UKIP - The Future - Volume 4

[saabster14]

just to lighten to mood on here a bit:

http://www.thepoke.co.uk/2015/03/06/tweet-response...

[alfie2244]

Devil2575 said:

alfie2244 said:

Devil2575 said:

My point still stands, deaply unpleasant people and that goes for many of their supporters on PH.

Their mode of operation also bears comparison with the Nazis as does all parties on the far right of politics. Create fear and hatred of others, be they immigrants, jews, Muslims etc.

Comparison with Nazis...........Could you please give me examples from PH posters that you refer to....many thanks in advance.

No, I can't be arsed. It's my opinion of some of the people who post on here. I don't feel the need to search back through past posts to justify my opinion to you.

Yet you felt the need to let us all know what your opinion is...........Ah bless your little cotton socks.

[saabster14]

alfie2244 said:

Devil2575 said:

alfie2244 said:

Devil2575 said:

My point still stands, deaply unpleasant people and that goes for many of their supporters on PH.

Their mode of operation also bears comparison with the Nazis as does all parties on the far right of politics. Create fear and hatred of others, be they immigrants, jews, Muslims etc.

Comparison with Nazis...........Could you please give me examples from PH posters that you refer to....many thanks in advance.

No, I can't be arsed. It's my opinion of some of the people who post on here. I don't feel the need to search back through past posts to justify my opinion to you.

Yet you felt the need to let us all know what your opinion is...........Ah bless your little cotton socks.

I can cite some examples of UKIP (the actual party, not posters on here) comparisons to Nazi's:

https://www.indy100.com/article/people-are-calling...

http://www.newstatesman.com/2016/06/nigel-farage-s...

https://www.rt.com/uk/347089-ukip-poster-refugees-...

http://www.greatbritishpolitics.co.uk/europe/131-u...

http://order-order.com/2016/08/08/ukip-nec-compare...

[Devil2575]

alfie2244 said:

Devil2575 said:

alfie2244 said:

Devil2575 said:

My point still stands, deaply unpleasant people and that goes for many of their supporters on PH.

Their mode of operation also bears comparison with the Nazis as does all parties on the far right of politics. Create fear and hatred of others, be they immigrants, jews, Muslims etc.

Comparison with Nazis...........Could you please give me examples from PH posters that you refer to....many thanks in advance.

No, I can't be arsed. It's my opinion of some of the people who post on here. I don't feel the need to search back through past posts to justify my opinion to you.

Yet you felt the need to let us all know what your opinion is...........Ah bless your little cotton socks.

Unlike everyone else who don't post their opinions?

I'd wager that the vast majority of people on PH are actually just posting their opinions.

[robemcdonald]

alfie2244 said:

Yet you felt the need to let us all know what your opinion is...........Ah bless your little cotton socks.

This is one of the problems with pistonheads and in particular this thread. Posters want to close down debate by belittling anyone with a contrary opinion; either misquoting or redacting their posts or general schoolyard style antics like above. Really it's a form of bullying and if you are so sure about your arguments it should be unnecessary.
No doubt this will get flamed by the usual offenders, but that will kind of prove my point.

[Devil2575]

robemcdonald said:

alfie2244 said:

Yet you felt the need to let us all know what your opinion is...........Ah bless your little cotton socks.

This is one of the problems with pistonheads and in particular this thread. Posters want to close down debate by belittling anyone with a contrary opinion; either misquoting or redacting their posts or general schoolyard style antics like above. Really it's a form of bullying and if you are so sure about your arguments it should be unnecessary.
No doubt this will get flamed by the usual offenders, but that will kind of prove my point.

Do you feel bullied?

Would you like the forum to be a "safespace"?

I don't regard my post as schoolyard antics, I was simply expressing my opinion. I read a lot of threads on PH and many of the posters that I come across with distasteful views seem to pop up as supporters of UKIP. I wasn't saying that of alfie2244 I hasten to add. I also wasn't making a comparison between posters on PH and the Nazi party. That comments was about comparisions between UKIP and other far right parites in Europe.

[smn159]

Devil2575 said:

Do you feel bullied?

Would you like the forum to be a "safespace"?

I don't regard my post as schoolyard antics, I was simply expressing my opinion. I read a lot of threads on PH and many of the posters that I come across with distasteful views seem to pop up as supporters of UKIP. I wasn't saying that of alfie2244 I hasten to add. I also wasn't making a comparison between posters on PH and the Nazi party. That comments was about comparisions between UKIP and other far right parites in Europe.

I don't think that he meant you

[robemcdonald]

Devil2575 said:

robemcdonald said:

alfie2244 said:

Yet you felt the need to let us all know what your opinion is...........Ah bless your little cotton socks.

