Germanwings A320 crashed in France :(
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nyxster said:
I'd have a smoke and nail as much of the drinks trolley as possible with a sandwich and contemplate which sky pixie variant to make amends with, i'd consider propositioning the nearest female as well which would take my mind off the situation for three minutes, four if she wanted foreplay.
Real amusing - not!!!!!!!150 poor bloody people have just died - a little respect would cost you nothing.
danjama said:
Boydie88 said:
Sorry but if you're minutes from a certain death with the only way to prevent that would be to break down the unbreakable door, what the fk would you do? I'd be trying with bit of energy in the hope there is a faulty bit of strengthening as that is your only hope.
I agree, of course he's going to have a go anyway! What a stupid statement!whatever the final outcome the co pilot was the worst sort of selfish bd there is.
wc98 said:
i think the main issue from all the quotes from professionals in the industry is the sheer disbelief a pilot would do this. it may well have taken 8 mins for the descent , but how many minutes did the locked out pilot spend believing there was a genuine issue shortly to be resolved before realising the awful truth. i think (and i am stressing think) there is an axe in the main cabin in the a 320 ,and a proper go at the hinges/hinge areas may eventually get through the door, but i doubt in a few mins,which is all they would have had in this situation. absolutely horrific for all concerned.
whatever the final outcome the co pilot was the worst sort of selfish bd there is.
No axe in the passenger cabin. Crash axe in the Flight deck, yes.whatever the final outcome the co pilot was the worst sort of selfish bd there is.
I've posted a few times regarding the situation, but since we know more it seems even more tragic. I have to say I feel exceptionally sorry for his family - I know I may be alone in that feeling, but having to grieve in the knowledge of what who you're grieving over has done must be nothing short of awful in the extreme.
Mermaid said:
& bus drivers too perform a highly responsible task but the risks/skills/attributes are rather different.
Exactly. Commercial pilots are pretty much just that, there is a bit of excitement on take off and again on landing and that's it.My dad was a pilot all his life for the RAF and then Laker's, then SIA. It was his statement.
So many people regard pilots as if it were the 1950's still- oh he's a pilot. So what? imo its akin to tube/ train/ bus/coach/HGV/ forklift drivers. Albeit with varying levels of training required.
nyxster said:
I'd have a smoke and nail as much of the drinks trolley as possible with a sandwich and contemplate which sky pixie variant to make amends with, i'd consider propositioning the nearest female as well which would take my mind off the situation for three minutes, four if she wanted foreplay.
AreOut on PPRUNE said:
any psychologists here, why is it that we now have several pilot suicides with many pax killed yet I have never heard of a bus driver doing a suicide and killing the passengers along the way?
Is.. is the answer because buses don't do 400mph+ and take forever to get up to speed whilst being operated in areas that are heavy in traffic?I work in the industry, and I can confirm that everyone I have spoken to at work today is completely incredulous that this horrendous incident could have happened. There have been similar incidents before, but never so close to home.
I'm sure the same is true for everyone in the industry around the world . It is just inconcievable that someone in our industry, one of our own colleagues, who is responsible for and entrusted with the safety of his crew and his passengers could have done this.
It's hard to know what else to say really. We are all just completely stunned.
I'm sure the same is true for everyone in the industry around the world . It is just inconcievable that someone in our industry, one of our own colleagues, who is responsible for and entrusted with the safety of his crew and his passengers could have done this.
It's hard to know what else to say really. We are all just completely stunned.
LittleAnus said:
Exactly. Commercial pilots are pretty much just that, there is a bit of excitement on take off and again on landing and that's it.
My dad was a pilot all his life for the RAF and then Laker's, then SIA. It was his statement.
So many people regard pilots as if it were the 1950's still- oh he's a pilot. So what? imo its akin to tube/ train/ bus/coach/HGV/ forklift drivers. Albeit with varying levels of training required.
Your 'IMO' holds no weight unless it were an 'IME'.My dad was a pilot all his life for the RAF and then Laker's, then SIA. It was his statement.
So many people regard pilots as if it were the 1950's still- oh he's a pilot. So what? imo its akin to tube/ train/ bus/coach/HGV/ forklift drivers. Albeit with varying levels of training required.
