Germanwings A320 crashed in France :(
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Charlie1986 said:
I know that. What i mean is with all European regulations there hasn't been many maybe any? crashes involving a European registered A320 so it must have been a horrific incident
Given how strict the Germans are on maintenance, I've never felt safer than on a Lufthansa flight, but i suppose you can't account for random chance.Looks like they didn't stand a chance.
https://goo.gl/maps/A3LVq
Straight into a forested mountainside.
RIP all.
https://goo.gl/maps/A3LVq
Straight into a forested mountainside.
RIP all.
nyxster said:
onyx39 said:
ALL aircraft are safe.
Accidents / tech failures still happen though.
RIP to all those aboard.
And sadly of course, you can't rule out terrorism/hijacking attempt.Accidents / tech failures still happen though.
RIP to all those aboard.
Spain's borders are very porous to North Africa, and with Islamic Stare operational in Tunisia there is always a worrying chance.
Apologies for slight thread derailment, but does anyone know of the recent (last year) incident in which a German A320-series lost a lot of altitude over nortern Spain (I think) but the all female(?)crew did a managed to overcome problem? I think I read the report on AV Herald but can't seem to find it now. When I read it my first thought is that the same odd situation could happen again but would the next crew be able to overcome the problem so effectively.
Edit: found it: http://avherald.com/h?article=47d74074
"loss of altitude had been caused by two angle of attack sensors having frozen in their positions during climb at an angle, that caused the fly by wire protection to assume, the aircraft entered a stall while it climbed through FL310. The Alpha Protection activated forcing the aircraft to pitch down, which could not be corrected even by full back stick input. The crew eventually disconnected the related Air Data Units and was able to recover the aircraft".
Edit: found it: http://avherald.com/h?article=47d74074
"loss of altitude had been caused by two angle of attack sensors having frozen in their positions during climb at an angle, that caused the fly by wire protection to assume, the aircraft entered a stall while it climbed through FL310. The Alpha Protection activated forcing the aircraft to pitch down, which could not be corrected even by full back stick input. The crew eventually disconnected the related Air Data Units and was able to recover the aircraft".
Edited by Katzenjammer on Tuesday 24th March 11:22
Edited by Katzenjammer on Tuesday 24th March 11:23
Apparently a 24 year old aircraft... though one would expect it is maintained. I have flown on similarly old aircraft not all that long ago with United! Some of their fleet are nearly as old as I am!
Lufthansa have a similarly aged A320's which they are or have put through life extension programs as they have come to their designed lifespan.
Lufthansa have a similarly aged A320's which they are or have put through life extension programs as they have come to their designed lifespan.
Edited by Otispunkmeyer on Tuesday 24th March 11:20
Been a while since any major airliners have crashed like this in Western Europe.
I can remember the Spanair one not that long ago (pilots forgot to set the flaps at take-off IIRC) but no others.
Despite hundreds of planes and thousands of flights a day the likes of Ryanair, easyJet, Air Berlin etc. all have 100% safety records.
Horrible thing.
I can remember the Spanair one not that long ago (pilots forgot to set the flaps at take-off IIRC) but no others.
Despite hundreds of planes and thousands of flights a day the likes of Ryanair, easyJet, Air Berlin etc. all have 100% safety records.
Horrible thing.
Katzenjammer said:
Apologies for slight thread derailment, but does anyone know of the recent (last year or two) incident in which a German A320-series lost a lot of altitude over nortern Spain (I think) but the all female crew did a managed to overcome problem? I think I read the report on AV Herald but can't seem to find it now. When I read it my first thought is that the same odd situation could happen again but would the next crew be able to overcome the probelm so effectively.
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