UKIP - The Future - Volume 4
Discussion
So have i he's a great guy with no arrogance at all .
That interview was not an interview, it was the last chance the establishment had to try and discredit Farage before GE.
Disgraceful BBC. No more money from me, ever.
steveT350C said:
johnxjsc1985 said:
Maybe I am wrong but I get the impression I could have a conversation with NF and he wouldn't talk down to me or treat me like an idiot.Now DC and EM I am fairly sure I would end up nutting them in frustration after about 2 mins.
I am lucky enough to have had a chat with NF and he is exactly that. Down to earth, genuinely happy rubbery smiley face with beer in hand, but, really really genuine. That interview was not an interview, it was the last chance the establishment had to try and discredit Farage before GE.
Disgraceful BBC. No more money from me, ever.
Mr GrimNasty said:
One man's caustic rhetoric is another's blatant undeniable common sense truth that has been suppressed from discussion by ideological bigots calling it dangerous, divisive, caustic etc.
what was vile about his words and if there is division its not of his making.The BBC in particular are scared to death of UKIP the only thing I found vile and repulsive is the BBC
TKF said:
Suppressed from discussion? The Green Party (they got an MP in a GE, remember) would dream of half the coverage and air time that UKIP have had since 2010.
They should be very grateful. If they got the same scrutiny as UKIP then they would be destroyed. They are complete nutters, even the monster raving looney party would shy away from their policies.Zod said:
don4l said:
steveT350C said:
Farage on BBC1 for half hour interview starting 19:30, i.e. 16 mins
I notice that they have chosen Evan Davies to interview him.What blithering idiot decided this?
Davies is not going to be able to hide his hostility, and the result will be an increase in public support.
If they had chosen Dimbleby, then he would have made a small effort to appear impartial. I predict that Davies will be unable to hide his hostility.
BBC... Impartial?
the interview with Farage was different in all Davies wanted to do was get through a large list of smears against UKIP and when he did not get the answer he wanted quickly move on to the next one, people who have no liking for Farage could see it, the lenth of time that they both were speaking shows it, it was a disgrace,
I have no problem with politician's getting a grilling, that's part of their job, likewise I have a lot of respect for Andrew Neil who I think does a good job interviewing politicians.
TheExcession said:
FiF said:
Not had chance to look at the details but on first glance this doesn't look good for UKIP
ukip battleground polls
To be honest, I wouldn't worry, I had to read all the way to the end, through 75% this, 20% that, 15% something else yada yada yada till I finally got to the bit that should have been posted at the very topukip battleground polls
ComRes Methodology said:
ComRes interviewed 1,007 adults living in ten key Conservative-held UKIP target seats – South Thanet, Boston and Skegness, Thurrock, Forest of Dean, Great Yarmouth, North Thanet, East Worthing and Shoreham, Sittingbourne and Sheppey, South Basildon and East Thurrock, and Castle Point. Fieldwork took place by telephone between 17th and 19th April 2015. Each constituency is represented in the sample equally, with data weighted to be demographically representative of all adults living in these constituencies. Data were also weighted by past vote recall. ComRes is a member of the British Polling Council and abides by its rules.
When I were a lad we we taught to present the methodology before the results, there's 2 minutes of my life I won't get back, who can I sue?Edited by TheExcession on Wednesday 22 April 20:06
Annecdote alert.
Mrs Digga was talking with one of her run training mates yesterday. Apropos of nothing she announced that both her and her husband were going to vote UKIP because they work in the public sector and see what is going on. That angle is not being taken into account by the mainstream media.
Mrs Digga was talking with one of her run training mates yesterday. Apropos of nothing she announced that both her and her husband were going to vote UKIP because they work in the public sector and see what is going on. That angle is not being taken into account by the mainstream media.
Digga said:
Annecdote alert.