LittleEnus said:
Exactly. Commercial pilots are pretty much just that, there is a bit of excitement on take off and again on landing and that's it.
My dad was a pilot all his life for the RAF and then Laker's, then SIA. It was his statement.
So many people regard pilots as if it were the 1950's still- oh he's a pilot. So what? imo its akin to tube/ train/ bus/coach/HGV/ forklift drivers. Albeit with varying levels of training required.
Your dad is playing down his old career and you're using his statement to put down his profession on the Internet. My dad was a pilot all his life for the RAF and then Laker's, then SIA. It was his statement.
So many people regard pilots as if it were the 1950's still- oh he's a pilot. So what? imo its akin to tube/ train/ bus/coach/HGV/ forklift drivers. Albeit with varying levels of training required.
What do you do for a living?
Boydie88 said:
I don't understand why people can't comprehend the suicide?
Perhaps because the vast majority of suicides do not include the premeditated murder of over a hundred innocents. Even a school shooting is typically precipitated by the treatment of the shooter by their peers.el stovey said:
LittleEnus said:
Exactly. Commercial pilots are pretty much just that, there is a bit of excitement on take off and again on landing and that's it.
My dad was a pilot all his life for the RAF and then Laker's, then SIA. It was his statement.
So many people regard pilots as if it were the 1950's still- oh he's a pilot. So what? imo its akin to tube/ train/ bus/coach/HGV/ forklift drivers. Albeit with varying levels of training required.
Your dad is playing down his old career and you're using his statement to put down his profession on the Internet. My dad was a pilot all his life for the RAF and then Laker's, then SIA. It was his statement.
So many people regard pilots as if it were the 1950's still- oh he's a pilot. So what? imo its akin to tube/ train/ bus/coach/HGV/ forklift drivers. Albeit with varying levels of training required.
What do you do for a living?
What a fool.
MitchT said:
Apologies if I'm missing something that's obvious to everyone else, but what evidence is there to prove beyond all doubt that it was the captain who left the cockpit rather than the first officer?
His voice on the recording? and i reckon data showing he left his chair to take a piss.superkartracer said:
His voice on the recording? and i reckon data showing he left his chair to take a piss.
How do they know whose voice is which unless the pilots address each other by name in such a way as to indicate who is leaving the cockpit? Nothing to this effect has been mentioned in any of the reports. Also, how does the CVR provide data indicating which seat has been vacated? The FDR may but we don't have that yet.SPS said:
Real amusing - not!!!!!!!
150 poor bloody people have just died - a little respect would cost you nothing.
I have a lot of respect for them, but having spent several years racking up thousands of air-miles every month with more than my fair share of give the round of applause to the pilot st your pants landings, i've had plenty of time to consider and come to terms with the final minutes of your life being completely out of your control.150 poor bloody people have just died - a little respect would cost you nothing.
And genuinely speaking without one trace of snark, between a futile attempt to kick in a terrorist proof door, and time for a shag, smoke and several vodkas, i know the latter would make the final moments on planet earth seem better spent.
This forum seems to be over-run with the mock-offended these days. I made a suggestion on how i would choose to spend my last moments on the planet given the choice, and you take that to mean that as some sort of pissing on graves offensive statement.
I didn't kill those people, the pilot did. And it could have just as easily been any of us on that plane, so obviously i am sympathetic to their loss, but it doesn't change the fact a drink and a smoke would take the edge off the impending knowledge of the fact my number was up.
kapiteinlangzaam said:
Oakey said:
AreOut on PPRUNE said:
any psychologists here, why is it that we now have several pilot suicides with many pax killed yet I have never heard of a bus driver doing a suicide and killing the passengers along the way?
Is.. is the answer because buses don't do 400mph+ and take forever to get up to speed whilst being operated in areas that are heavy in traffic?http://www.monitor.co.ug/News/National/driver-arre...
MitchT said:
superkartracer said:
His voice on the recording? and i reckon data showing he left his chair to take a piss.
How do they know whose voice is which unless the pilots address each other by name in such a way as to indicate who is leaving the cockpit? Nothing to this has been mentioned in any of the reports. Also, how does the CVR provide data indicating which seat has been vacated? The FDR may but we don't have that yet.Gassing Station | News, Politics & Economics | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff