UKIP - The Future - Volume 4
Discussion
TKF said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WxxeE83KQ4I
You know those idiot protesters that harassed and intimidated Farage and his family in the pub recently? Well Britain First decided to show them it wasn't on by, erm, harassing and intimidating them.
What a bunch of tossers on both sides. You know those idiot protesters that harassed and intimidated Farage and his family in the pub recently? Well Britain First decided to show them it wasn't on by, erm, harassing and intimidating them.
Sticking this on the end of their little video is especially unpleasant though
"Left wing traitors be warned. Patriots will not be intimidated any more. If you want to harass patriots, we will fight back with all means at our disposal."
At what point does heckling, or just disagreeing vocally, become harassment for these people? Pretty early on I would think.
ETA: having just read Britain First's "policies" webpage (will now have to scour shamefully the hard drive) I'm now less surprised by that video. Bunch of ultra right wing thuggish thickos.
Edited by anonymous-user on Tuesday 31st March 15:57
Guam said:
Scuffers said:
that went well!
Much as I can see what they were getting at, that really does not help anybody.
This is unfortunately where this sort of stuff leads, down this road lies anarchy and intolerance.Much as I can see what they were getting at, that really does not help anybody.
The Police should jump on both sets and throw the book at them, if not how long before we see Political violence on the scale we see in some countries in Europe?
Zod said:
Guam said:
This is unfortunately where this sort of stuff leads, down this road lies anarchy and intolerance.
The Police should jump on both sets and throw the book at them, if not how long before we see Political violence on the scale we see in some countries in Europe?
Quite right. I'm sure Farage does not want anything to do with these people.The Police should jump on both sets and throw the book at them, if not how long before we see Political violence on the scale we see in some countries in Europe?
EG.
http://www.breitbart.com/london/2015/03/31/antifa-...
Zod said:
Guam said:
Scuffers said:
that went well!
Much as I can see what they were getting at, that really does not help anybody.
This is unfortunately where this sort of stuff leads, down this road lies anarchy and intolerance.Much as I can see what they were getting at, that really does not help anybody.
The Police should jump on both sets and throw the book at them, if not how long before we see Political violence on the scale we see in some countries in Europe?
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2014/10/29/britain...
The same goes for the EDL http://news.stv.tv/north/229874-ukip-leader-nigel-...
These intolerant aggressive individuals and their unpleasant behaviour are not wanted by UKIP. Unfortunately there seems to be no evidence that Cameron/conservatives, Milliband/Labour and Clegg/Libs have any problem with the equally unpleasant behaviour of the groups who try to intimidate/assault Farage and threaten/vandalise UKIP members and property.
So whilst you can be quite sure Farage doesn't support this behaviour, the other main political parties are effectively endorsing it by failure to speak out.
rohrl said:
this kind of thing really p**es me off...this is possibly the most important election for 50 years, yet all we have is trivia and cheap smears.
FFS there is serious s
t going on both at home and overseas, between ISIS and Russia, Iran, the deficit, the EU expansion and militarisation, etc etc.yet the loons are out in force going on about Gays, HIV, Breast feeding, etc etc.
/and breath!/
smn159 said:
It's a sure sign of the level of debate and hatred of what Farage/UKIP stand for... or maybe just a bit of childish fun! Farage says he'll restrict immigration. So does Cameron and Milliband. Only Farage gets called racist for doing so - why? Because we know the others won't actually do anything... same with referendums and renegotiation etc.
This is why if you have to draw a cock with Nigel's head, it is a mighty spunking one - it gets the job done head held high!
If you were to draw Cameron it would be flaccid, weak and useless but easily manipulated by Merkel!
Scuffers said:
rohrl said:
this kind of thing really p**es me off...this is possibly the most important election for 50 years, yet all we have is trivia and cheap smears.
FFS there is serious s
t going on both at home and overseas, between ISIS and Russia, Iran, the deficit, the EU expansion and militarisation, etc etc.yet the loons are out in force going on about Gays, HIV, Breast feeding, etc etc.
/and breath!/
If you're a UKIP supporter the above site is a bit of free publicity for UKIP and you know what they say about publicity.
If you're not a UKIP supporter it's a chance to draw silly pictures, which isn't the worst thing in the world.
brenflys777 said:
Zod said:
Guam said:
Scuffers said:
that went well!
Much as I can see what they were getting at, that really does not help anybody.
This is unfortunately where this sort of stuff leads, down this road lies anarchy and intolerance.Much as I can see what they were getting at, that really does not help anybody.
The Police should jump on both sets and throw the book at them, if not how long before we see Political violence on the scale we see in some countries in Europe?
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2014/10/29/britain...
The same goes for the EDL http://news.stv.tv/north/229874-ukip-leader-nigel-...
These intolerant aggressive individuals and their unpleasant behaviour are not wanted by UKIP. Unfortunately there seems to be no evidence that Cameron/conservatives, Milliband/Labour and Clegg/Libs have any problem with the equally unpleasant behaviour of the groups who try to intimidate/assault Farage and threaten/vandalise UKIP members and property.
So whilst you can be quite sure Farage doesn't support this behaviour, the other main political parties are effectively endorsing it by failure to speak out.
But Brenflys to suggest that the conservatives condone in ay way this sort of crap is to betray a very short memory. They have been the subject of this sort of attack from the extreme left for decades.
