Germanwings A320 crashed in France :(

Germanwings A320 crashed in France :(

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Timmy40

12,915 posts

198 months

Tuesday 31st March 2015
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NeMiSiS said:
M4cruiser said:
This is still a valid point, and I suspect we shall never know ..... but suppose the aircraft electronics went wrong, it locked the door, cut power to many electronic circuits, started to descend, and the poor chap is alone in the cockpit frantically trying to sort it out, and can't open the door, or doesn't have time to do so ......... and ends up getting blamed for the crash.
Wow, do you smoke a lot of weed?
He has a point though, for all we know the pilot is a hero recruited by the CIA to bring the plane down and stop a high level, yet unknown Bulgarian physicist from delivering into the hands of Putin the ability to make a super weapon. The poor passengers were collateral damage.

Just saying. It could be.

Oakey

27,564 posts

216 months

Tuesday 31st March 2015
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I suspect we're about 10 posts away before someone puts forward this is actually a hoax by Zionist conspiracists

Hugo a Gogo

23,378 posts

233 months

Tuesday 31st March 2015
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I saw a facebook post link, saying it was a magnetic pulse cause by CERN...


Timmy40

12,915 posts

198 months

Tuesday 31st March 2015
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Hugo a Gogo said:
I saw a facebook post link, saying it was a magnetic pulse cause by CERN...
It could explain the presence of the two fighter jets, I prefer my theory though, and I reckon the fighters were there to bring down the plane carrying the Bulgarian physicist if the co-pilot had second thoughts. A sort of insurance policy. Also the press assumed they were French jets, could easily have been black ops.

Sheepshanks

32,746 posts

119 months

Tuesday 31st March 2015
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Hugo a Gogo said:
I saw a facebook post link, saying it was a magnetic pulse cause by CERN...
Hmmm...it's certainly true that they've been trying restart the Large Hadron Collider and have been having problems doing so...

Pesty

42,655 posts

256 months

Tuesday 31st March 2015
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M4cruiser said:
This is still a valid point, and I suspect we shall never know ..... but suppose the aircraft electronics went wrong, it locked the door, cut power to many electronic circuits, started to descend, and the poor chap is alone in the cockpit frantically trying to sort it out, and can't open the door, or doesn't have time to do so ......... and ends up getting blamed for the crash.

It's not hugely different to AF447, except for that there were 3 in the cockpit and we established the mistake one of them made.

dazwalsh

6,095 posts

141 months

Tuesday 31st March 2015
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M4cruiser said:
This is still a valid point, and I suspect we shall never know ..... but suppose the aircraft electronics went wrong, it locked the door, cut power to many electronic circuits, started to descend, and the poor chap is alone in the cockpit frantically trying to sort it out, and can't open the door, or doesn't have time to do so ......... and ends up getting blamed for the crash.

It's not hugely different to AF447, except for that there were 3 in the cockpit and we established the mistake one of them made.
You would think the murdering scumbag would have said something on the radio on the way down rather than sat there in silence, and the radios were working as he was heard breathing and the captain knocking at the door.

Dr Jekyll

23,820 posts

261 months

Tuesday 31st March 2015
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dazwalsh said:
and the radios were working as he was heard breathing and the captain knocking at the door.
I think that was on the CVR not the radio transmission.

maffski

1,868 posts

159 months

Tuesday 31st March 2015
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Timmy40 said:
Hugo a Gogo said:
I saw a facebook post link, saying it was a magnetic pulse cause by CERN...
It could explain the presence of the two fighter jets...
Like atoms? When you smash a big plane it turns into two smaller ones? I know they've just turned up the power at CERN but I didn't realise it was by that much.


Driller

8,310 posts

278 months

Tuesday 31st March 2015
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dazwalsh said:
You would think the murdering scumbag would have said something on the radio on the way down rather than sat there in silence, and the radios were working as he was heard breathing and the captain knocking at the door.
In my mind I imagine him setting the controls for the heart of the sun, recling his seat, leaning back, closing his eyes and waiting calmly for oblivion.

