UKIP - The Future - Volume 4

[968]

don4l said:

Nobody should be allowed to spread hatred or bile. If you can give me a single example of a UKIP member spreading either hatred or bile, then I will cancel my membership.

Unlike the other parties, UKIP immediately expels anyone who displays the slightest signs of bigotry.

Is this a joke?

Try googling UKIP racist comments and you'll come up with a few thousand pages and numerous examples of candidates being caught making disgustingly bigoted comments.

This summarises the connections between UKIP and certain organisations filled with hateful bigots.

[jogon]

Funny how while Labour are still debating who might lead the shambles, Lib Dems haven't even started and the Tory's are trying their best to mask over the ever growing cracks as we approach the EU referendum it is still the Kippers that dominate the politics on this forum and long shall it continue.

[NicD]

It must touch something in the obsessive mind set, must put down these 'nasty' UKIP sympathisers wherever they pop up.
Its completely weird.

[wc98]

968 said:

don4l said:

Nobody should be allowed to spread hatred or bile. If you can give me a single example of a UKIP member spreading either hatred or bile, then I will cancel my membership.

Unlike the other parties, UKIP immediately expels anyone who displays the slightest signs of bigotry.

Is this a joke?

Try googling UKIP racist comments and you'll come up with a few thousand pages and numerous examples of candidates being caught making disgustingly bigoted comments.

This summarises the connections between UKIP and certain organisations filled with hateful bigots.

in this instance i can only assume you have selective reading syndrome. or was failing to read the last line of dons last sentence ? for all their faults ,failing to chuck out bigots is not one of them.

[968]

wc98 said:

in this instance i can only assume you have selective reading syndrome. or was failing to read the last line of dons last sentence ? for all their faults ,failing to chuck out bigots is not one of them.

No I can read quite well actually and even understand complicated words, like sagacity for instance. However UKIP has an amazing ability to choose totally unsuitable candidates who go on to make disgustingly bigoted and racist comments and are then expelled after the party is caught out. As the above poster has commented, they have plenty of practice in expelling appallingly moronic candidates.

[968]

drivetrain said:

Your bumchums on CTF are missing you.

Go back over there and give them all a big kiss instead of trolling here.

What an intelligent, articulate response. Very mature line of argument or perhaps you have none or no ability to debate? You do yourself such huge credit.

Edited by 968 on Saturday 4th July 20:31

[eharding]

968 said:

drivetrain said:

Your bumchums on CTF are missing you.

Go back over there and give them all a big kiss instead of trolling here.

What an intelligent, articulate response. Very mature line of argument or perhaps you have none of no ability to debate? You do yourself such huge credit.

What's more worrying is the failure of the mainstream PH UKIP community to condemn the behaviour of 'kipper fundamentalists like drivetrain here.

[968]

drivetrain said:

Rapid response from you there at 20.10 (on CTF)

Why not go and post there too, given you're part of both forums?

Instead of replying to my response to wc98 you continue this rather bizarre trolling of your own.

[dirk01]

drivetrain said:

by Strawman @ Sat Jul 04, 2015 8:18 pm
Will Don41 reprimand him for such a homophobic statement?

Edited by drivetrain on Saturday 4th July 21:15

Perhaps because I have joined more recently than everyone else my memory is fresher about the site rules, but I would have thought drivetrain that you should be more concerned about what the moderators think than don41. After all you seem to have broken the first the 2nd rule (offensive and sexist) and possibly the first (amateur sleuthing). I am not sure of what constitutes "amateur sleuthing" but from the context of the rest of the rule it would appear that posting information gleaned from other websites about a poster on here might well do so.

[WinstonWolf]

drivetrain said:

eharding said:

What's more worrying is the failure of the mainstream PH UKIP community to condemn the behaviour of 'kipper fundamentalists like drivetrain here.

For your information, I'm not a 'kipper.

My comment was directed at 968, a troll from the chew the fat forum who, along with many other posters there, only come on PH to troll and stir up whatever st they can.

Posters on that forum openly admit to coming on PH only to troll.

A comprehensive list is available on request.

