Tory Chairman & MP Grant Shapps - Will the scumbag resign?

[silverous]

DocJock said:

I won't comment on the ethics of his business activities.

According to the newspaper claims he,

1. Used legal threats to make a constituent retract a statement which was true
2. Used legal threats to make a constituent publish an apology for printing a statement which was true
3. Threatened to sue for financial compensation because a constituent published a statement of fact.
4. Threatened to sue for his legal costs in bullying a constituent.

So pretty much what any MP or high profile businessman would probably have done. Let's not forget that Labour sexed up a dossier and took us to war, I consider that a bit more serious than some partisan tittle tattle on facebook and the ensuing attempt to dissipate that.

Sometimes you have to be careful what you wish for... I think we want politicians that are robots, they must have had real jobs and be presumably highly efficient leaders and drivers of change, but woe betide them if they've ever made money - that isn't acceptable unless they did so without ever being less than white (I suspect there aren't many of those). They can't have two kitchens or two jags or a trust fund, but we want them to work for a relatively low salary (bearing in mind the pacing of the streets at weekends, I wouldn't do that !) for the good of the country. Not going to happen. This has been dug up to discredit him and his party in the run up to the election, let's be honest about that.

[Gecko1978]

silverous said:

DocJock said:

I won't comment on the ethics of his business activities.

According to the newspaper claims he,

1. Used legal threats to make a constituent retract a statement which was true
2. Used legal threats to make a constituent publish an apology for printing a statement which was true
3. Threatened to sue for financial compensation because a constituent published a statement of fact.
4. Threatened to sue for his legal costs in bullying a constituent.

So pretty much what any MP or high profile businessman would probably have done. Let's not forget that Labour sexed up a dossier and took us to war, I consider that a bit more serious than some partisan tittle tattle on facebook and the ensuing attempt to dissipate that.

Sometimes you have to be careful what you wish for... I think we want politicians that are robots, they must have had real jobs and be presumably highly efficient leaders and drivers of change, but woe betide them if they've ever made money - that isn't acceptable unless they did so without ever being less than white (I suspect there aren't many of those). They can't have two kitchens or two jags or a trust fund, but we want them to work for a relatively low salary (bearing in mind the pacing of the streets at weekends, I wouldn't do that !) for the good of the country. Not going to happen. This has been dug up to discredit him and his party in the run up to the election, let's be honest about that.

You summed up my point much more eloquently than I did though I confess I did not know about the threats of legal action. Again it's an accusation in the media not proven fact. But if true very underhand and the sort of thing voters will not forget. But it's not a crime and did not cost the taxpayer etc. Shapps does pound the pavement and voters like that whether they do this time round we will see. I just don't see him in the same light as say Alex Salmomd who spent millions on a campagine for independence and promised the earth with made up numbers or say Rifkind or Straw who abused there positions etc all 3 should be ashamed of there decisions but I doubt they are Shapps well its election time so we will see but I stand by the fuss over nothing statement.

[jogon]

The dubious fella has apparently made up a middle name now as well.

http://www.sunnation.co.uk/grant-v-shapps-mystery-...

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[wc98]

Gecko1978 said:

silverous said:

DocJock said:

I won't comment on the ethics of his business activities.

According to the newspaper claims he,

1. Used legal threats to make a constituent retract a statement which was true
2. Used legal threats to make a constituent publish an apology for printing a statement which was true
3. Threatened to sue for financial compensation because a constituent published a statement of fact.
4. Threatened to sue for his legal costs in bullying a constituent.

So pretty much what any MP or high profile businessman would probably have done. Let's not forget that Labour sexed up a dossier and took us to war, I consider that a bit more serious than some partisan tittle tattle on facebook and the ensuing attempt to dissipate that.

Sometimes you have to be careful what you wish for... I think we want politicians that are robots, they must have had real jobs and be presumably highly efficient leaders and drivers of change, but woe betide them if they've ever made money - that isn't acceptable unless they did so without ever being less than white (I suspect there aren't many of those). They can't have two kitchens or two jags or a trust fund, but we want them to work for a relatively low salary (bearing in mind the pacing of the streets at weekends, I wouldn't do that !) for the good of the country. Not going to happen. This has been dug up to discredit him and his party in the run up to the election, let's be honest about that.

