UKIP - The Future - Volume 4
Discussion
MGJohn said:
One of Longnridge's finest.
With his stance on the EU and BREXIT, would hardly be a BMW or Merc now would it. That would have been beyond terrible ..
Out of interest, where's your'n made?
Have you driven a ZS 180?
I have yeah, they're terri-bad, it was thirsty, crap on the twisties, it wasn't really that fast and the gearbox was crap.With his stance on the EU and BREXIT, would hardly be a BMW or Merc now would it. That would have been beyond terrible ..
Out of interest, where's your'n made?
Have you driven a ZS 180?
My car was made in France I'd imagine, being a Clio Sport 200.
I've my eye on the new Honda Civic Type R though, made in England (Swindon) - I'm just not sure on the looks until I see one in the flesh, and I'm not allowed an Ariel Atom (Somerset) because SWMBO won't let me spend all that money on a second car, apparently a new kitchen is more important
TKF said:
JustAnotherLogin said:
don4l said:
TKF said:
Some people see Farage and UKIP as BNP in blazers. A sort of BNP lite whose core message is fundamentally the same but they're better spoken and have fewer tattoos.
Well, it couldn't be clearer. You either approve of the BNP and UKIP, or you disapprove of tattoos.There is no suggestion that he either approves or abhors the number of tattoos, it is merely an observation (whether trie or not I don't know)
Don hates paedophiles
The vast majority of paedophiles are men
Therefore don hates the vast majority of men
Then, once you've established this "fact" you attack the poster with a strawman constructed entirely with this "evidence". If you're adept at this, as Kippers often are, you can make this drag on for pages. If you repeat the logical fallacy often enough it'll become used by other Kippers and become a established "fact" despite never being said in the first place.
TKF said:
Some people see Farage and UKIP as BNP in blazers. A sort of BNP lite whose core message is fundamentally the same but they're better spoken and have fewer tattoos.
You should apologise for the above offensive comments. You're coming across as a bit of a bigotted ignoramus.UKIP have nothing in common with the BNP.
There is nothing to suggest that people with tattoos are likely to be members of the BNP.
Why do you think that it is acceptable to be offensive to a significant proportion of the British population?
Axionknight said:
MGJohn said:
One of Longnridge's finest.
With his stance on the EU and BREXIT, would hardly be a BMW or Merc now would it. That would have been beyond terrible ..
Out of interest, where's your'n made?
Have you driven a ZS 180?
I have yeah, they're terri-bad, it was thirsty, crap on the twisties, it wasn't really that fast and the gearbox was crap.With his stance on the EU and BREXIT, would hardly be a BMW or Merc now would it. That would have been beyond terrible ..
Out of interest, where's your'n made?
Have you driven a ZS 180?
My car was made in France I'd imagine, being a Clio Sport 200.
I've my eye on the new Honda Civic Type R though, made in England (Swindon) - I'm just not sure on the looks until I see one in the flesh, and I'm not allowed an Ariel Atom (Somerset) because SWMBO won't let me spend all that money on a second car, apparently a new kitchen is more important
Plato J. said:
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The best handling Front Wheel Drive car I've ever driven.
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What does Plato know about handling... Hah!The best handling Front Wheel Drive car I've ever driven.
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I bought a new MG ZS not long afterwards. My findings align more with Plato's than yours. We are obviously poor judges...
If you buy the Civic at least you will play a part in providing much needed employment for the good folks of Wiltshire, unlike your previous choice. Good for you.
I'm still voting UKIP!
johnxjsc1985 said:
steveT350C said:
Lab and Con joining forces against Farage in S Thanet. A real showing of the EUSSR
WTF are they insane or whatdandarez said:
The pic shows one thing...
DESPERATION!
PS
I'm venturing on here less now.
Why?
The anti kipps on here, do they not have any life beyond?
Possibly.
But not life as we know it Jim!
Tattoos and BNP b
ks. What a bunch of saddos.
Hint.
GET A LIFE!
And pointing out where maybe being out of the EU could cost us.DESPERATION!
PS
I'm venturing on here less now.
Why?
The anti kipps on here, do they not have any life beyond?
Possibly.
But not life as we know it Jim!
Tattoos and BNP b
ks. What a bunch of saddos.Hint.
GET A LIFE!
I pointed out that JCB and JLR's workforce in the UK being are probably reliant on the EU market due to a lot of their out of EU sales being manufactured elsewhere-but it's all gone quiet on that?
As I've said before UKIP are a growing political force but they need to do more than just tell everyone that they'll get a free trade deal on a plate without conceding free movement of people in the event of Brexit.
rs1952 said:
You might find that this has got something to do with this bloke - Nick Lowles, dabbles in photography and videos https://twitter.com/lowles_nick/media
They really do like Photoshop over at HnH:
Nope, not hope
rs1952 said:
johnxjsc1985 said:
steveT350C said:
Lab and Con joining forces against Farage in S Thanet. A real showing of the EUSSR
WTF are they insane or whatF
I have deliberately stayed out of this ridiculous debate, but Don, you cannot draw that conclusion from that statement.