This is one of the problems with pistonheads and in particular this thread. Posters want to close down debate by belittling anyone with a contrary opinion; either misquoting or redacting their posts or general schoolyard style antics like above. Really it's a form of bullying and if you are so sure about your arguments it should be unnecessary.
No doubt this will get flamed by the usual offenders, but that will kind of prove my point.

Do you feel bullied?

Would you like the forum to be a "safespace"?

I don't regard my post as schoolyard antics, I was simply expressing my opinion. I read a lot of threads on PH and many of the posters that I come across with distasteful views seem to pop up as supporters of UKIP. I wasn't saying that of alfie2244 I hasten to add. I also wasn't making a comparison between posters on PH and the Nazi party. That comments was about comparisions between UKIP and other far right parites in Europe.

No I don't feel bullied. Thank you for asking. Thank you as well for helping make my point my point with your knee-jerk attack without even realising my initial comment wasn't even aimed at you.
There must be a lot of PH members that have something to say on these issues, but are put off by the toxic nature of a lot of replies.
I don't need the forum to be a safe space. There are lots of sub-sections with a much more convivial tone than NP&E I spend more of my time there. I do feel it is a bit of a shame that we are potentially missing out on some interesting insight by closing down debate in this way.

[saabster14]

Has this been discussed yet?

UKIP group ordered to repay €172,000 to EU by December 21

http://www.politico.eu/article/ukip-group-ordered-...

[Jinx]

saabster14 said:

Has this been discussed yet?

UKIP group ordered to repay €172,000 to EU by December 21

http://www.politico.eu/article/ukip-group-ordered-...

Slightly misleading as UKIP are part of the alliance that needs to pay this money back. We don't know how much or how many of the disputed claims come from UKIP.

[MTech535]

robemcdonald said:

alfie2244 said:

Yet you felt the need to let us all know what your opinion is...........Ah bless your little cotton socks.

This is one of the problems with pistonheads and in particular this thread. Posters want to close down debate by belittling anyone with a contrary opinion; either misquoting or redacting their posts or general schoolyard style antics like above. Really it's a form of bullying and if you are so sure about your arguments it should be unnecessary.
No doubt this will get flamed by the usual offenders, but that will kind of prove my point.

I think that being compared to Nazis winds some people up

[saabster14]

Jinx said:

saabster14 said:

Has this been discussed yet?

UKIP group ordered to repay €172,000 to EU by December 21

http://www.politico.eu/article/ukip-group-ordered-...

Slightly misleading as UKIP are part of the alliance that needs to pay this money back. We don't know how much or how many of the disputed claims come from UKIP.

Do you mean the Europe of Freedom and Direct Democracy group?


Lovely bunch of people IIRC?

[Jinx]

saabster14 said:

Do you mean the Europe of Freedom and Direct Democracy group?


Lovely bunch of people IIRC?

Nope "Alliance for Direct Democracy in Europe" - much nicer bunch of people

[Einion Yrth]

MTech535 said:

I think that being compared to Nazis winds some people up

Strange that, I wonder why.

[saabster14]

Jinx said:

Nope "Alliance for Direct Democracy in Europe" - much nicer bunch of people

Ahh the ADDE... is that a national socialist type movement?

[s2art]

saabster14 said:

Jinx said:

Nope "Alliance for Direct Democracy in Europe" - much nicer bunch of people

Ahh the ADDE... is that a national socialist type movement?

Nope. Similar minded to UKIP, who are not socialist, more a small government, right of centre, anti uncontrolled immigration, libertarian bunch. National Socialists are for big government, leftish, authoritarian types.

[robemcdonald]

MTech535 said:

robemcdonald said:

alfie2244 said:

Yet you felt the need to let us all know what your opinion is...........Ah bless your little cotton socks.

This is one of the problems with pistonheads and in particular this thread. Posters want to close down debate by belittling anyone with a contrary opinion; either misquoting or redacting their posts or general schoolyard style antics like above. Really it's a form of bullying and if you are so sure about your arguments it should be unnecessary.
No doubt this will get flamed by the usual offenders, but that will kind of prove my point.

I think that being compared to Nazis winds some people up

Agreed it's a cheap shot. If a new outlet reports certain parallels the it's worth mentioning, but to openly accuse someone of being a Nazi is over the line.

[MarshPhantom]

UKIP chap is doing well on last night's Any Questions.

What a tard.

[Esseesse]

Apparently Private Eye reveals that Arron Banks has told Frederick Barclay that he'd like to buy the Telegraph titles.

[hidetheelephants]

Esseesse said:

Apparently Private Eye reveals that Arron Banks has told Frederick Barclay that he'd like to buy the Telegraph titles.

Is it possible for the Telegraph to become more anti-EU?