UKIP - The Future - Volume 4

[Mojocvh]

dirk01 said:

Mojocvh said:

"I can't be bothered"

Then why continue to obscurate the thread with your "offerings" ?

I was busy, but still took the trouble to write my post in English, rather than throw in a random Latin word in the wrong case. So what's your excuse for writing gibberish and not adding to the thread in any constructive way?

That's good coming from you pal!

[don4l]

Disastrous said:

don4l said:

Disastrous said:

Disastrous said:

don4l said:

Do you think that Connie St Louis should be praised, or punished, for her expose of Sir Tim Hunt's recent comments?

Strange question. I don't think she should be praised or punished. She sounds like an awful pain in the arse to be frank. I don't approve of what she did and haven't got much time for those who are offended by everything, but I don't think she should be punished. I think she should be ignored.

Why do you ask?

Was there a point to asking this, since I had the decency to answer, don4l?

Also, I notice Scuffers completely ignored me pointing out very clearly the question he had missed from the other poster earlier after insulting me and claiming there was no question.

Sigh. You guys.

I don't what you mean by the "sigh" comment.

You sound like you have a sense of moral superiority. I'm sure you don't, but perhaps you should consider that phrases like "Sigh. you guys." won't help to convince your audience.

Anyway, enough of the helpful advice.

I fully admit that you had the decency to answer, and I should have kept an eye on this thread.

The truth is that I have decided to buy a barbecue, and I have spent the last few days in the "Food, Drink and Restaurants" sub-forum. The main BBQ thread is 105 pages long! There is some truly wonderful stuff in that thread.

Anyway, I've just re-read your reply to my previous post, and I don't understand why you expected a response from me. You didn't actually ask a question. We take different views about her behaviour. You, of course, are fully entitled to your views.

I see her as someone who has lied on her CV. Her CV page on the City University web site has been removed, and there is a message there which says "This page is in the process of being updated." Oooops!

She has destroyed the career of a man who encouraged women in science.

You will, of course, disagree with me. That actually doesn't matter, though, does it?

Sorry for taking so long to respond. I wasn't deliberately ignoring you.

Thanks for replying. I've bolded the question I asked. I don't really mind what people's views on the Tim Hunt situation are, as I don't have strong feelings about it. I was just curious as to why you asked and what the relevance was.

Also, my 'sigh. You guys' was intended to support my earlier point that it's very difficult to debate/discuss when you respond to a point and it gets ignored (I appreciate you replied but Scuffers came back with a 'what have I ignored??' and hasn't responded since I pointed him to it) and this makes it much easier to simply snipe or attempt to 'score points'.

So my sigh was one of frustration, more than superiority.

I don't remember why I asked the question. I suspect that I felt that your posts are a little too politically correct for my taste.

Tim Hunt is a great scientist who has earned a Nobel Prize. Connie St Louis appears to be a lying man hater. She destroyed his career by selectively quoting him.

Some "politically correct" lefties are still defending her.

I note from one of your answers that you are not defending her.

[don4l]

Strawman said:

4v6 said:

You suggest that because we wouldnt be attached politically and fiscally to the eu that we couldnt have any co operation....which is just plain idiotic.

If the UK leaves the EU would it be a) more connected to the rest of the EU or b) less connected.

If the UK were to leave the EU, would it be a) more connected to the global economy or b) less connected?

Australia has recently signed free trade agreements with China, India and Singapore.

The UK is not at liberty to sign such deals while we are in the EU.

If we leave the EU we would be free to trade with the most vibrant economies on Earth. Instead, the bedwetters amongst us would prefer that we remain shackled to the only economic bloc that is stagnating.

The EU's output has been falling, compared to the rest of the world. We have shackled ourselves to a declining economy. This is utter madness.

[Strawman]

It's taken you a week to some back with that lame response Don 1941, I'm more interested why an adult addressing other adults consistently resorts to pejorative terms like bedwetter to describe people with opposing views, it is not normal, in fact you are the only person I can recall using that term on a forum ever. I wouldn't like to be your analyst and I think you desperately need counselling therapy.

[Mr_B]

Strawman said:

It's taken you a week to some back with that lame response Don 1941, I'm more interested why an adult addressing other adults consistently resorts to pejorative terms like bedwetter to describe people with opposing views, it is not normal, in fact you are the only person I can recall using that term on a forum ever. I wouldn't like to be your analyst and I think you desperately need counselling therapy.

I'm never sure on PH these days, but is this post for real or some super irony laden joke that gets parrot pictures posted

[Einion Yrth]

dirk01 said:

Mojocvh said:

"I can't be bothered"

Then why continue to obscurate the thread with your "offerings" ?

I was busy, but still took the trouble to write my post in English, rather than throw in a random Latin word in the wrong case. So what's your excuse for writing gibberish and not adding to the thread in any constructive way?

"obscurate" is very obviously the verb from which the noun "obscuration" stems; it's a real shame, and something of a surprise, that it has not previously been used. I shall make it my life's work to end this unfortunate oversight.

[dirk01]

don4l said:

The EU's output has been falling, compared to the rest of the world. We have shackled ourselves to a declining economy. This is utter madness.

I don't suppose you ever watch something like the Tour De France what with it being a bit French. But if you did I imagine you would sit there screaming at Wiggo or Frome

"don't shackle yourself to those in the lead group. All this drafting is rubbish because you are stronger so they need you more than you need them. Instead you should be looking at the chinese rider 80 places behind you because he is going faster than everyone else [because he is still going down the hill the lead group got off ages ago]"

[Einion Yrth]

dirk01 said:

don4l said:

The EU's output has been falling, compared to the rest of the world. We have shackled ourselves to a declining economy. This is utter madness.

