UKIP - The Future - Volume 4
Discussion
AW111 said:
don4l said:
Well' it's clear that Hodges is a snivelling weaselly coward. He clearly didn't streak. He is wearing boxer shorts.
Yet another prime example of a lying leftie.
I'm very disappointed that Guido has let him off the hook.
As has been noted, he didn't wear the mask, and he didn't sing "Land of Hope and Glory".
Why wouldn't he sing Land of H and G? It is a great tune.
It's not as if he promised to resign Yet another prime example of a lying leftie.
I'm very disappointed that Guido has let him off the hook.
As has been noted, he didn't wear the mask, and he didn't sing "Land of Hope and Glory".
Why wouldn't he sing Land of H and G? It is a great tune.
rs1952 said:
You appear to be still under your naive impression that everybody who doesn't agree with your views is a "leftie" (whatever that means). Pray tell us all, what does "leftie" mean in your vocabulary?
A "leftie" is anyone who takes offence when they see the word "leftie".There are two main types of leftie.
The first is the type who thinks that he has a right to live off the fruits of other peoples efforts.
The second is the type who wants to climb to power on the votes of the first group.
Which group do you fit into?
don4l said:
rs1952 said:
You appear to be still under your naive impression that everybody who doesn't agree with your views is a "leftie" (whatever that means). Pray tell us all, what does "leftie" mean in your vocabulary?
A "leftie" is anyone who takes offence when they see the word "leftie".There are two main types of leftie.
The first is the type who thinks that he has a right to live off the fruits of other peoples efforts.
The second is the type who wants to climb to power on the votes of the first group.
Which group do you fit into?
All clear now. I don't fit into any of your goups. So I must be a rightie. Or a groupie. Oh wait...
wolves_wanderer said:
And that folks is as simple as Donal's world is. Us and lefties, black and white, no shades of grey or nuance. Hodges is a lying leftie for not taking his pants off, whereas Farage was just responding to public demand 
by unresigning.
I can't win, can I? by unresigning. I give a crystal clear answer, and I still get abuse!
How would you define "leftie"?
Disastrous said:
And that still doesn't tell you anything, after all this time?
God loves a trier, I suppose.
God loves a terrierGod loves a trier, I suppose.
FTFY
AW111 said:
Disastrous said:
And that still doesn't tell you anything, after all this time?
God loves a trier, I suppose.
God loves a terrierGod loves a trier, I suppose.
FTFY
Axionknight said:
don4l said:
Well' it's clear that Hodges is a snivelling weaselly coward. He clearly didn't streak. He is wearing boxer shorts.
Yet another prime example of a lying leftie.
I'm very disappointed that Guido has let him off the hook.
As has been noted, he didn't wear the mask, and he didn't sing "Land of Hope and Glory".
Why wouldn't he sing Land of H and G? It is a great tune.
Lighten up Don, he raised a few quid for charity and gave us all a bit of a chuckle in the process Yet another prime example of a lying leftie.
I'm very disappointed that Guido has let him off the hook.
As has been noted, he didn't wear the mask, and he didn't sing "Land of Hope and Glory".
Why wouldn't he sing Land of H and G? It is a great tune.
I couldn't have been happier.
I got to write about a snivelling, weasley, lying, lefty, coward who hates his own country so much that he couldn't sing Land of hope and glory. Most lefties try to hide their appaling leanings. In this instance, Hodges let his guard slip, and revealed his true nature.
Honestly, do you really believe that I didn't enjoy writing the above?
don4l said:
I got to write about a snivelling, weasley, lying, lefty, coward who hates his own country so much that he couldn't sing Land of hope and glory.
Ah Yes - the British Empire at it's best going back centuries - "Land of Hope & Glory"The music was actually written by Sir Edward Elgar in 1901 as Pomp & Circumstance March no.1, with the lyrics composed by A C Benson in 1902. More details here (yes Wiki I know but accurate in this case: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Land_of_Hope_and_Glo... )
The song's main claim to fame over its lifetime is through being sung by a bunch of lefties at the Last Night of the Proms every September.
A British Tradition that goes back centuries? Sadly not. Queen Victoria was dead before it was first heard and some of the older members of my family that I once knew were born before Elgar set pen to paper.
Sorry to disappoint
rs1952 said:
Ah Yes - the British Empire at it's best going back centuries - "Land of Hope & Glory"
The music was actually written by Sir Edward Elgar in 1901 as Pomp & Circumstance March no.1, with the lyrics composed by A C Benson in 1902. More details here (yes Wiki I know but accurate in this case: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Land_of_Hope_and_Glo... )
The song's main claim to fame over its lifetime is through being sung by a bunch of lefties at the Last Night of the Proms every September.
A British Tradition that goes back centuries? Sadly not. Queen Victoria was dead before it was first heard and some of the older members of my family that I once knew were born before Elgar set pen to paper.
Sorry to disappoint
Bored in Capetown are we? The music was actually written by Sir Edward Elgar in 1901 as Pomp & Circumstance March no.1, with the lyrics composed by A C Benson in 1902. More details here (yes Wiki I know but accurate in this case: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Land_of_Hope_and_Glo... )
The song's main claim to fame over its lifetime is through being sung by a bunch of lefties at the Last Night of the Proms every September.