There is no suggestion that he either approves or abhors the number of tattoos, it is merely an observation (whether trie or not I don't know)To understand how don and the the others have come to that conclusion you need to climb into the mind of Kipper logic, aka a logical fallacy.
Don hates paedophiles
The vast majority of paedophiles are men
Therefore don hates the vast majority of men
Then, once you've established this "fact" you attack the poster with a strawman constructed entirely with this "evidence". If you're adept at this, as Kippers often are, you can make this drag on for pages. If you repeat the logical fallacy often enough it'll become used by other Kippers and become a established "fact" despite never being said in the first place.
UKIP have nothing in common with the BNP.
There is nothing to suggest that people with tattoos are likely to be members of the BNP.
Why do you think that it is acceptable to be offensive to a significant proportion of the British population?QED
don4l said:
TKF said:
JustAnotherLogin said:
don4l said:
TKF said:
Some people see Farage and UKIP as BNP in blazers. A sort of BNP lite whose core message is fundamentally the same but they're better spoken and have fewer tattoos.
Well, it couldn't be clearer. You either approve of the BNP and UKIP, or you disapprove of tattoos.There is no suggestion that he either approves or abhors the number of tattoos, it is merely an observation (whether trie or not I don't know)
Don hates paedophiles
The vast majority of paedophiles are men
Therefore don hates the vast majority of men
Then, once you've established this "fact" you attack the poster with a strawman constructed entirely with this "evidence". If you're adept at this, as Kippers often are, you can make this drag on for pages. If you repeat the logical fallacy often enough it'll become used by other Kippers and become a established "fact" despite never being said in the first place.
TKF said:
Some people see Farage and UKIP as BNP in blazers. A sort of BNP lite whose core message is fundamentally the same but they're better spoken and have fewer tattoos.
You should apologise for the above offensive comments. You're coming across as a bit of a bigotted ignoramus.UKIP have nothing in common with the BNP.
There is nothing to suggest that people with tattoos are likely to be members of the BNP.
Why do you think that it is acceptable to be offensive to a significant proportion of the British population?
cookie118 said:
And pointing out where maybe being out of the EU could cost us.
I pointed out that JCB and JLR's workforce in the UK being are probably reliant on the EU market due to a lot of their out of EU sales being manufactured elsewhere-but it's all gone quiet on that?
As I've said before UKIP are a growing political force but they need to do more than just tell everyone that they'll get a free trade deal on a plate without conceding free movement of people in the event of Brexit.
It's irrelevant. What is the EU going to do? The UK is it's biggest Export market, bigger than the next two combined. And any sanctions would break WTO rules.I pointed out that JCB and JLR's workforce in the UK being are probably reliant on the EU market due to a lot of their out of EU sales being manufactured elsewhere-but it's all gone quiet on that?
As I've said before UKIP are a growing political force but they need to do more than just tell everyone that they'll get a free trade deal on a plate without conceding free movement of people in the event of Brexit.
The only reason big business likes the EU is that its rules make it harder for small to medium businesses to enter and compete in the market place.
steveT350C said:
Agreed!
I just swerve in, skim through the drivel, post something I hope people find relevent then escape.
Roll on election results!
Pretty much this. The thread noise to content ratio makes it somewhat pointless now until after May 7. Polls are all over the place, don't believe my own calcs anymore. I just swerve in, skim through the drivel, post something I hope people find relevent then escape.
Roll on election results!
rudecherub said:
cookie118 said:
And pointing out where maybe being out of the EU could cost us.
I pointed out that JCB and JLR's workforce in the UK being are probably reliant on the EU market due to a lot of their out of EU sales being manufactured elsewhere-but it's all gone quiet on that?
As I've said before UKIP are a growing political force but they need to do more than just tell everyone that they'll get a free trade deal on a plate without conceding free movement of people in the event of Brexit.
It's irrelevant. What is the EU going to do? The UK is it's biggest Export market, bigger than the next two combined. And any sanctions would break WTO rules.I pointed out that JCB and JLR's workforce in the UK being are probably reliant on the EU market due to a lot of their out of EU sales being manufactured elsewhere-but it's all gone quiet on that?
As I've said before UKIP are a growing political force but they need to do more than just tell everyone that they'll get a free trade deal on a plate without conceding free movement of people in the event of Brexit.
I've constantly been told that UK trade is far too important for the EU to risk it decreasing and hence they'll have to give the UK what it wants, but the EU are surely saying the same thing? If UKIP weren't so immovable on free movement of people I'd have more confidence in them being able to get a free trade deal.
