Germanwings A320 crashed in France :(

Germanwings A320 crashed in France :(

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Muddle238

3,911 posts

114 months

Tuesday 24th March 2015
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Very scary to hear about this tradgedy, very very sad indeed. Especially sad to think that just 3 hours ago, the aircraft was still airborne yet now reduced to a million pieces and spread all over the world headlines.

Thoughts with the passengers and crew, the families and friends, the airline colleagues, the ATC controllers and especially the French authorities and rescue workers who as we speak, are currently making their way to the likely still smouldering crash site.

Must be a terrible thing to be the first on scene of what will inevitably be such a catastrophic scene of wreckage and bodies.

I hope that the investigation is able to determine cause of the accident quickly, in the interests of all families involved/affected.

Mojocvh

16,837 posts

263 months

Tuesday 24th March 2015
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fking BBC have rolled out their "hit team" complete with apple products to communicate the latest ttter dross over as the "news".......

Asterix

24,438 posts

229 months

Tuesday 24th March 2015
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Following the PPRuNe thread on said crash - they really like a punch up on there! Makes PH look gentile.

Starfighter

4,935 posts

179 months

Tuesday 24th March 2015
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MikeyC said:
terrible news frown

looking at the graph posted of speed/altitude, looks almost as if it levelled out @ 30,000ft, but then started going higher, reaching ~39,000ft which is near to the aircrafts ceiling according to this
Level at 30,000 out of the climb is likely to be to clear air traffic. 39,000 is within the envelope and I have been on a number of A320 (and variants) at 39,000. The graph and data table do indicate that the cruise part of the flight was under control for some time before it went wrong.

Le TVR

3,092 posts

252 months

Tuesday 24th March 2015
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onyx39 said:
Too busy in the cockpit trying to fix stuff?
Doubt it. Ever since Eastern 401 in the 70s when exactly that did happen it has been taught that someone is always assigned to maintain watch.

anonymous-user

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55 months

Tuesday 24th March 2015
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Asterix said:
Following the PPRuNe thread on said crash - they really like a punch up on there! Makes PH look gentile.
Yeah but at least they're pilots, so know a little about what they're talking about. On here, it'll be an IT Technician who has read a Tom Clancy book (twice) getting angry because another IT Technician doesn't believe him. hehe

Hooli

32,278 posts

201 months

Tuesday 24th March 2015
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OpulentBob said:
Asterix said:
Following the PPRuNe thread on said crash - they really like a punch up on there! Makes PH look gentile.
Yeah but at least they're pilots, so know a little about what they're talking about. On here, it'll be an IT Technician who has read a Tom Clancy book (twice) getting angry because another IT Technician doesn't believe him. hehe
hehe

Le TVR

3,092 posts

252 months

Tuesday 24th March 2015
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OpulentBob said:
Asterix said:
Following the PPRuNe thread
Yeah but at least they're pilots
roflbiglaughrofl

Mostly flight sim pilots.
Feel sorry for the Mods on Pprune, that thread would be twice as long if it wasn't for their swift editing of all the carp being spouted.

Asterix

24,438 posts

229 months

Tuesday 24th March 2015
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Le TVR said:
OpulentBob said:
Asterix said:
Following the PPRuNe thread
Yeah but at least they're pilots
roflbiglaughrofl

Mostly flight sim pilots.
Feel sorry for the Mods on Pprune, that thread would be twice as long if it wasn't for their swift editing of all the carp being spouted.
They do seem to have to do a fair bit of mopping up.

ChemicalChaos

10,406 posts

161 months

Tuesday 24th March 2015
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Charlie1986 said:
is the A320 not normally a safe aircraft to Fly? have flown many times with Germanwings there our company's preferred choice
If there's one thing that watching many episodes of Air Crash Investigation has taught me, its that for a plane to crash requires a combination of at least 3 things going wrong simultaneously to create such a situation. Such is the relative normal safety of flying, that statistically you'd have to fly every day for 20 years before being involved in a crash.

TO answer the question, the A320 is, like the 737, one of the worlds most flown workhorses of the sky, and consequently is very safe

johnxjsc1985

15,948 posts

165 months

Tuesday 24th March 2015
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Watching Sky News with the presenter talking to a variety of experts hoping just one of them will mention the "T" word.

airbusA346

788 posts

154 months

Tuesday 24th March 2015
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AirLive.net ‏@airlivenet 11m
BREAKING -4C on the #Germanwings crash site. Snow and wind expected in few mins.

onyx39

11,129 posts

151 months

Tuesday 24th March 2015
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Le TVR said:
onyx39 said:
Too busy in the cockpit trying to fix stuff?
Doubt it. Ever since Eastern 401 in the 70s when exactly that did happen it has been taught that someone is always assigned to maintain watch.
But surely there could be scenario's where SOP's go out of the window if you are trying to save the aircraft?

Le TVR

3,092 posts

252 months

Tuesday 24th March 2015
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Witness in the nearby village says that she saw the aircraft dissapear behind a ridge followed by an explosion an a column of smoke. Then, she said, a pair of jet fighters overflew the village.
Maybe the lack of comms and the unauthorised decent triggered an interception by the airforce? They would have followed it right down.

SpeckledJim

31,608 posts

254 months

Tuesday 24th March 2015
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ChemicalChaos said:
Charlie1986 said:
is the A320 not normally a safe aircraft to Fly? have flown many times with Germanwings there our company's preferred choice
If there's one thing that watching many episodes of Air Crash Investigation has taught me, its that for a plane to crash requires a combination of at least 3 things going wrong simultaneously to create such a situation. Such is the relative normal safety of flying, that statistically you'd have to fly every day for 20 years before being involved in a crash.

TO answer the question, the A320 is, like the 737, one of the worlds most flown workhorses of the sky, and consequently is very safe
So most commercial pilots will have a crash then? Stop making stuff up.

johnxjsc1985

15,948 posts

165 months

Tuesday 24th March 2015
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my thoughts go out to the poor sods who have to now go there and recover the bodies etc. What a job, the scene that awaits them must be beyond imagination.

Puggit

48,512 posts

249 months

Tuesday 24th March 2015
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Le TVR said:
Witness in the nearby village says that she saw the aircraft dissapear behind a ridge followed by an explosion an a column of smoke. Then, she said, a pair of jet fighters overflew the village.
Maybe the lack of comms and the unauthorised decent triggered an interception by the airforce? They would have followed it right down.
That would be a stunning piece of news, as French authorities haven't mentioned fighters being scrambled. Obviously it's highly unlikely they would have been the cause of the incident, but it won't stop some people...

Asterix

24,438 posts

229 months

Tuesday 24th March 2015
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Le TVR said:
Witness in the nearby village says that she saw the aircraft dissapear behind a ridge followed by an explosion an a column of smoke. Then, she said, a pair of jet fighters overflew the village.
Maybe the lack of comms and the unauthorised decent triggered an interception by the airforce? They would have followed it right down.
Source?

Puggit

48,512 posts

249 months

Tuesday 24th March 2015
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SpeckledJim said:
So most commercial pilots will have a crash then? Stop making stuff up.
I don't know if the fact is true - but you're stating that commercial pilots fly every day...?

The Moose

22,868 posts

210 months

Tuesday 24th March 2015
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Puggit said:
SpeckledJim said:
So most commercial pilots will have a crash then? Stop making stuff up.
I don't know if the fact is true - but you're stating that commercial pilots fly every day...?
No wonder they crash if they fly every day for 20 years. Must be totally worn out wink