UKIP - The Future - Volume 4
Discussion
Mojocvh said:
Scuffers said:
RYH64E said:
When I needed emergency hospital treatment in France a few years ago I handed over my EHIC card, but the (very attractive) receptionist shook her head and handed me a credit card machine. I thought that was fair enough as I've never paid taxes in France, if they can do it we should do the same (within the EU).
That's not an atypical response, same deal in Spain etc...If you travel or work abroad, proper insurance is essential.
The problem with the EU is that we are the only ones stupid enough to follow the rules...
And that’s also where I also decided to stop being the typical ex pat...
Only thing I paid was the prescription charge. Though the first point of contact earlier in the day with the equivalent of a GP wasn't particularly satisfactory competence wise, which necessitated the ER visit.
No doubt someone can make a link to something to suggest something else.
NicD said:
Ignorant? You, for sure, and nasty with it.
Due to the complex history of evolving meanings and contexts, there is no clear or agreed upon definition of the Third World.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_World
I don't think he's the ignorant one as he isn't the one throwing homophobic insults around and is also not the one who is unable to write a post without insulting the previous poster, unlike yourself and Scuffers. Due to the complex history of evolving meanings and contexts, there is no clear or agreed upon definition of the Third World.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_World
968 said:
I don't think he's the ignorant one as he isn't the one throwing homophobic insults around and is also not the one who is unable to write a post without insulting the previous poster, unlike yourself and Scuffers.
He incorrectly accused a poster of being ignorant on the point I clearly rebutted, so I turned it around. I 'insult previous posters' when they deserve it - when they post nasty or incorrect observations. No apologies for that.
You seem to have thrown yourself into this category. It brings me no pleasure and I would like to see everyone play nicely without lies and slurs.
What you 'think' has little to do with reality.
NicD said:
He incorrectly accused a poster of being ignorant on the point I clearly rebutted, so I turned it around.
I 'insult previous posters' when they deserve it - when they post nasty or incorrect observations. No apologies for that.
You seem to have thrown yourself into this category. It brings me no pleasure and I would like to see everyone play nicely without lies and slurs.
What you 'think' has little to do with reality.
QED,I 'insult previous posters' when they deserve it - when they post nasty or incorrect observations. No apologies for that.
You seem to have thrown yourself into this category. It brings me no pleasure and I would like to see everyone play nicely without lies and slurs.
What you 'think' has little to do with reality.
Thank you for demonstrating your pathological inability to maintain a discussion without resorting your default position of abusing the poster. It's beautifully illustrated here. Scuffers made an ignorant comment, which is incorrect (most of what he says is incorrect and indeed ignorant).
Thank you for your self-elected position of policing the thread. It's odd how you seem to have been blind to the nasty, homophobic insults that Scuffers has thrown around these threads quite liberally. It's seems rather bizarre and inconsistent with your position of moral superiority.
Oh and thank you for policing me too and putting me in my place that nothing I think is connected to reality. That surely is the most mature way of arguing your point.
We now know UKIP are unlikely to be 'the future'.
It's also pretty likely they'll fade into obscurity until the referendum nears, perhaps with the occasional interruption for internal strife/ members getting into bother.
Hopefully one thing they'll have achieved is engagement with politics of those who had been previously ignorant or indifferent.
It's also pretty likely they'll fade into obscurity until the referendum nears, perhaps with the occasional interruption for internal strife/ members getting into bother.
Hopefully one thing they'll have achieved is engagement with politics of those who had been previously ignorant or indifferent.
968 said:
QED,
Thank you for demonstrating your pathological inability to maintain a discussion without resorting your default position of abusing the poster. It's beautifully illustrated here. Scuffers made an ignorant comment, which is incorrect (most of what he says is incorrect and indeed ignorant).
Thank you for your self-elected position of policing the thread. It's odd how you seem to have been blind to the nasty, homophobic insults that Scuffers has thrown around these threads quite liberally. It's seems rather bizarre and inconsistent with your position of moral superiority.
Oh and thank you for policing me too and putting me in my place that nothing I think is connected to reality. That surely is the most mature way of arguing your point.
You have trouble with comprehension. If you deem that an insult, so be it. I am 'policing' nothing, just righting obvious wrongs.Thank you for demonstrating your pathological inability to maintain a discussion without resorting your default position of abusing the poster. It's beautifully illustrated here. Scuffers made an ignorant comment, which is incorrect (most of what he says is incorrect and indeed ignorant).
Thank you for your self-elected position of policing the thread. It's odd how you seem to have been blind to the nasty, homophobic insults that Scuffers has thrown around these threads quite liberally. It's seems rather bizarre and inconsistent with your position of moral superiority.
Oh and thank you for policing me too and putting me in my place that nothing I think is connected to reality. That surely is the most mature way of arguing your point.
You have shown nothing, except yourself up.
You need to read the written words carefully and assume nothing beyond what is written. If you do this, it may make sense to you.
For example, your laughable statement 'pathological inability ...' This rather nasty insult has a specific meaning (at least within the English language).
Have you supported that with an analysis of my many previous posts?
Like heck you have.
As I said, trouble with comprehension.
Anyway, enough handbags.
Scuffers said:
anonymous said:
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as I said before, real hard numbers here are simply impossible to come by.looking at this another way, since 1995, some 8 million people have migrated into the UK.
Yes, 8 million, do you not think this will have had an effect on *all* public services?
NicD said:
You have trouble with comprehension. If you deem that an insult, so be it. I am 'policing' nothing, just righting obvious wrongs.
You have shown nothing, except yourself up.
Er, not really. Just that you are unable to maintain a discussion without insulting a poster and curiously so far are unable to dare criticise Scuffers, who has been liberally throwing around homophobic insults. For the sake of Scuffers who seems to be short on memory, 'raving poofter' and 'his royal gayness' are embarrassing examples of someone who thinks this sort of language is appropriate when debating a political point. Unfortunately for him and you, it's not 1970, much as you would like it to be so.You have shown nothing, except yourself up.
NicD said:
You need to read the written words carefully and assume nothing beyond what is written. If you do this, it may make sense to you.
Profound stuff. I'm not sure you really apply it to your responses to other posters though, so slightly hypocritical.It might be fair to suggest 968 has a bee in his bonnet. It may be fair to suggest you're being disingenuous if you pretend he has no reason.
Using 'PC gone mad' to hide what appears to be fairly straightforward homophobia will be annoying to some.
If you're really so offended by homosexuality you should have the courage to say so and stand by your opinion, rather than using obvious innuendo and pleading innocence after the event. People would then at least respect your ability to hold and defend an opinion, even if not the opinion itself.
Using 'PC gone mad' to hide what appears to be fairly straightforward homophobia will be annoying to some.
If you're really so offended by homosexuality you should have the courage to say so and stand by your opinion, rather than using obvious innuendo and pleading innocence after the event. People would then at least respect your ability to hold and defend an opinion, even if not the opinion itself.
Scuffers, the only one who makes a badge of it is you. You are the one who introduces it into a conversation. You are the one who attaches importance to it and you are the one who references it as a pejorative.
It might be that you don't see it, which wouldn't be a criticism, however this is how your comments come across to people who have no agenda.
It might be that you don't see it, which wouldn't be a criticism, however this is how your comments come across to people who have no agenda.
allergictocheese said:
Scuffers, the only one who makes a badge of it is you. You are the one who introduces it into a conversation. You are the one who attaches importance to it and you are the one who references it as a pejorative.
It might be that you don't see it, which wouldn't be a criticism, however this is how your comments come across to people who have no agenda.
Are you for real?It might be that you don't see it, which wouldn't be a criticism, however this is how your comments come across to people who have no agenda.
Read back and learn....
It's not me that keeps bringing it up, its your mate 968.
NoNeed said:
Axionknight said:
Certainly not, far too big a swing needed for such a thing to happen, even with the large increase in vote they saw this time around.
If somebody had asked the question in Scotland 5 years ago I bet the answer would be the same.The only thing that really stands in Cameron's favour is the thing that won him the election in the first place - the chaos and division in the Labour party and the disappearance of the Lib Dems.
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