Asterix

24,438 posts

228 months

Tuesday 31st March 2015
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Driller said:
dazwalsh said:
You would think the murdering scumbag would have said something on the radio on the way down rather than sat there in silence, and the radios were working as he was heard breathing and the captain knocking at the door.
In my mind I imagine him setting the controls for the heart of the sun, recling his seat, leaning back, closing his eyes and waiting calmly for oblivion.
That's what I thought as well - he probably didn't even have the courage to face what was coming.

Finlandia

7,803 posts

231 months

Tuesday 31st March 2015
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A Swedish expert has been quoted in news here saying that it's too early to rule out a technical fault, and that the pilot could be innocent.

Moonhawk

10,730 posts

219 months

Tuesday 31st March 2015
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Finlandia said:
A Swedish expert has been quoted in news here saying that it's too early to rule out a technical fault, and that the pilot could be innocent.
Seems unlikely though - unless the co-pilot was also incapacitated somehow.

If it was a technical fault (and there would have had to have been several) and the co-pilot was concious - surely he would have responded to the captain requests to open the door with "I can't open the door, it's jammed" etc. If the co-pilot was struggling to try and open the door or gain control of the plane - these struggles would have been picked up by the cockpit voice recorder.

Finlandia

7,803 posts

231 months

Tuesday 31st March 2015
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Moonhawk said:
Finlandia said:
A Swedish expert has been quoted in news here saying that it's too early to rule out a technical fault, and that the pilot could be innocent.
Seems unlikely though - unless the co-pilot was also incapacitated somehow.

If it was a technical fault (and there would have had to have been several) and the co-pilot was concious - surely he would have responded to the captain requests to open the door with "I can't open the door, it's jammed" etc. If the co-pilot was struggling to try and open the door or gain control of the plane - these struggles would have been picked up by the cockpit voice recorder.
It really seems very far fetched.

Oakey

27,564 posts

216 months

Tuesday 31st March 2015
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What happens if the cabin depressurises? Does the rest of the fuselage automatically depressurise too? Could the FO have depressurised the cabin after setting the flight level to 100ft in order to give himself Hypoxia whilst the rest of the passengers and crew remained conscious?

Dr Jekyll

23,820 posts

261 months

Tuesday 31st March 2015
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Oakey said:
What happens if the cabin depressurises? Does the rest of the fuselage automatically depressurise too? Could the FO have depressurised the cabin after setting the flight level to 100ft in order to give himself Hypoxia whilst the rest of the passengers and crew remained conscious?
No, either the entire pressurisable area including the cockpit is pressurised or none of it is.

Zod

35,295 posts

258 months

Tuesday 31st March 2015
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Dr Jekyll said:
Oakey said:
What happens if the cabin depressurises? Does the rest of the fuselage automatically depressurise too? Could the FO have depressurised the cabin after setting the flight level to 100ft in order to give himself Hypoxia whilst the rest of the passengers and crew remained conscious?
No, either the entire pressurisable area including the cockpit is pressurised or none of it is.
In any case, he was breathing normally.

Steffan

10,362 posts

228 months

Tuesday 31st March 2015
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Driller said:
dazwalsh said:
You would think the murdering scumbag would have said something on the radio on the way down rather than sat there in silence, and the radios were working as he was heard breathing and the captain knocking at the door.
In my mind I imagine him setting the controls for the heart of the sun, recling his seat, leaning back, closing his eyes and waiting calmly for oblivion.
Very possibly. I time we may hear more.

Predicting the actions of such desperate individuals is well beyond my understanding. Tragedy for all those travellers involved and their families. Desperately sad affair.


Hainey

4,381 posts

200 months

Tuesday 31st March 2015
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My Spring 2015 BALPA mag came in the post today, complete with an article obviously written before the tragedy. The subject?

How we can all expect to be alone in the cruise for a few hours in the flight deck as we all shift to single pilot cruise flying.

I rather doubt that now.

Sheepshanks

32,746 posts

119 months

Tuesday 31st March 2015
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Hainey said:
My Spring 2015 BALPA mag came in the post today, complete with an article obviously written before the tragedy. The subject?

How we can all expect to be alone in the cruise for a few hours in the flight deck as we all shift to single pilot cruise flying.

I rather doubt that now.
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