Germanwings A320 crashed in France :(
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RobGT81 said:
camshafted said:
Link to an unconfirmed images of the scene.
https://twitter.com/thatjohn/status/58038875604308...
https://twitter.com/AmichaiStein1/status/580389123...
As above, is unconfirmed.
No snow?https://twitter.com/thatjohn/status/58038875604308...
https://twitter.com/AmichaiStein1/status/580389123...
As above, is unconfirmed.
JRM said:
The decent looks too smooth to suggest something as major than that - we should start a theory thread! Mine is structural failure leading to fast decompression, pilots switched of auto-pilot in order to descend to a lower altitude, passed out before applying oxygen masks, came round at the lower altitude just enough to set 7700 squawk. Horrible thought though.
That's the theory I'm most aligned with. If the pilots were still in control, heading for the mountains would have been the last place to aim for given other possible options.
Boydie88 said:
loose cannon said:
460 mph hopefully the poor souls didn't no to much about it R.i.P 
It's the 9 minute descent. Just hope for their sake it was a loss of pressure which knocked everyone unconscious.That's the trouble with 24h news coverage. They need way more stuff to fill it then avaliable news. We want lots of info straightaway but that info only trickles it's way through. So we just end up with loads of taking heads.
I ŵent on a plane once so have an opinion that needs to be aired. Not.
I ŵent on a plane once so have an opinion that needs to be aired. Not.
Eric Mc said:
That is what ALL media does. The BBC are no worse or no better.
Yeo, I mentioned about being a bit emotionally retarded at times and were I one of the interviewees who had nothing to do with it other than to be in the next resort I would find it hard not to be inflammatory and say something along the lines of "How do I feel? Gutted, it's closed the slopes, I'm going back home in a day's time and I just think that the whole thing is such an inconvenience." And then watch the jaws drop...
Asterix said:
That's the theory I'm most aligned with.
If the pilots were still in control, heading for the mountains would have been the last place to aim for given other possible options.
Why on earth would they disengage the autopilot during a decompression? They then BOTH forgot to follow procedures which are to don the oxygen mask before descending to 10,000 or the Minimum Safe Altitude (if higher) If the pilots were still in control, heading for the mountains would have been the last place to aim for given other possible options.
So they apparently made three major mistakes?
el stovey said:
Why on earth would they disengage the autopilot during a decompression? They then BOTH forgot to follow procedures which are to don the oxygen mask before descending to 10,000 or the Minimum Safe Altitude (if higher)
So they apparently made three major mistakes?
Perhaps, So they apparently made three major mistakes?
Isn't the basic formula for an accident three elements?
S10GTA said:
Boydie88 said:
loose cannon said:
460 mph hopefully the poor souls didn't no to much about it R.i.P
It's the 9 minute descent. Just hope for their sake it was a loss of pressure which knocked everyone unconscious.el stovey said:
Asterix said:
That's the theory I'm most aligned with.
If the pilots were still in control, heading for the mountains would have been the last place to aim for given other possible options.
Why on earth would they disengage the autopilot during a decompression? They then BOTH forgot to follow procedures which are to don the oxygen mask before descending to 10,000 or the Minimum Safe Altitude (if higher) If the pilots were still in control, heading for the mountains would have been the last place to aim for given other possible options.
So they apparently made three major mistakes?
Asterix said:
Perhaps,
Isn't the basic formula for an accident three elements?
The point is, the autopilot is engaged in the cruise. You wouldn't ever disengage it in a decompression. You first put on your mask then establish communication then descend using the automatics. You only set a decent to 10,000ft or higher initially.Isn't the basic formula for an accident three elements?
You're suggesting they both ignored all those procedures and started a manual descent and became incapacitated?
el stovey said:
Why on earth would they disengage the autopilot during a decompression? They then BOTH forgot to follow procedures which are to don the oxygen mask before descending to 10,000 or the Minimum Safe Altitude (if higher)
So they apparently made three major mistakes?
Looking at the path, it doesn't look like the autopilot was disengaged. Instead something has caused the descent while they were incapped.So they apparently made three major mistakes?
Crashes often are a perfect storm of mistakes.
Hereward said:
Can the flight recorders survive the huge energy they will have experienced in that crash? I know they are supremely robust but everything has a limit...
Can sustain a 3400g impact and temps of 1000c according to wiki http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flight_recorder
Boydie88 said:
Looking at the path, it doesn't look like the autopilot was disengaged. Instead something has caused the descent while they were incapped.
Crashes often are a perfect storm of mistakes.
Crashes often are a perfect storm of mistakes.
To descend using the autopilot, don't you need to set an altitude to descend to first?
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