UKIP - The Future - Volume 4

[TKF]

OK, in trifecta order

don, yes I'm assuming people have heard about the hundreds of migrants that died recently in the Med.
Scuffers, "colour me surprised" is a sarcastic way of saying someone is completely unsurprised at a very predictable result.
Nic, Google Peter Endean and see the reaction to the tweet that he has apologised unreservedly for.

[NicD]

TKF said:

OK, in trifecta order

don, yes I'm assuming people have heard about the hundreds of migrants that died recently in the Med.
Scuffers, "colour me surprised" is a sarcastic way of saying someone is completely unsurprised at a very predictable result.
Nic, Google Peter Endean and see the reaction to the tweet that he has apologised unreservedly for.

Can you re-arrange this into something that makes sense (and is relevant) to the people you address.
We don't have time for your brain dump.

and frankly could care less about your po faced attempt to concoct some PC outrage and then attribute this to us.

go and huddle with your 'balanced and rational people', maybe they will give you the time of day.

[don4l]

TKF said:

OK, in trifecta order

don, yes I'm assuming people have heard about the hundreds of migrants that died recently in the Med.

Yes, I have heard that people have died in the Med. Apparently they were all on overcrowded boats. There was nothing in the photo, or in your post to suggest that the boat was overcrowded.

[JustAnotherLogin]

NicD said:

TKF said:

I thought I knew what a trifecta is and that's why I mis-used it.

EFA

You'd have so hated Shakespeare if you'd been around in the 16th century


On to less of a ping-pong discussion:
There has been much discussion of how many seats UKIP will get. Is there a level at which Kippers will feel disappointed?
0? 1? 4? Or will 0 be OK as long as there are lots of 2nd places?

I'm not trying to make a political point, but it may be indicative of what will be the impact post-election if the lower end of UKIP expectation happens

[Art0ir]

JustAnotherLogin said:

You'd have so hated Shakespeare if you'd been around in the 16th century


On to less of a ping-pong discussion:
There has been much discussion of how many seats UKIP will get. Is there a level at which Kippers will feel disappointed?
0? 1? 4? Or will 0 be OK as long as there are lots of 2nd places?

I'm not trying to make a political point, but it may be indicative of what will be the impact post-election if the lower end of UKIP expectation happens

4 I think the latest "poll of polls" was predicting, but there's some very tight races so it could go 0-10 IMO. Anything more than 4 will be championed as a victory by the party I imagine and allow them build a localised power base as per Lib Dems a few years back.

[Axionknight]

JustAnotherLogin said:

You'd have so hated Shakespeare if you'd been around in the 16th century


On to less of a ping-pong discussion:
There has been much discussion of how many seats UKIP will get. Is there a level at which Kippers will feel disappointed?
0? 1? 4? Or will 0 be OK as long as there are lots of 2nd places?

I'm not trying to make a political point, but it may be indicative of what will be the impact post-election if the lower end of UKIP expectation happens

What are they, like a collective hive mind?

Second place is never good I guess, unless they can build on that support in 2020 - unless said support simply melts away over the next five years, time will tell.

I said 8-10 seats at the turn of the year, but their support has dwindled a bit so I may well have been wide of the mark - my theory is that the idea of a Labour/SNP coalition is UKIPs worst enemy and the Tories biggest friend at the moment, as they are the only party who could prevent that.

[Countdown]

JustAnotherLogin said:

You'd have so hated Shakespeare if you'd been around in the 16th century


On to less of a ping-pong discussion:
There has been much discussion of how many seats UKIP will get. Is there a level at which Kippers will feel disappointed?
0? 1? 4? Or will 0 be OK as long as there are lots of 2nd places?

I'm not trying to make a political point, but it may be indicative of what will be the impact post-election if the lower end of UKIP expectation happens

Less than 2 would be a step backwards. And if Farage doesn't get elected that would be a pretty big slap in the face, I think.

[don4l]

JustAnotherLogin said:

You'd have so hated Shakespeare if you'd been around in the 16th century


On to less of a ping-pong discussion:
There has been much discussion of how many seats UKIP will get. Is there a level at which Kippers will feel disappointed?
0? 1? 4? Or will 0 be OK as long as there are lots of 2nd places?

I'm not trying to make a political point, but it may be indicative of what will be the impact post-election if the lower end of UKIP expectation happens

I'll be disappointed if they get less than 10 seats.

I'll be happy if they get 20.


If they get thirty, then I will break out the Glengoyne,

[anonymous-user]

Don, I suspect you will be breaking out the Glengoyne, but it will be to drown your sorrows if those are really your hopes.

We shall see.

[Halb]

The only other decent UKiPs person (in my eyes) is currently on BBC2 on Newsbeat.

I sort of like the idea, but the constant applause following any slightly-over-excited teenager speaking is off-putting and bizarre.