I don't suppose you ever watch something like the Tour De France what with it being a bit French. But if you did I imagine you would sit there screaming at Wiggo or Frome

"don't shackle yourself to those in the lead group. All this drafting is rubbish because you are stronger so they need you more than you need them. Instead you should be looking at the chinese rider 80 places behind you because he is going faster than everyone else [because he is still going down the hill the lead group got off ages ago]"

Seek professional help. You need it.

[Strawman]

Mr_B said:

I'm never sure on PH these days, but is this post for real or some super irony laden joke that gets parrot pictures posted

Careful now Don will be calling you a bedwetter in a minute, or a teacher's pet or something equally archaic and weird dredged from the depths of his psyche.

[dirk01]

Einion Yrth said:

Seek professional help. You need it.

Judging by your previous post the first help you need is a dictionary. It is quite clear where the made up word came from. But the correct case from that root for the verb already exists: "to obscure".

Though if you couldn't understand my analogy then I think you will need a more complete overhaul of your English skills

[Einion Yrth]

dirk01 said:

Einion Yrth said:

Seek professional help. You need it.

Judging by your previous post the first help you need is a dictionary. It is quite clear where the made up word came from. But the correct case from that root for the verb already exists: "to obscure".

Though if you couldn't understand my analogy then I think you will need a more complete overhaul of your English skills

Seek a sense of humour, you need one.

[dirk01]

Has Don got his quotes awry or did he really mean to say:

don4l said:

I see that as typical of the myopic arrogance of a kipper.

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I see he has deleted the post altogether. Probably wise

Edited by dirk01 on Friday 3rd July 22:14

[dirk01]

Einion Yrth said:

Seek a sense of humour, you need one.

Ah, you think

Einion Yrth said:

Seek professional help. You need it.

Is sufficiently witty to deserve to be called humour?

[don4l]

Strawman said:

don4l said:

Why would you expect me to explain why UKIP were excluded? I am surprised that they were excluded, and I don't understand the decision.

Well there it is all laid out for you, in the independent article I posted, did you bother to read it?

No. I don't read the Independent.

Strawman said:

don4l said:

Also, I didn't state "that they took part anyway". I don't know if they did, or didn't. Please don't put words into my mouth.

The article clearly states they did, are you saying they didn't?

Read what I wrote. I think that it was fairly unambiguous.

Strawman said:

don4l said:

You wonder why I asked if you were homophobic.

The answer is really quite simple. You advocate a system which would reduce the number of demonstrators by at least 12%. Surely, if you weren't a bit homophobic, then you would want to encourage as many people as possible to turn out.

So you are saying the people who organised the LGBTplus Pride rally are homophobic, I had nothing to do with banning UKIP supporters, that was entirely their decision, but you know better than them, I see that as typical of the myopic arrogance of a kipper.

Please read what I actually wrote.

Strawman said:

don4l said:

You seem to think that it is more important for UKIP to be silenced, than for people who detest homophobia to have their voice heard.

When have I advocated UKIP be silenced, I think it better that all kippers are given free reign to spout their hatred and bile, the more they do the fewer and fewer people support their cause.

Nobody should be allowed to spread hatred or bile. If you can give me a single example of a UKIP member spreading either hatred or bile, then I will cancel my membership.

Unlike the other parties, UKIP immediately expels anyone who displays the slightest signs of bigotry.

[don4l]

dirk01 said:

Has Don got his quotes awry or did he really mean to say:

don4l said:

I see that as typical of the myopic arrogance of a kipper.

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I see he has deleted the post altogether. Probably wise

Edited by dirk01 on Friday 3rd July 22:14

There were a couple of typos.

It's back now.

Why did you have to edit your post?

[Mr_B]

Strawman said:

Mr_B said:

I'm never sure on PH these days, but is this post for real or some super irony laden joke that gets parrot pictures posted

Careful now Don will be calling you a bedwetter in a minute, or a teacher's pet or something equally archaic and weird dredged from the depths of his psyche.

So you complain about childish rubbish posted towards you and promptly write total crap of your own ? Why don't you either ignore it if that's your view and say so once, free from doing so in the exact way you complain of ?

[Strawman]

don4l said:

Nobody should be allowed to spread hatred or bile. If you can give me a single example of a UKIP member spreading either hatred or bile, then I will cancel my membership.

Farage on too many occasions to mention, the thin skinned snarling village idiot. He doesn't want Romanians living next to him, he doesn't like hearing foreign accents on the train. Is he going to get expelled soon?

don4l said:

Unlike the other parties, UKIP immediately expels anyone who displays the slightest signs of bigotry.

Ridiculous statement, can you back that up with evidence of the terrible bigotry encouraged in the other main parties?

[Strawman]

don4l said:

Strawman said:

don4l said:

Why would you expect me to explain why UKIP were excluded? I am surprised that they were excluded, and I don't understand the decision.

Well there it is all laid out for you, in the independent article I posted, did you bother to read it?

No. I don't read the Independent.

That's the equivalent of a child sticking their fingers in their ears and going "LaLaLa I'm not listening", to be expected from your previous postings.

[AW111]

Strawman said:

That's the equivalent of a child sticking their fingers in their ears and going "LaLaLa I'm not listening", to be expected from your previous postings.

No, it it a sensible policy designed to avoid infection from those nasty lefty ideas.

[NicD]

AW111 said:

No, it it a sensible policy designed to avoid infection from those nasty lefty ideas.

I read both the Indie and the Guardian online and sadly, it just reinforces this opinion. What a bunch of tossers they allow to propagate narrow opinions as if facts.