Germanwings A320 crashed in France :(

Germanwings A320 crashed in France :(

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SPS

1,306 posts

261 months

Thursday 26th March 2015
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nyxster said:
I'd have a smoke and nail as much of the drinks trolley as possible with a sandwich and contemplate which sky pixie variant to make amends with, i'd consider propositioning the nearest female as well which would take my mind off the situation for three minutes, four if she wanted foreplay.
Real amusing - not!!!!!!!
150 poor bloody people have just died - a little respect would cost you nothing.


wc98

10,424 posts

141 months

Thursday 26th March 2015
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danjama said:
Boydie88 said:
Sorry but if you're minutes from a certain death with the only way to prevent that would be to break down the unbreakable door, what the fk would you do? I'd be trying with bit of energy in the hope there is a faulty bit of strengthening as that is your only hope.
I agree, of course he's going to have a go anyway! What a stupid statement!
i think the main issue from all the quotes from professionals in the industry is the sheer disbelief a pilot would do this. it may well have taken 8 mins for the descent , but how many minutes did the locked out pilot spend believing there was a genuine issue shortly to be resolved before realising the awful truth. i think (and i am stressing think) there is an axe in the main cabin in the a 320 ,and a proper go at the hinges/hinge areas may eventually get through the door, but i doubt in a few mins,which is all they would have had in this situation. absolutely horrific for all concerned.

whatever the final outcome the co pilot was the worst sort of selfish bd there is.

nessiemac

1,550 posts

242 months

Thursday 26th March 2015
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wc98 said:
i think the main issue from all the quotes from professionals in the industry is the sheer disbelief a pilot would do this. it may well have taken 8 mins for the descent , but how many minutes did the locked out pilot spend believing there was a genuine issue shortly to be resolved before realising the awful truth. i think (and i am stressing think) there is an axe in the main cabin in the a 320 ,and a proper go at the hinges/hinge areas may eventually get through the door, but i doubt in a few mins,which is all they would have had in this situation. absolutely horrific for all concerned.

whatever the final outcome the co pilot was the worst sort of selfish bd there is.
No axe in the passenger cabin. Crash axe in the Flight deck, yes.


MitchT

15,889 posts

210 months

Thursday 26th March 2015
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Apologies if I'm missing something that's obvious to everyone else, but what evidence is there to prove beyond all doubt that it was the captain who left the cockpit rather than the first officer?

Petrus1983

8,775 posts

163 months

Thursday 26th March 2015
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I've posted a few times regarding the situation, but since we know more it seems even more tragic. I have to say I feel exceptionally sorry for his family - I know I may be alone in that feeling, but having to grieve in the knowledge of what who you're grieving over has done must be nothing short of awful in the extreme.

LittleEnus

3,228 posts

175 months

Thursday 26th March 2015
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Mermaid said:
yes & bus drivers too perform a highly responsible task but the risks/skills/attributes are rather different.
Exactly. Commercial pilots are pretty much just that, there is a bit of excitement on take off and again on landing and that's it.

My dad was a pilot all his life for the RAF and then Laker's, then SIA. It was his statement.

So many people regard pilots as if it were the 1950's still- oh he's a pilot. So what? imo its akin to tube/ train/ bus/coach/HGV/ forklift drivers. Albeit with varying levels of training required.



onyx39

11,128 posts

151 months

Thursday 26th March 2015
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MitchT said:
Apologies if I'm missing something that's obvious to everyone else, but what evidence is there to prove beyond all doubt that it was the captain who left the cockpit rather than the first officer?
Presumably conversation from the Cvr

moanthebairns

17,949 posts

199 months

Thursday 26th March 2015
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Well I sat down to watch airplane. It's now cancelled because of thiS


Timbuk2

1,953 posts

156 months

Thursday 26th March 2015
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nyxster said:
I'd have a smoke and nail as much of the drinks trolley as possible with a sandwich and contemplate which sky pixie variant to make amends with, i'd consider propositioning the nearest female as well which would take my mind off the situation for three minutes, four if she wanted foreplay.
hehe


Oakey

27,595 posts

217 months

Thursday 26th March 2015
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AreOut on PPRUNE said:
any psychologists here, why is it that we now have several pilot suicides with many pax killed yet I have never heard of a bus driver doing a suicide and killing the passengers along the way?
Is.. is the answer because buses don't do 400mph+ and take forever to get up to speed whilst being operated in areas that are heavy in traffic?

Bradgate

2,826 posts

148 months

Thursday 26th March 2015
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I work in the industry, and I can confirm that everyone I have spoken to at work today is completely incredulous that this horrendous incident could have happened. There have been similar incidents before, but never so close to home.

I'm sure the same is true for everyone in the industry around the world . It is just inconcievable that someone in our industry, one of our own colleagues, who is responsible for and entrusted with the safety of his crew and his passengers could have done this.

