UKIP - The Future - Volume 4
Discussion
Scuffers said:
Are you for real?
So, how would this crime have occurred without open door immigration?
He is asking you a pertinent question, aside from yours and NicDs usual tirade of insults. The amounts of this benefit fraud in particular are but a drop of piss on the ocean compared to the amounts stolen by bankers rigging the forex system, test you don't seem to be bothered about that. So, how would this crime have occurred without open door immigration?
968 said:
He is asking you a pertinent question, aside from yours and NicDs usual tirade of insults. The amounts of this benefit fraud in particular are but a drop of piss on the ocean compared to the amounts stolen by bankers rigging the forex system, test you don't seem to be bothered about that.
Two points..1) two wrongs don't make a right.
2) why do you think i am not disgusted at the antics of some bank traders?
Oh, and I would not call £30+bn pa. A drop of piss.
I suppose another pertinent question would be to ask why those who moan about immigration, which on the whole contributes, pick on that particular part of society, yet ignore the home-grown masses who see benefit scrounging as a way of life?
It's like complaining that it's raining when you're 6 feet underwater.
I suppose there are always those people who complain about everything and anything to mask their own shortcomings.
It's like complaining that it's raining when you're 6 feet underwater.
I suppose there are always those people who complain about everything and anything to mask their own shortcomings.
allergictocheese said:
I suppose another pertinent question would be to ask why those who moan about immigration, which on the whole contributes, pick on that particular part of society, yet ignore the home-grown masses who see benefit scrounging as a way of life?
It's like complaining that it's raining when you're 6 feet underwater.
I suppose there are always those people who complain about everything and anything to mask their own shortcomings.
The answer to that is similar to the NHS issue. We cant run an International Health Service, it would break us very quickly. Equally we cant run an international welfare system for the same reasons. Or to put it another way, our home grown scrotes are bad enough but they are OUR scrotes. We dont want to fund foreign scrotes as well.It's like complaining that it's raining when you're 6 feet underwater.
I suppose there are always those people who complain about everything and anything to mask their own shortcomings.
allergictocheese said:
I suppose another pertinent question would be to ask why those who moan about immigration, which on the whole contributes, pick on that particular part of society, yet ignore the home-grown masses who see benefit scrounging as a way of life?
It's like complaining that it's raining when you're 6 feet underwater.
I suppose there are always those people who complain about everything and anything to mask their own shortcomings.
Unbelievable...It's like complaining that it's raining when you're 6 feet underwater.
I suppose there are always those people who complain about everything and anything to mask their own shortcomings.
The same sad old rhetoric...
Its not about the immigrants themselves, its about the numbers.
allergictocheese said:
Yet the immigrants contribute and the locals don't. That's the rub.
I don't expect the locals on this thread agree. It's clear which side of the equation they form.
Immigrants who earn approx £37K plus contribute, less than that and they are a net drain. Not their fault, its our benefits system that produces that result.I don't expect the locals on this thread agree. It's clear which side of the equation they form.
allergictocheese said:
I suppose another pertinent question would be to ask why those who moan about immigration, which on the whole contributes, pick on that particular part of society, yet ignore the home-grown masses who see benefit scrounging as a way of life?
It's like complaining that it's raining when you're 6 feet underwater.
I suppose there are always those people who complain about everything and anything to mask their own shortcomings.
Stupidity in motion.It's like complaining that it's raining when you're 6 feet underwater.
I suppose there are always those people who complain about everything and anything to mask their own shortcomings.
1. Having an unlimited supply of low wage incomers (whose pay is topped up by tax payer funded in-work benefits ALLOWS home grown scoungers to claim 'there are no jobs'.
2. As Scuffs has said, only higher paid earners in fact make a net contribution.
3. What is this 6 feet under business?
4. What short comings? Come out and say it like a man, not some keyboard blind child. I want to see your achievements.
5. I have a strong dislike for City scammers and voiced that many times during the banking crisis, if you made any effort to check facts. And I know a little about the finance world.
NicD said:
Stupidity in motion.
1. Having an unlimited supply of low wage incomers (whose pay is topped up by tax payer funded in-work benefits ALLOWS home grown scoungers to claim 'there are no jobs'.
2. As Scuffs has said, only higher paid earners in fact make a net contribution.
3. What is this 6 feet under business?
4. What short comings? Come out and say it like a man, not some keyboard blind child. I want to see your achievements.
5. I have a strong dislike for City scammers and voiced that many times during the banking crisis, if you made any effort to check facts. And I know a little about the finance world.
It's a pity, because anything interesting you might have had to say, was lost after the first sentence and your routine abuse of another poster. Why not just respond to him rather than abuse him? Genuine question, does it make you feel better to abuse the other posters who disagree with you?1. Having an unlimited supply of low wage incomers (whose pay is topped up by tax payer funded in-work benefits ALLOWS home grown scoungers to claim 'there are no jobs'.
2. As Scuffs has said, only higher paid earners in fact make a net contribution.
3. What is this 6 feet under business?
4. What short comings? Come out and say it like a man, not some keyboard blind child. I want to see your achievements.
5. I have a strong dislike for City scammers and voiced that many times during the banking crisis, if you made any effort to check facts. And I know a little about the finance world.
968 said:
It's a pity, because anything interesting you might have had to say, was lost after the first sentence and your routine abuse of another poster. Why not just respond to him rather than abuse him? Genuine question, does it make you feel better to abuse the other posters who disagree with you?
You might want to follow your own advice...AJS- said:
I don't buy the zealous enforcement from Whitehall argument. There is plenty of zealous enforcement of rules in France and I dare say other countries too, and they auffer by it. Many there are fed up with it too as evidenced by their rejection of Lisbon and the rise of the deeply anti EU Front Nationale. And France is one country that does relatively well out of EU membership. I'm quite sure the same is true of other countries, and maybe more so.
It's not a "poor Britain" problem, at least from my perspective. It's a simple matter of democratic control of government.
The French enforce zealously when it suits them. Equally, they ignore European legislation whenever it suits them.It's not a "poor Britain" problem, at least from my perspective. It's a simple matter of democratic control of government.
Zod said:
The French enforce zealously when it suits them. Equally, they ignore European legislation whenever it suits them.
Yes, that is my impression also. The French will happily break the rules when in their national interest - look at their deficit and this bit of sabotage:
http://www.nytimes.com/1983/04/29/business/french-...
s2art said:
allergictocheese said:
Yet the immigrants contribute and the locals don't. That's the rub.
I don't expect the locals on this thread agree. It's clear which side of the equation they form.
Immigrants who earn approx £37K plus contribute, less than that and they are a net drain. Not their fault, its our benefits system that produces that result.I don't expect the locals on this thread agree. It's clear which side of the equation they form.
I also employ 7 people. Do I contribute?
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