[Zod]

don4l said:

JustAnotherLogin said:

You'd have so hated Shakespeare if you'd been around in the 16th century


On to less of a ping-pong discussion:
There has been much discussion of how many seats UKIP will get. Is there a level at which Kippers will feel disappointed?
0? 1? 4? Or will 0 be OK as long as there are lots of 2nd places?

I'm not trying to make a political point, but it may be indicative of what will be the impact post-election if the lower end of UKIP expectation happens

I'll be disappointed if they get less than 10 seats.

I'll be happy if they get 20.


If they get thirty, then I will break out the Glengoyne,

The whisky will remain corked. You're going to be disappointed.

[xjsdriver]

Countdown said:

Less than 2 would be a step backwards. And if Farage doesn't get elected that would be a pretty big slap in the face, I think.

.....and if Farage doesn't get elected, then I'll laugh like hell!!!!! ;-)

[MGJohn]

steveT350C said:

Guam said:

steveT350C said:

Suzanne Evans taking calls on LBC starting now

Listening to her now, loved the EU wont let you trade with them if you leave caller, being Trumped by the "WTO Rules render that illegal"

She is very much becoming another emerging star of UKIP, along with Steven Wolfe. I have been following her for a while, exchanged a couple of Tweets with her. She knows her stuff and is down to earth and pleasant.

Three UK Independence Party females in the public eye in recent days have been very impressive. Suzanne Evans has demonstrated this time and again. Here I also include the ex-Tory now UKIP candidate Victoria Ayling in the Great Grimsby constituency. Another female with that rare quality of thinking clearly and effectively "on her feet" when the media smoothies come calling with their trick questions. The Torys have lost a good'n there.

[dandarez]

Zod said:

don4l said:

JustAnotherLogin said:

You'd have so hated Shakespeare if you'd been around in the 16th century


On to less of a ping-pong discussion:
There has been much discussion of how many seats UKIP will get. Is there a level at which Kippers will feel disappointed?
0? 1? 4? Or will 0 be OK as long as there are lots of 2nd places?

I'm not trying to make a political point, but it may be indicative of what will be the impact post-election if the lower end of UKIP expectation happens

I'll be disappointed if they get less than 10 seats.

I'll be happy if they get 20.


If they get thirty, then I will break out the Glengoyne,

The whisky will remain corked. You're going to be disappointed.

What, you mean disappointed like Milipeed, CallMeDave and Cleggie?

Or do you really believe on May 8th one of them will be standing on the steps of No. 10?

Regardless of how few or how many seats UKIP get, they will have prevented a majority for any of the other 'same ol same' suckers that you and the rest will be voting for ...again, for more of the same.

[NicD]

JustAnotherLogin said:

You'd have so hated Shakespeare if you'd been around in the 16th century

Letting whimsy take over, its fun to speculate how you would be if transported back in time (I know thats not exactly what you meant).
Generally, much worse off, I think.

[PRTVR]

Farage has just given an interview on BBC breakfast programme, he was very good, as always talking a lot of commonsense, on the subject of the problem in the med, he pointed out that if you do not return people more will come and the death toll will rise.

[uk_vette]

TTwiggy said:

The only way they would know would be if he volunteered the information. They have no access to the PNC.

Do you know that?
Or is that what you believe?

As a point, I also "THINK" that they only have a daily updated list of the most serious criminals.

vette

[uk_vette]

PRTVR said:

Farage has just given an interview on BBC breakfast programme, he was very good, as always talking a lot of commonsense, on the subject of the problem in the med, he pointed out that if you do not return people more will come and the death toll will rise.

I also watched him speak,
Yes he does come across well.
Seems to make reasonable sensible points, which is vastly more appealing than the reds, blues and yellows.

I would like to know more about his immigration policies.

vette

[McWigglebum4th]

xjsdriver said:

.....and if Farage doesn't get elected, then I'll laugh like hell!!!!! ;-)

Yep he is an odious git who blames everything on those to the south

[don4l]

uk_vette said:

I would like to know more about his immigration policies.

vette

You can find out more in UKIP's Manifesto


Here is an excerpt. It all seems quite sensible to me.

TO REFORM OUR IMMIGRATION SYSTEM UKIP WILL:
• Take back control of our borders

• Put a five-year moratorium on immigration for unskilled workers,
which will enable the unemployed already living here to find work and
those already working to see wage growth

• Introduce an Australian-style points based system to manage the
number and skills of people coming into the country, treating all
citizens of the world on a fair and equal basis as a welcoming,
outward-looking country

• Tackle the problem of sham marriages.
These policies are essential if we are to give our country the
breathing space it desperately needs from mass uncontrolled
immigration, create harmonious, integrated communities, and
catch up on building the essential infrastructure needed to
sustain our growing nation