Interesting...

[eharding]

drivetrain said:

For your information, I'm not a 'kipper.

If it walks like a 'kipper, talks like a 'kipper, and smells like a 'kipper...then even if it swears blind it isn't, it's a sodding 'kipper

Who are you going to vote for in 2015

drivetrain said:

I've always been a Tory voter but this coming election My vote will go to UKIP.

The PH exit poll

drivetrain said:

UKIP here.

Farage stays on as UKIP leader

drivetrain said:

Ah, the toryboys are whingeing because a determined and competent politician is staying in the game and is the most likely to put the boot into Cameron when he tries to renege on the EU referendum.

For someone who goes to the lengths of stalking folk across other forums, you'll appreciate the sweet irony of being caught out as a liar on home turf, with a 30 second Google.

[Strawman]

drivetrain said:

My apologies to all for taking the thread off-topic, however I believe that there were certain things which needed to be aired.

Apart from all these 'things' were aired by FiF several pages ago

drivetrain said:

MyI'm done.

Good thanks for your worthless contribution

[dirk01]

So which party does now most closely represent your political beliefs drivetrain?

[eharding]

drivetrain said:

I now wouldn't touch UKIP with a bargepole, I used to believe that they were a serious political alternative but now realise that they are nothing but tory-lite, a mere shadow of their promised incarnation, a team of unconvincing chancers.

We'll brush over the breath-takingly shallow perspective that would view UKIP as a serious political alternative, and cut straight to the chase - after undergoing your recent epiphany with the realisation that UKIP are, as you put it, 'a team of unconvincing chancers' (I would challenge the 'team' part), can we ask what political grouping now attracts your allegiance during this phase of your personal doctrinal journey? (if such a manifest abomination has a name, that is).

Edited: tldr; what that dirk bloke said.

[WinstonWolf]

dirk01 said:

drivetrain said:

by Strawman @ Sat Jul 04, 2015 8:18 pm
Will Don41 reprimand him for such a homophobic statement?

Edited by drivetrain on Saturday 4th July 21:15

Perhaps because I have joined more recently than everyone else my memory is fresher about the site rules, but I would have thought drivetrain that you should be more concerned about what the moderators think than don41. After all you seem to have broken the first the 2nd rule (offensive and sexist) and possibly the first (amateur sleuthing). I am not sure of what constitutes "amateur sleuthing" but from the context of the rest of the rule it would appear that posting information gleaned from other websites about a poster on here might well do so.

It's not sluething, it's pointing out orchestrated trolling. They might well be interested, are you going to press the abuse button and set the ball rolling?

I also wonder what the mods think about people who've previously been banned returning under a new guise

[dirk01]

WinstonWolf said:

I also wonder what the mods think about people who've previously been banned returning under a new guise

If that's an allegation presumably you have some evidence to support it?

[eharding]

WinstonWolf said:

It's not sluething, it's pointing out orchestrated trolling.

......and you're telling us there isn't some sweaty, smoke-filled password-protected little forum hosted somewhere, where a selection of the more prolific PH 'kipperati hang out in private and swap tips on how best to bang the UKIP drum?

[WinstonWolf]

dirk01 said:

WinstonWolf said:

I also wonder what the mods think about people who've previously been banned returning under a new guise

If that's an allegation presumably you have some evidence to support it?

I do but I'm not telling you what it is just yet. Give it time...

[eharding]

WinstonWolf said:

dirk01 said:

WinstonWolf said:

I also wonder what the mods think about people who've previously been banned returning under a new guise

If that's an allegation presumably you have some evidence to support it?

I do but I'm not telling you what it is just yet. Give it time...

For the uninitiated, watching WinstonWolf trying on his menacing PH sleuth role is much like watching Elmer Fudd trying to outwit Bugs Bunny - a hilarious exercise in slapstick futility - although, as you may have gathered, Winston lacks Fudd's endearing charm.

[Strawman]

WinstonWolf said:

I also wonder what the mods think about people who've previously been banned returning under a new guise

What do you think drivetrain's previous PH name was, I see he's only been on PH in current guise 20 months.