UKIP - The Future - Volume 4
Discussion
968 said:
Mojocvh said:
Just like that....
Yes. I'm not sure why it's so hard for you to grasp the concept.You're a bit like looking through glass; there's something there, but at the end of the day, it's disappointingly inconsequential.
Just a short while ago I was: drunk, drunken, utterly bizarre, snide, incoherent.
Along with: he's drinking tonight: incoherent b
hing: and "because I'm conversing with a barely conversant person who's seemingly had too much to drink" ??? bit of a common trend beginning here disagree with you and your pissed, is that right?Add in the old
"it'll be interesting to see if the mods take any action over your abusive post." number and it all becomes clear[er]
Personally, I really don't give a toss about what you do.
But your pathetic condescension, really?
Now about the UKIP.....
Edited by Mojocvh on Monday 31st August 23:59
Mojocvh said:
It's not difficult at all.
You're a bit like looking through glass; there's something there, but at the end of the day, it's disappointingly inconsequential.
Oh dear my feelings are so terribly hurt by that comment. Im so inconsequential that you've expended all that effort this evening trying to discredit me and ending up with a 12 egg omelette all over your face. My inconsequentiality must make that all the more galling for you to accept. You're a bit like looking through glass; there's something there, but at the end of the day, it's disappointingly inconsequential.
968 said:
Oh my job planning diary is very helpful because it demonstrates to the trust at my appraisal and job planning meetings what additional activity I provide the NHS for no pay which equates to an average of 12 extra hours a week reporting scans, and carrying out diabetic screening work. If you need more details feel free to ask.
OT but how concerned should I be as a T1 diabetic of 25 years, age 36, with mild retinopathy in both eyes (1 maculopathic) of needing laser surgery? Is it a given that I'll need it at some point in my life? I have my screening at QA as well so it's possible we may have crossed paths.968 said:
Have you been reading the thread? Let me recap for you. Brenflys equated the funding of the BBC with drug companies paying NHS consultants to influence their prescribing decisions, though the article relates to pharmacists and managers because consultants and GPs are required to declare all COIs. Hence the discussion. Am I allowed to discuss such an issue, since I have some insight into it, or do I need to seek your permission? Might I ask why you put the word consultant in speech marks? Are you disputing my occupation? You've already made some snide remark about my working patterns, and if it pleases you, I can tell you precisely what I do each week, since I keep a job planning diary.
I don't want to get into a personal attack but I think you've misrepresented my contribution. If you look back and quote my initial mention of the NHS I think this would be clearer.I'm surprised that you are so defensive about NHS malpractice or undue influence from drugs companies, but dismiss any criticism of the BBC accepting EU funding whilst they have a charter responsibility to remaining impartial. You've said it's not an issue because it amounts to a small percentage of funding, so what percentage of funding would it have to be of the BBC or NHS budget before we should be concerned about impartiality being breached?
Mores to the point, why do the EU sponsor anything through their programme if they get nothing in return? How wasteful would that be. The BBC aired a programme sponsored by the EU about a time traveller coming back to see how disastrous leaving the EU was! It should be a big deal - BBCnews and documentaries are supposed to be impartial. It's not paranoia, it's a clear conflict of interest.
TankRizzo said:
OT but how concerned should I be as a T1 diabetic of 25 years, age 36, with mild retinopathy in both eyes (1 maculopathic) of needing laser surgery? Is it a given that I'll need it at some point in my life? I have my screening at QA as well so it's possible we may have crossed paths.
It is OT but PM me and I'll discuss in more detail. The bottom line is you're a young man with many years left ahead of you. The damages caused to your circulation by diabetes will be cumulative unless you get your HbA1c tightly controlled along with your blood pressure and cholesterol. Our treatments for diabetic eye disease are really to prevent further damage or stabilise. The best thing would be not to need any at all!! I'm a bit further east from where you are!brenflys777 said:
I don't want to get into a personal attack but I think you've misrepresented my contribution. If you look back and quote my initial mention of the NHS I think this would be clearer.
I'm surprised that you are so defensive about NHS malpractice or undue influence from drugs companies, but dismiss any criticism of the BBC accepting EU funding whilst they have a charter responsibility to remaining impartial. You've said it's not an issue because it amounts to a small percentage of funding, so what percentage of funding would it have to be of the BBC or NHS budget before we should be concerned about impartiality being breached?
Mores to the point, why do the EU sponsor anything through their programme if they get nothing in return? How wasteful would that be. The BBC aired a programme sponsored by the EU about a time traveller coming back to see how disastrous leaving the EU was! It should be a big deal - BBCnews and documentaries are supposed to be impartial. It's not paranoia, it's a clear conflict of interest.
If I misunderstood your meaning I apologise however I still think you're overstating the problem. The level of funding provided by the EU is minuscule. The EU sponsor arts and culture to promote European arts and culture surely, and export it to the world?I'm surprised that you are so defensive about NHS malpractice or undue influence from drugs companies, but dismiss any criticism of the BBC accepting EU funding whilst they have a charter responsibility to remaining impartial. You've said it's not an issue because it amounts to a small percentage of funding, so what percentage of funding would it have to be of the BBC or NHS budget before we should be concerned about impartiality being breached?
