguing for a male presenter etcWhy can't they just accept that men and women like different things and that sometimes a man is better at presenting a certain show just as much as a woman is presenting other shows?
Why force it upon us, if Sabine Schmidt was to present it I would probably be great but not when it's forced and we're told to like it because it's equal.
It had far broader appeal than any other car show.
Men are not against women presenting the show, Sabine Schmidt comes up a lot as someone who would fit TG. If May of Hammond were to leave she would be a great replacement. I just don't think she would be a good replacement for JC, and nor would any of the men that have been put forward.
JC is a great journalist (IMO) and that comes across in the TG script. If you listen to what he says, its very close to the way he writes. That's what makes it entertaining, and that's what's needed if TG is to continue.
MarshPhantom said:
Chris Evans, can't see it personally and this may be a red herring, I really hope it's not him anyway. Unless they completely change the format, no foreign specials for example, as he has too many commitments already. Can't see him binning the R2 breakfast show for TG.
Evans and JC are very streetwise. It was either a joke by Evans to wind up JC or pre-planned to keep JC and the TG saga in the news until the new program is announced.Whoever takes it over is on a loser, a bit like trying to follow Fergie at Man U.
WestyCarl said:
MarshPhantom said:
Chris Evans, can't see it personally and this may be a red herring, I really hope it's not him anyway. Unless they completely change the format, no foreign specials for example, as he has too many commitments already. Can't see him binning the R2 breakfast show for TG.
Evans and JC are very streetwise. It was either a joke by Evans to wind up JC or pre-planned to keep JC and the TG saga in the news until the new program is announced.Whoever takes it over is on a loser, a bit like trying to follow Fergie at Man U.
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