Mrs Digga was talking with one of her run training mates yesterday. Apropos of nothing she announced that both her and her husband were going to vote UKIP because they work in the public sector and see what is going on. That angle is not being taken into account by the mainstream media.
there will be a few surprises in terms of unexpected support for ukip i think. i have no idea about seats, but i think the percentage of the vote will be a fair bit higher than the polls suggest.Mrs Digga was talking with one of her run training mates yesterday. Apropos of nothing she announced that both her and her husband were going to vote UKIP because they work in the public sector and see what is going on. That angle is not being taken into account by the mainstream media.
don4l said:
Halb said:
don4l said:
He is left wing, gay, and a guardian reader. What did you expect?
What has his sexual orientation got to do with it?don4l said:
Halb said:
don4l said:
He is left wing, gay, and a guardian reader. What did you expect?
What has his sexual orientation got to do with it?Explain.
What puzzles me watching media smoothies interviewing folks in the street, must have seen approaching a hundred such now, without exception many appear to be in some sort of denial. Maybe do not understand the appalling negative magnitude of the Nation's current financial status and such things as the Trade Deficit. It's as though such massively negative impacts do not exist, or, if they do, has little effect on them.
A few dips into my Facebook contacts again show these problems are of little concern to many particularly the younger folks. I'm convinced some actually believe those money trees exist!
Not just Public Sector types, many of those express they understand the need for cuts just as long as they do not affect them. Even conservative minded folks who appear unworried just as long as being in the EU means their next new BMW or other European product will not be more expensive. How good is that for our economy. Of course, not just those me, me, me mindset types, I can understand some business folks having concerns should the Nation ever get the chance to vote on In-Out of the EU, it's very unlikely an OUT decision will come about. It's as though many believe the Nation would be incapable of surviving outside the EU. Maybe they're right and we no longer are collectively made of the right stuff. I do not believe that but, that could be the case in reality.
I think social media has and is continuing to have massive influence on how a wide range of folks see or do nit see things.
Even the three main Political Parties do not have these serious aspects high on their list of messages to the electorate.
Whatever the result in two weeks time, I strongly suspect that once again, this Nation will get it wrong. So depressing.
A few dips into my Facebook contacts again show these problems are of little concern to many particularly the younger folks. I'm convinced some actually believe those money trees exist!
Not just Public Sector types, many of those express they understand the need for cuts just as long as they do not affect them. Even conservative minded folks who appear unworried just as long as being in the EU means their next new BMW or other European product will not be more expensive. How good is that for our economy. Of course, not just those me, me, me mindset types, I can understand some business folks having concerns should the Nation ever get the chance to vote on In-Out of the EU, it's very unlikely an OUT decision will come about. It's as though many believe the Nation would be incapable of surviving outside the EU. Maybe they're right and we no longer are collectively made of the right stuff. I do not believe that but, that could be the case in reality.
I think social media has and is continuing to have massive influence on how a wide range of folks see or do nit see things.
Even the three main Political Parties do not have these serious aspects high on their list of messages to the electorate.
Whatever the result in two weeks time, I strongly suspect that once again, this Nation will get it wrong. So depressing.
Timsta said:
Digga said:
FWIW, I think this assumption is not unreasonable and, in the case of gay men or women, I can see UKIP have handled the topic poorly at best and, at times (remember the ridiculous gays cause flooding comment?) extremely badly.
Except that it was a tory MP who said that. Art0ir said:
FredClogs said:
So it's not homophobic to oppose gay marriage?
Explain.
They've said they would support it if religious institutions would not be forced to officiate if they didn't want to. Under the ECHR that could happen, they argue. Explain.
But you already know that.
No religious institution has ever been or ever will be forced to officiate. CoE is specifically exempt from the law. But you already know that.
smn159 said:
All well and fine but he was still a tory when he said it. It just wasn't reported at the time. It's a better headline when he's UKIP.Esseesse said:
FredClogs said:
So it's not homophobic to oppose gay marriage?
Explain.
I think it's perfectly possible, and probably quite common, to oppose gay marriage and not have a problem with gay people.Explain.
I think there is some logical justification in this argument.
Timsta said:
smn159 said:
All well and fine but he was still a tory when he said it. It just wasn't reported at the time. It's a better headline when he's UKIP.Gassing Station | News, Politics & Economics | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff