UKIP - The Future - Volume 4

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steveT350C

6,728 posts

161 months

Sunday 19th April 2015
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So academics at LSE funded by EU produce report claiming immigration benefits UK.

Meanwhile, in the real world, UK workers demonstrate at being discriminated against in favour of cheap labour from Eastern Europe.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tees-32357591

eatcustard

1,003 posts

127 months

Sunday 19th April 2015
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Countdown said:
eatcustard said:
If they want us to buy their goods, they will have to play to our tune, we can buy goods from other markets who want to do a deal and they will deal or be left out of a big piece of the ££££ we spend.
Which "other" markets are we going to buy BMWs, Mercs, and Audis from?

Conversely, what goods do we provide to them that they couldn't source from elsewhere?
As I said previously, the Germans and French will keep everything as is, they will not want to upset business for themselves

wc98

10,391 posts

140 months

Sunday 19th April 2015
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steveT350C said:
So academics at LSE funded by EU produce report claiming immigration benefits UK.

Meanwhile, in the real world, UK workers demonstrate at being discriminated against in favour of cheap labour from Eastern Europe.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tees-32357591
yet the daft tts will continue to vote labour, the party that created the situation in the first place.

turbobloke

103,953 posts

260 months

Sunday 19th April 2015
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NicD

3,281 posts

257 months

Sunday 19th April 2015
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Yet another UKIP policy I completely agree with:

“There is an institutional problem,” Mr Farage told the Sunday Express.

“I have spent several years saying that I think our political class are the problem but my view is changing. I think the media class is perhaps an even bigger problem.

“I would like to see a BBC stripped to the bones. It clearly needs absolutely radical root and branch reform.”

McWigglebum4th

32,414 posts

204 months

Sunday 19th April 2015
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It is not just the beeb that is the problem as all media outlets treat the viewer like they are borderline retarded


I don't see how the beeb is any worse then any other organisation that is stuffed to gills with media studies graduates


Like McDonalds Sky

allergictocheese

1,290 posts

113 months

Sunday 19th April 2015
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wc98 said:
looking at the comments section of the article it is entirely possible there was no teacher involved.
Isn't it fairly academic (pin intended)?

Nobody doubts the leaflet is rotten. Whether it was a teacher marking it or you, or I, who cares?

Of course, either the 'kipper is a victim of an elaborate fraud or he's not so hot at his own language. Neither paints a great picture, does it?

turbobloke

103,953 posts

260 months

Sunday 19th April 2015
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McWigglebum4th said:
It is not just the beeb that is the problem as all media outlets treat the viewer like they are borderline retarded


I don't see how the beeb is any worse then any other organisation that is stuffed to gills with media studies graduates


Like McDonalds Sky
The BBC is more biased (left) and other media aren't strictly comparable since they aren't in effect funded by compulsion from people who want to watch live broadcasts on other channels without breaking the law.

If anyone actually buys The Guardian, and admittedly very few do, they are at least entering willingly into a strings-free deal to buy a load of lefty drivel. If that's what they want, fine, and everyone knows the score. The BBC then uses the same lefty drivel and broadcasts it as impartial coverage of current affairs.

20 year BBC time served Peter Sissons said:
I lost count of the number of times I asked a producer for a brief on a story, only to be handed a copy of The Guardian and told ‘it’s all in there’.
20 year BBC time served Robin Aitken said:
The BBC is biased, and it is a bias that seriously distorts public debate.

In the past 30 years, 'Auntie' has transformed from the staid upholder of the status quo to a champion of progressive causes.

In the process, the ideal at the heart of the corporation - that it should be fair-minded and non-partisan - has all but disappeared.

johnxjsc1985

15,948 posts

164 months

Sunday 19th April 2015
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NicD said:
Yet another UKIP policy I completely agree with:

“There is an institutional problem,” Mr Farage told the Sunday Express.

“I have spent several years saying that I think our political class are the problem but my view is changing. I think the media class is perhaps an even bigger problem.

“I would like to see a BBC stripped to the bones. It clearly needs absolutely radical root and branch reform.”
but what about Casualty, the Lottery show and all them useful cake cooking programmes what will we all do.