I agree that in this case Farage was more vulnerable because he did not have so much security, but it is not or the Govt to allocate such security, but the police. We deliberately in this country try and restrict political interference in policing. And rightly so in my view. Where politics have got involved with policing I am sure you will agree it hasn't generally been for the better.
JustAnotherLogin said:
brenflys777 said:
Zod said:
Guam said:
Scuffers said:
that went well!
Much as I can see what they were getting at, that really does not help anybody.
This is unfortunately where this sort of stuff leads, down this road lies anarchy and intolerance.Much as I can see what they were getting at, that really does not help anybody.
The Police should jump on both sets and throw the book at them, if not how long before we see Political violence on the scale we see in some countries in Europe?
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2014/10/29/britain...
The same goes for the EDL http://news.stv.tv/north/229874-ukip-leader-nigel-...
These intolerant aggressive individuals and their unpleasant behaviour are not wanted by UKIP. Unfortunately there seems to be no evidence that Cameron/conservatives, Milliband/Labour and Clegg/Libs have any problem with the equally unpleasant behaviour of the groups who try to intimidate/assault Farage and threaten/vandalise UKIP members and property.
So whilst you can be quite sure Farage doesn't support this behaviour, the other main political parties are effectively endorsing it by failure to speak out.
But Brenflys to suggest that the conservatives condone in ay way this sort of crap is to betray a very short memory. They have been the subject of this sort of attack from the extreme left for decades.
I agree that in this case Farage was more vulnerable because he did not have so much security, but it is not or the Govt to allocate such security, but the police. We deliberately in this country try and restrict political interference in policing. And rightly so in my view. Where politics have got involved with policing I am sure you will agree it hasn't generally been for the better.
The fact the conservatives have been the target of this sort of intimidation previously, but don't speak out because it's UKIP makes it worse in my opinion.
Politicising the Police to a greater extent seemed to gather pace under Labour and the introduction of PCCs and direct entry higher management officers by the Conservatives has furthered that goal. The Home Secretary calls the shots and I think they are risking creating a martyr out of Farage because of pettiness or hatred.
I've heard it all now.
Watching Sky news after the Chuka Umunna interview, cut to Mr Farage and his crew and their (only policy) immigration banners, cut to interviews with locals and supporter says: 'there's too many immigrants, and there's going to be more and more because they're having children'.
Watching Sky news after the Chuka Umunna interview, cut to Mr Farage and his crew and their (only policy) immigration banners, cut to interviews with locals and supporter says: 'there's too many immigrants, and there's going to be more and more because they're having children'.
Seventy said:
I've heard it all now.
Watching Sky news after the Chuka Umunna interview, cut to Mr Farage and his crew and their (only policy) immigration banners, cut to interviews with locals and supporter says: 'there's too many immigrants, and there's going to be more and more because they're having children'.
what are you on about?Watching Sky news after the Chuka Umunna interview, cut to Mr Farage and his crew and their (only policy) immigration banners, cut to interviews with locals and supporter says: 'there's too many immigrants, and there's going to be more and more because they're having children'.
Axionknight said:
Greg66 said:
That is one hardcore nutjob website right there.
Nothing to say about the allegations made in the article?Who has done, err, nothing.
So yes, whilst online harassment or whatever you want to call it isn't pleasant, so far this appears to be work of a sole nutter with a keyboard and an internet connection, and appears unlikely to escalate further.
And if you decide to pursue a career as a Brietbart (ie hardcore nutjob website) columnist, perhaps you shouldn't be surprised if you attact some attention from the hardcore nutjobs at the other end of the spectrum. One lot is like catnip to the other, and vice versa.
Hardly Crime of the Century though.
NicD said:
Seventy said:
I've heard it all now.
Watching Sky news after the Chuka Umunna interview, cut to Mr Farage and his crew and their (only policy) immigration banners, cut to interviews with locals and supporter says: 'there's too many immigrants, and there's going to be more and more because they're having children'.
what are you on about?Watching Sky news after the Chuka Umunna interview, cut to Mr Farage and his crew and their (only policy) immigration banners, cut to interviews with locals and supporter says: 'there's too many immigrants, and there's going to be more and more because they're having children'.
Greg66 said:
NicD said:
Seventy said:
I've heard it all now.
Watching Sky news after the Chuka Umunna interview, cut to Mr Farage and his crew and their (only policy) immigration banners, cut to interviews with locals and supporter says: 'there's too many immigrants, and there's going to be more and more because they're having children'.
what are you on about?Watching Sky news after the Chuka Umunna interview, cut to Mr Farage and his crew and their (only policy) immigration banners, cut to interviews with locals and supporter says: 'there's too many immigrants, and there's going to be more and more because they're having children'.
NicD said:
what are you on about?
I'm not sure I could be any clearer. I'll spell it out for you, slowly.
She seems to think that children born here to immigrant parents are immigrants. There, wasn't too difficult was it?
Seems to be the typical ill educated response from most prospective UKIP voters.
Seventy said:
NicD said:
what are you on about?
I'm not sure I could be any clearer. I'll spell it out for you, slowly.
She seems to think that children born here to immigrant parents are immigrants. There, wasn't too difficult was it?
Seems to be the typical ill educated response from most prospective UKIP voters.
I'm a good case in point with an immigrant family background and five kids of my own. When my dad arrived the country was short of unskilled Labour, now it appears we have a surplus, but no ability to reduce immigration from within the EU... unless the country becomes unattractive. Can the country cope with 300000 net migration - if so why do Labour tell Northern working class voters they'll reduce it and the conservatives say it will be reduced to the tens of thousands?
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