BTW-I'm not talking about sanctions, just the additional taxes etc that would come from not being in the free trade area.
Guam said:
FiF said:
Pretty much this. The thread noise to content ratio makes it somewhat pointless now until after May 7. Polls are all over the place, don't believe my own calcs anymore.
IndeedI don't recall seeing such a spread before
I think a lot has to do with using 2010 weighting rather than the euros but even then they still throw up major outliers
There will be some hard questions to be faced by a number of them after the seventh IMHO
Also have the seven million under threat of failing to register done so and were any proportion of those in the samples?
ROLL ON THE PURPLE REVOLUTION.
rudecherub said:
cookie118 said:
And pointing out where maybe being out of the EU could cost us.
I pointed out that JCB and JLR's workforce in the UK being are probably reliant on the EU market due to a lot of their out of EU sales being manufactured elsewhere-but it's all gone quiet on that?
As I've said before UKIP are a growing political force but they need to do more than just tell everyone that they'll get a free trade deal on a plate without conceding free movement of people in the event of Brexit.
It's irrelevant. What is the EU going to do? The UK is it's biggest Export market, bigger than the next two combined. And any sanctions would break WTO rules.I pointed out that JCB and JLR's workforce in the UK being are probably reliant on the EU market due to a lot of their out of EU sales being manufactured elsewhere-but it's all gone quiet on that?
As I've said before UKIP are a growing political force but they need to do more than just tell everyone that they'll get a free trade deal on a plate without conceding free movement of people in the event of Brexit.
The only reason big business likes the EU is that its rules make it harder for small to medium businesses to enter and compete in the market place.
HSBC et al will be gone when it suits anyway. Japanese Car Marques with production here including Nissan and Honda have warned about moving production out of the UK in the past. It could be a matter of time anyway. Even Dyson moved production outside the UK some time ago although they still employ a good number of folks in their UK R & D facility including a close relative.
Bigger than the next two combined ! The stitch up which is the EU treat us like mugs. We respond accordingly with no signs of change.
Which of all the EU's Nations provides BMW's largest "export" profit by a wide margin in comparison to the rest of the EU? Give you twenty two guesses although only one is needed.
If this Nation no longer possesses the right stuff to not only survive but thrive outside of the EU then Lord Elpus.
Trouble is the BIG OUTFITS are the not inconsiderable financial supporters of a certain Political Organ so such change is unlikely to suit them.
So what is the real answer to solve the increasingly worrying current state of affairs which face this Nation. A nation which looks set for further division and decline in both the immediate and distant future.
Still why should I give a monkey's..
I'm alright Jack ... for now .....
MGJohn said:
What does Plato know about handling... Hah!
I bought a new MG ZS not long afterwards. My findings align more with Plato's than yours. We are obviously poor judges...
If you buy the Civic at least you will play a part in providing much needed employment for the good folks of Wiltshire, unlike your previous choice. Good for you.
I'm still voting UKIP!
Wasn't impressed frankly, maybe it was good at the time but I'm only a whipper snapper and used to the more modern stuff - I didn't even have a driving license when MG shuffled off of their mortal coil! I bought a new MG ZS not long afterwards. My findings align more with Plato's than yours. We are obviously poor judges...
If you buy the Civic at least you will play a part in providing much needed employment for the good folks of Wiltshire, unlike your previous choice. Good for you.
I'm still voting UKIP!
I'm still voting for them too, even if they have a crap MG to tool about in!
Axionknight said:
MGJohn said:
What does Plato know about handling... Hah!
I bought a new MG ZS not long afterwards. My findings align more with Plato's than yours. We are obviously poor judges...
If you buy the Civic at least you will play a part in providing much needed employment for the good folks of Wiltshire, unlike your previous choice. Good for you.
I'm still voting UKIP!
Wasn't impressed frankly, maybe it was good at the time but I'm only a whipper snapper and used to the more modern stuff - I didn't even have a driving license when MG shuffled off of their mortal coil! I bought a new MG ZS not long afterwards. My findings align more with Plato's than yours. We are obviously poor judges...
If you buy the Civic at least you will play a part in providing much needed employment for the good folks of Wiltshire, unlike your previous choice. Good for you.
I'm still voting UKIP!
I'm still voting for them too, even if they have a crap MG to tool about in!
You need to have few miles on your personal clock to understand what that's all about...
Axionknight said:
I still won't like the MG even when I'm an old codger (According to my girlfriend this isn't that far away).
Anyway, enough of that, pass the white wine. Hi hooooo!
let me tell you "if" you attain codger status you will be alarmed at what you find appealing yes even that MG (According to my girlfriend this isn't that far away).Anyway, enough of that, pass the white wine. Hi hooooo!
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