Mores to the point, why do the EU sponsor anything through their programme if they get nothing in return? How wasteful would that be. The BBC aired a programme sponsored by the EU about a time traveller coming back to see how disastrous leaving the EU was! It should be a big deal - BBCnews and documentaries are supposed to be impartial. It's not paranoia, it's a clear conflict of interest.
968 said:
It is OT but PM me and I'll discuss in more detail. The bottom line is you're a young man with many years left ahead of you. The damages caused to your circulation by diabetes will be cumulative unless you get your HbA1c tightly controlled along with your blood pressure and cholesterol. Our treatments for diabetic eye disease are really to prevent further damage or stabilise. The best thing would be not to need any at all!! I'm a bit further east from where you are!
Thanks mate. I'll PM you for a bit more info.Strawman said:
He is what he says, why do you have trouble accepting that?
I say I'm a pilot. I really am... but just because I say so doesn't make it so. The BBC says they're impartial about the EU...I know avgeeks and aircraft spotters who know enough about my profession to portray themselves as pilots and convincingly so.
If you believe everyone is who they say they are on the internet it's no wonder you're not sceptical about the EU! I should add I'm not questioning what 968 does, but I think it's sensible to remain sceptical until you see the evidence - just like Cameron's renegotiation or his reduction to net migration of tens of thousands...
Edited by brenflys777 on Tuesday 1st September 00:10
brenflys777 said:
I say I'm a pilot. I really am... but just because I say so doesn't make it so. The BBC says they're impartial about the EU...
I know avgeeks and aircraft spotters who know enough about my profession to portray themselves as pilots and convincingly so.
If you believe everyone is who they say they are on the internet it's no wonder you're not sceptical about the EU! I should add I'm not questioning what 968 does, but I think it's sensible to remain sceptical until you see the evidence - just like Cameron's renegotiation or his reduction to net migration of tens of thousands...
If you require proof pm me. But you could ask a number of PHers who've met me and they'll tell you. I know avgeeks and aircraft spotters who know enough about my profession to portray themselves as pilots and convincingly so.
If you believe everyone is who they say they are on the internet it's no wonder you're not sceptical about the EU! I should add I'm not questioning what 968 does, but I think it's sensible to remain sceptical until you see the evidence - just like Cameron's renegotiation or his reduction to net migration of tens of thousands...
Edited by brenflys777 on Tuesday 1st September 00:10
Edited by 968 on Tuesday 1st September 00:21
Mojocvh said:
Binned.
If someone want to "consult" on PH then that’s their doing..
Shame you didn't keep it. You could've learned something about diabetic retinopathy. Again I'm so inconsequential that you seem to be fixated on me. I guess I should be flattered.If someone want to "consult" on PH then that’s their doing..
Edited by Mojocvh on Tuesday 1st September 00:17
Edited by Mojocvh on Tuesday 1st September 00:18
Mojocvh said:
I'm still awaiting your terrifying threat though. Doesn't seem to be happening.
968 said:
Mojocvh said:
I'm still awaiting your terrifying threat though. Doesn't seem to be happening.
Sorry, I digress, did you say you were a consultant of what? gynaecology ??
Mojocvh said:
Funny I've just found the same info from google...
Sorry, I digress, did you say you were a consultant of what? gynaecology ??
Yes you will find the same thing from Google because it's the correct piece of information. Funny that. For your information and just to continue to embarrass yourself, I'm a consultant ophthalmologist with a sub speciality interest in medical retina and cataract surgery. My specific disease expertise is in age related macular degeneration and diabetic eye disease along with vascular diseases of the retina and inflammatory eye disease. I'm off to bed now as have clinic all day tomorrow so will be very busy being inconsequential, good night, and lay off the sauce as you'll have a very sore head at this rate.Sorry, I digress, did you say you were a consultant of what? gynaecology ??
brenflys777 said:
968 said:
If you require proof pm me.
I don't need proof from you that I'm a pilot. I have the big watch, Ray Bans and I know every line from TopGun. 
If only the qualifications of some of those employed within the NHS folks have entrusted their well-being too had such kosher documentation and credentials.
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I've said before that I think UKIPs future is dependent on others at the moment as much as themselves. Cameron's renegotiation, the new Labour leader, what the EU does next etc
The MP I'd hoped would become Labour leader - Dan Jarvis - has written a report about how to regain Labour support that went to UKIP and how it was a mistake to assume UKIP would hurt the Tories more...
Jarvis at least isn't prepared to dismiss UKIP as a spent force:
http://m.huffpost.com/uk/entry/8067220
The MP I'd hoped would become Labour leader - Dan Jarvis - has written a report about how to regain Labour support that went to UKIP and how it was a mistake to assume UKIP would hurt the Tories more...
Jarvis at least isn't prepared to dismiss UKIP as a spent force:
http://m.huffpost.com/uk/entry/8067220
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