You summed up my point much more eloquently than I did though I confess I did not know about the threats of legal action. Again it's an accusation in the media not proven fact. But if true very underhand and the sort of thing voters will not forget. But it's not a crime and did not cost the taxpayer etc. Shapps does pound the pavement and voters like that whether they do this time round we will see. I just don't see him in the same light as say Alex Salmomd who spent millions on a campagine for independence and promised the earth with made up numbers or say Rifkind or Straw who abused there positions etc all 3 should be ashamed of there decisions but I doubt they are Shapps well its election time so we will see but I stand by the fuss over nothing statement.

eloquently is one way of putting it. silverous ,are you grant shapps ? no problem with mp,s making money, big problem when they use pseudonyms to do it with a pyramid scheme. on the other hand,if you are a fan of get rich quick schemes i can make you a ton of money by christmas for a small initial outlay,say 100k. pm me if interested

[BlackLabel]

Content from the sales letters sent out by Shapps.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/gran...




http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/gran...

[Blib]

He bought a Crossfire convertible? Blimey, it's worse than we thought.

[silverous]

He's definitely living the dream with two Chryslers on the drive I thought that sort of marketing would normally have the salesman in something a bit more exotic.

[Yazar]

And to think this fella is the Tory chairman!!

[Magog]

Looks like Shapps will be on The World at One shortly, wonder if there will be any surprise questions for him.

[Magog]

Magog said:

Looks like Shapps will be on The World at One shortly, wonder if there will be any surprise questions for him.

Yep they've got him squirming!

[Yazar]

Summary of todays developements:

1) Previous statement made by Shapps saying that he had published his real name and biographical details on his website have been proved a lie, after 700 archived versions of his site were analysed.
2) After being made aware of the above the Tory Chairmans spokesman declined to again repeat this claim they had made
3) The guy Shapps wrongly bullied into an apology has handed Shapps a legal letter today which demands an apology, otherwise to face legal action.
4) When asked about the above false bullying on Radio 4, he dodged the question.
4) Shapps put through £2,400 in printing expenses between 2005 and 2007, the printing was done by a company that Shapps setup and owns...


http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/mar/25/gr...

[jogon]

Yazar said:

Summary of todays developements:

1) Previous statement made by Shapps saying that he had published his real name and biographical details on his website have been proved a lie, after 700 archived versions of his site were analysed.
2) After being made aware of the above the Tory Chairmans spokesman declined to again repeat this claim they had made
3) The guy Shapps wrongly bullied into an apology has handed Shapps a legal letter today which demands an apology, otherwise to face legal action.
4) Shapps put through £2,400 in printing expenses between 2005 and 2007, the printing was done by a company that Shapps setup and owns...

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/mar/25/gr...

Thanks for the summary.

Now all we need to find out is a detailed record of his accounts and tax paid during these years. I believe this Howtocorp has been making large sums of money even before it was publicly listed, just where did these funds get paid and was any tax paid?

[carinaman]

BlackLabel said:

Content from the sales letters sent out by Shapps.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/gran...




http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/gran...

Top Gear awaits for Mr Shapps?

Star in a Reasonably Priced Aeroplane?

Cock Pit?

Edited by carinaman on Wednesday 25th March 18:50

[jogon]

The sleeze ball is getting a good grilling on bbc's newsnight this evening. How anyone can vote for this devious and manipulative fool is beyond me.

[carinaman]

Thanks I'll check it later on iplayer. I've seen a couple of references elsewhere about QT so I'll give that a go too.

[MarshPhantom]

He really is a slimeball, Newsnight worth a look.

[MarshPhantom]

carinaman said:

BlackLabel said:

Content from the sales letters sent out by Shapps.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/gran...




http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/gran...

Top Gear awaits for Mr Shapps?

Star in a Reasonably Priced Aeroplane?

Cock Pit?

Edited by carinaman on Wednesday 25th March 18:50

Top Liar?

[carinaman]

I rarely watch TV. QT and that Newsnight were a bit tame.

Shapps does read a bit like Alan Partridge in that text besides the Crossfire photo where he says he's also 'invested' in a 7 seater Chrysler Voyager for family use.

One of his kids isn't called Fernando are they?

Edited by carinaman on Tuesday 31st March 04:21

[carinaman]

He's on Radio 4's Any Questions tonight, along with Hillary Benn.

[rohrl]

A mystery candidate going by the name of Michael Green (Shapps's alter ego) is standing against Shapps in the General Election.

http://www.itv.com/news/2015-04-10/mystery-candida...