McWigglebum4th

32,414 posts

204 months

Sunday 19th April 2015
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BURN ALL BBC VIEWERS AS THEY ARE COMMUNISTS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



That should cover the next 30 posts from turbobloke

turbobloke

103,953 posts

260 months

Sunday 19th April 2015
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McWigglebum4th said:
BURN ALL BBC VIEWERS AS THEY ARE COMMUNISTS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
That's odd, I've never said a word against BBC viewers. The diet they are spoon fed as impartial coverage is the problem. Target the pusher as they say.

McWigglebum4th said:
That should cover the next 30 posts from turbobloke
My next 30 posts aren't that predictable but, amazingly, yours could well be.

TKF

6,232 posts

235 months

Sunday 19th April 2015
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McWigglebum4th said:
BURN ALL BBC VIEWERS AS THEY ARE COMMUNISTS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



That should cover the next 30 posts from turbobloke
I wonder if he'll stop paying his TV licence in protest or just bleat about it on the internet?

McWigglebum4th

32,414 posts

204 months

Sunday 19th April 2015
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TKF said:
I wonder if he'll stop paying his TV licence in protest or just bleat about it on the internet?
I stopped paying mine when Topgear got binned

NicD

3,281 posts

257 months

Sunday 19th April 2015
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johnxjsc1985 said:
but what about Casualty, the Lottery show and all them useful cake cooking programmes what will we all do.
My partner is an avid watcher of Casualty but I find it cringe material.

I do sometimes watch Coast and science programs, I used to watch TG.

I also watch the F1 coverage - at least the cars racing but fast forward (while swearing) the majority, involving white jeans, inane chatter and perma tanned, over opinionated midgets.

All of which should be available in a slimmed down, subscription model.

Mr GrimNasty

8,172 posts

170 months

Sunday 19th April 2015
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johnxjsc1985 said:
but what about Casualty, the Lottery show and all them useful cake cooking programmes what will we all do.
Casualty and Holby are classic left-wing propaganda saturated carp, gays, cuts, FGM, cringeworthy.


johnxjsc1985

15,948 posts

164 months

Sunday 19th April 2015
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Mr GrimNasty said:
Casualty and Holby are classic left-wing propaganda saturated carp, gays, cuts, FGM, cringeworthy.
The BBC is a political beast that has got out of control and it needs putting down ASAP.
I havent watched QT for years it should have been renamed bash the right wingers.

rohrl

8,737 posts

145 months

Sunday 19th April 2015
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The debate audience that Nigel Farage was complaining about was picked to reflect the views of the general public by ICM, an independent polling company, and not by the BBC.

Presumably Farage spends most of his time with UKIP supporters so an audience which consists of 30-ish% Conservative voters, a similar amount of Labour voters and the rest split between the Lib-Dems, SNP, UKIP and others will feel more antagonistic than usual. Throwing his toys out of the pram is not a sensible move and money spent on lawyers will be money wasted.

turbobloke

103,953 posts

260 months

Sunday 19th April 2015
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rohrl said:
The debate audience that Nigel Farage was complaining about was picked to reflect the views of the general public by ICM, an independent polling company, and not by the BBC.
Yes indeed that's what the article says, nobody has said otherwise so whatever point you're making is already made.

Express article said:
In a formal letter to the BBC, party lawyer Andrew Reid has requested details of the company used to select those who were there, how the company was chosen, who at the BBC was involved in the instruction of the company and what research had been done into the ownership of the company and political make-up of its staff.
There's no claim that the BBC selected the audience.

Laurel Green

30,779 posts

232 months

Sunday 19th April 2015
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Farage was on LBC not thirty minutes ago saying he would be writing to the BBC asking how the 'pickage came about. Never mentioned lawyers.

anonymous-user

54 months

Sunday 19th April 2015
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NicD said:
Well one purports to be an independent, academic report, the other is from a party manifesto.

If your 'logic' equates the two, I feel sorry for you.
According to you:
One is a report purporting to come from an independant instution (a university) that finds in favour of it's funder (the EU) and apparently that makes it rubbish
One is a report purporting to come from an independant institution (the cebr) that finds in favour of it's funder (UKIP) and apparently we are just to believe it?