A British Tradition that goes back centuries? Sadly not. Queen Victoria was dead before it was first heard and some of the older members of my family that I once knew were born before Elgar set pen to paper.
Sorry to disappoint
alfie2244 said:
Bored in Capetown are we?
Well it got dark out 90 minutes ago and its started to cool down (although not too hot today, only 25) so I thought I'd look at PH and see whether there was anything to reply to.
PS - I went to the Paul Kruger Museum in Pretoria a week last Tuesday. He wouldn't have thought much of "Land of Hope & Glory" either
Axionknight said:
He's the one who left S.A in exile after the war turned against him, right? The same one who once told people not to rebel because he had guns and they didn't?
Half right. Paul Kruger was the leader of the Afrikaaner South African Republic. He ended up in an exile of sorts because he was in Europe trying to raise support for the Boer cause, just as the Boers ended up coming second in the war.It was one of the British generals who used the phrase about guns and rebelling, but I'm not going to look it up now because it has absolutely nothing to do with "UKIP - The Future"
Alfie indirectly started this, not me
rs1952 said:
Axionknight said:
He's the one who left S.A in exile after the war turned against him, right? The same one who once told people not to rebel because he had guns and they didn't?
Half right. Paul Kruger was the leader of the Afrikaaner South African Republic. He ended up in an exile of sorts because he was in Europe trying to raise support for the Boer cause, just as the Boers ended up coming second in the war.It was one of the British generals who used the phrase about guns and rebelling, but I'm not going to look it up now because it has absolutely nothing to do with "UKIP - The Future"
Alfie indirectly started this, not me
alfie2244 said:
rs1952 said:
Axionknight said:
He's the one who left S.A in exile after the war turned against him, right? The same one who once told people not to rebel because he had guns and they didn't?
Half right. Paul Kruger was the leader of the Afrikaaner South African Republic. He ended up in an exile of sorts because he was in Europe trying to raise support for the Boer cause, just as the Boers ended up coming second in the war.It was one of the British generals who used the phrase about guns and rebelling, but I'm not going to look it up now because it has absolutely nothing to do with "UKIP - The Future"
Alfie indirectly started this, not me
Do you use a different definition of the word to all the rest of us? The ones I use are:The expression of one's meaning by using language that normally signifies the opposite, typically for humorous or emphatic effect. Or:
A state of affairs or an event that seems deliberately contrary to what one expects and is often wryly amusing as a result.
I don't know about you, but I'm buggered if I can find any irony in my original post which was about the song "Land of Hope and Glory" (more or less on topic) and my later one was about Paul Kruger after your next comment (see below). Now don't get me wrong - Land of Hope & Glory is a good tune; I like most of Elgar's music, but the lyrics are a little jingoistic for the 21st century. A bit like William Blake's "Jerusalem" written as a poem in the early 19th century and put to music by Hubert Parry in 1916. Both of these ditties have been proposed by some as an English National Anthem (as opposed to the British one, but what the Scots think of the now largely ignored verse 5 is a place I'm not going in this post
)Although Don didn't say as much in his original post, he implied that the non-streaker ought to have sung it because of its historical significance for the UK. The point of my post was that this particular song had not been sung by British colonialists whilst chasing indigenous populations up gum trees waving blunderbusses since Oliver Cromwell was a lad, but was actually much more modern. In fact, written just befoire we started giving the Empire away. Now remind me, Don, which was the first bit to go (other than the USA, which Cecil Rhodes thought was one of God's greatest mistakes) - I think it was most of the island that you come from, if I'm not much mistaken
Anyway Alfie, after I posted that, you quoted it and added the comment:
alfie2244 said:
Bored in Capetown are we?
Looks like a thread hijack to me. By the way, Cape Town is two words But pray tell Alf, and now referring to your latest pronouncement, what is my "cause" and how am I going to "raise support" for it on PH? You see, logic would suggest that in order to raise support for a cause you must first know what that cause is. I don't know what it is, so perhaps you could tell me, seeing as you appear to know?
As regards finding better things to do whilst down here than post on PH, I do find better things to do. But I also post on PH because when you are up for 17 hours a day you need a bit of lighter relief so I check my emails from time to time, and also check PH to see if there's anything to reply to. Don't forget that its GMT +2 down here, so it is 2030hrs at the moment and dark out. I can't see many better things to do in the dark - it's me age, y'see...
rs1952 said:
Half right. Paul Kruger was the leader of the Afrikaaner South African Republic. He ended up in an exile of sorts because he was in Europe trying to raise support for the Boer cause, just as the Boers ended up coming second in the war.
It was one of the British generals who used the phrase about guns and rebelling, but I'm not going to look it up now because it has absolutely nothing to do with "UKIP - The Future"
Alfie indirectly started this, not me
I'll have to disagree on why he was in Europe, the war was all but lost and the much desired German support was never going to materialize. The British Army had essentially annexed the SAR and Free State by that point - apart from a few recalcitrant fighters the war was lost.It was one of the British generals who used the phrase about guns and rebelling, but I'm not going to look it up now because it has absolutely nothing to do with "UKIP - The Future"
Alfie indirectly started this, not me
Quote reference, hopefully it's correct, tis' all I could find that was free issue:
http://www.forgottenbooks.com/readbook_text/Paul_K...
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