It's hard to know what else to say really. We are all just completely stunned.


pushthebutton

1,097 posts

183 months

Thursday 26th March 2015
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LittleAnus said:
Exactly. Commercial pilots are pretty much just that, there is a bit of excitement on take off and again on landing and that's it.

My dad was a pilot all his life for the RAF and then Laker's, then SIA. It was his statement.

So many people regard pilots as if it were the 1950's still- oh he's a pilot. So what? imo its akin to tube/ train/ bus/coach/HGV/ forklift drivers. Albeit with varying levels of training required.
Your 'IMO' holds no weight unless it were an 'IME'.

anonymous-user

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55 months

Thursday 26th March 2015
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LittleEnus said:
Exactly. Commercial pilots are pretty much just that, there is a bit of excitement on take off and again on landing and that's it.

My dad was a pilot all his life for the RAF and then Laker's, then SIA. It was his statement.

So many people regard pilots as if it were the 1950's still- oh he's a pilot. So what? imo its akin to tube/ train/ bus/coach/HGV/ forklift drivers. Albeit with varying levels of training required.
Your dad is playing down his old career and you're using his statement to put down his profession on the Internet.

What do you do for a living?

rhinochopig

17,932 posts

199 months

Thursday 26th March 2015
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Boydie88 said:
I don't understand why people can't comprehend the suicide?
Perhaps because the vast majority of suicides do not include the premeditated murder of over a hundred innocents. Even a school shooting is typically precipitated by the treatment of the shooter by their peers.

superkartracer

8,959 posts

223 months

Thursday 26th March 2015
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el stovey said:
LittleEnus said:
Exactly. Commercial pilots are pretty much just that, there is a bit of excitement on take off and again on landing and that's it.

My dad was a pilot all his life for the RAF and then Laker's, then SIA. It was his statement.

So many people regard pilots as if it were the 1950's still- oh he's a pilot. So what? imo its akin to tube/ train/ bus/coach/HGV/ forklift drivers. Albeit with varying levels of training required.
Your dad is playing down his old career and you're using his statement to put down his profession on the Internet.

What do you do for a living?
Not much.. looking at his ride ha ha

What a fool.

superkartracer

8,959 posts

223 months

Thursday 26th March 2015
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MitchT said:
Apologies if I'm missing something that's obvious to everyone else, but what evidence is there to prove beyond all doubt that it was the captain who left the cockpit rather than the first officer?
His voice on the recording? and i reckon data showing he left his chair to take a piss.

MitchT

15,889 posts

210 months

Thursday 26th March 2015
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superkartracer said:
His voice on the recording? and i reckon data showing he left his chair to take a piss.
How do they know whose voice is which unless the pilots address each other by name in such a way as to indicate who is leaving the cockpit? Nothing to this effect has been mentioned in any of the reports. Also, how does the CVR provide data indicating which seat has been vacated? The FDR may but we don't have that yet.

nyxster

1,452 posts

172 months

Thursday 26th March 2015
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SPS said:
Real amusing - not!!!!!!!
150 poor bloody people have just died - a little respect would cost you nothing.
I have a lot of respect for them, but having spent several years racking up thousands of air-miles every month with more than my fair share of give the round of applause to the pilot st your pants landings, i've had plenty of time to consider and come to terms with the final minutes of your life being completely out of your control.

And genuinely speaking without one trace of snark, between a futile attempt to kick in a terrorist proof door, and time for a shag, smoke and several vodkas, i know the latter would make the final moments on planet earth seem better spent.

This forum seems to be over-run with the mock-offended these days. I made a suggestion on how i would choose to spend my last moments on the planet given the choice, and you take that to mean that as some sort of pissing on graves offensive statement.

I didn't kill those people, the pilot did. And it could have just as easily been any of us on that plane, so obviously i am sympathetic to their loss, but it doesn't change the fact a drink and a smoke would take the edge off the impending knowledge of the fact my number was up.


Oakey

27,595 posts

217 months

Thursday 26th March 2015
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kapiteinlangzaam said:
Oakey said:
AreOut on PPRUNE said:
any psychologists here, why is it that we now have several pilot suicides with many pax killed yet I have never heard of a bus driver doing a suicide and killing the passengers along the way?
Is.. is the answer because buses don't do 400mph+ and take forever to get up to speed whilst being operated in areas that are heavy in traffic?
Oh no, they let AREOUT on PPrune too? frown
Just for his benefit I found this:

http://www.monitor.co.ug/News/National/driver-arre...

DrDoofenshmirtz

15,252 posts

201 months

Thursday 26th March 2015
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MitchT said:
superkartracer said:
His voice on the recording? and i reckon data showing he left his chair to take a piss.
How do they know whose voice is which unless the pilots address each other by name in such a way as to indicate who is leaving the cockpit? Nothing to this has been mentioned in any of the reports. Also, how does the CVR provide data indicating which seat has been vacated? The FDR may but we don't have that yet.
Let's not over think this...They simply recognise the voice.