UKIP - The Future - Volume 4

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alfie2244

11,292 posts

189 months

Sunday 26th February 2017
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///ajd said:
alfie2244 said:
///ajd said:
If I talk like a tt (all day every day on PH) then I am a tt.
The most sensible post you have ever made thumbup
Sorry, did I strike a nerve? That usually brings out the low grade insults.
No but it appears I did..........you seem to be coming more deluded by the day and a clear example of the old adage "when all else fails there's always delusion"....in fact I am beginning to worry about your sanity a little.

brenflys777

2,678 posts

178 months

Monday 27th February 2017
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Carswell was asked on a R4 program a couple of days ago if he'd rejoin the conservatives. His answer was that it wouldn't be fair on his constituents because he'd feel morally obliged to hold a by election as he did last time he switched.

It's hardly a ringing endorsement of UKIP but then I don't think Carswell is a plant either, he seems to be happy to function as an MP who supports any party that agrees with him on any subject, but he's not happy to put party loyalty above his views at all. I'm quite happy with that because I agree with Carswell most of the time...

Tryke3

1,609 posts

95 months

Monday 27th February 2017
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alfie2244 said:
So how is "controlled immigration ( treating the worldwide equally) rather than discriminate "anti-foreigner nastiness"?

What a sad, pathetic person you are... not radio 4 perhaps but by fk you do keep trying to bang the same old racist drum on here.......but like the boy who cried wolf, most have sussed you out and tend to either ignore or tease you.

ps 17 -10 to England now....bloody racist English rugby players picking on the poor Italians.
So you are saying ukip are not fully 100% pure racist scum ? Think you are 100% lying

alfie2244

11,292 posts

189 months

Monday 27th February 2017
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Tryke3 said:
alfie2244 said:
So how is "controlled immigration ( treating the worldwide equally) rather than discriminate "anti-foreigner nastiness"?

What a sad, pathetic person you are... not radio 4 perhaps but by fk you do keep trying to bang the same old racist drum on here.......but like the boy who cried wolf, most have sussed you out and tend to either ignore or tease you.

ps 17 -10 to England now....bloody racist English rugby players picking on the poor Italians.
So you are saying ukip are not fully 100% pure racist scum ? Think you are 100% lying
Don't be late for school.

FN2TypeR

7,091 posts

94 months

Monday 27th February 2017
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Tryke3 said:
alfie2244 said:
So how is "controlled immigration ( treating the worldwide equally) rather than discriminate "anti-foreigner nastiness"?

What a sad, pathetic person you are... not radio 4 perhaps but by fk you do keep trying to bang the same old racist drum on here.......but like the boy who cried wolf, most have sussed you out and tend to either ignore or tease you.

ps 17 -10 to England now....bloody racist English rugby players picking on the poor Italians.
So you are saying ukip are not fully 100% pure racist scum ? Think you are 100% lying
Are you saying that they are? Just the party luminaries, or their members too? Or even the (circa) 3.85 million people who voted for them in 2015?

laugh yes, every last one of them, jack booted racists one and all.

jjlynn27

7,935 posts

110 months

Monday 27th February 2017
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FN2TypeR said:
Are you saying that they are? Just the party luminaries, or their members too? Or even the (circa) 3.85 million people who voted for them in 2015?

laugh yes, every last one of them, jack booted racists one and all.
Probably not all of them, some were too busy pissing in other people's gardens.

alfie2244

11,292 posts

189 months

Monday 27th February 2017
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jjlynn27 said:
FN2TypeR said:
Are you saying that they are? Just the party luminaries, or their members too? Or even the (circa) 3.85 million people who voted for them in 2015?

laugh yes, every last one of them, jack booted racists one and all.
Probably not all of them, some were too busy pissing in other people's gardens.
That's the trouble with getting old.comes to us all in the end even you Popeye.


Wonder what her political persuasion is?

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...

FN2TypeR

7,091 posts

94 months

Monday 27th February 2017
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jjlynn27 said:
FN2TypeR said:
Are you saying that they are? Just the party luminaries, or their members too? Or even the (circa) 3.85 million people who voted for them in 2015?

laugh yes, every last one of them, jack booted racists one and all.
Probably not all of them, some were too busy pissing in other people's gardens.
It might have been the garden of somebody who belongs to a group they are racist against?

Two birds, one stone!

rohrl

8,742 posts

146 months

Tuesday 28th February 2017
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Farage wants Carswell to be thrown out of UKIP.

Daily Telegraph said:
UKIP was in a state of open civil war on Monday night after Nigel Farage publicly warned that the party will collapse unless its sole MP Douglas Carswell is thrown out.

Mr Farage, the former UK Independence Party leader, said Mr Carswell had “sought to split and divide Ukip in every way imaginable” since defecting from the Conservatives to UKIP in 2014.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/02/27/ukip-op...

At the same time Arron Banks, the party's moneybags, has threatened to walk away unless he is made chairman, saying UKIP is run like a jumble sale.

The Independent said:
Major Ukip donor Arron Banks has threatened to pull his funding unless he is made chairman of the party so he can "purge" members and stop it from being "run like a jumble sale".
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/ukip...

Is UKIP in a death spiral or is this just the precursor to them rising to seize power over the whole UK (and possibly the world).

FredClogs

14,041 posts

162 months

Tuesday 28th February 2017
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This is the problem with bigots when you drill down you find that deep inside they dislike everyone, so like rats once their is a scarcity of victims for them to turn on - they turn on each other.

Without a very strong leader (dare I invoke fascist doctrine) and without clear instruction on who to feast on, just like the rats, they attack the nearest moving target.

- No rats were harmed in the creation of this metaphor.

BlackLabel

13,251 posts

124 months

Tuesday 28th February 2017
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Carswell on Twitter.




jjlynn27

7,935 posts

110 months

Tuesday 28th February 2017
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rohrl said:
Farage wants Carswell to be thrown out of UKIP.

Daily Telegraph said:
UKIP was in a state of open civil war on Monday night after Nigel Farage publicly warned that the party will collapse unless its sole MP Douglas Carswell is thrown out.

Mr Farage, the former UK Independence Party leader, said Mr Carswell had “sought to split and divide Ukip in every way imaginable” since defecting from the Conservatives to UKIP in 2014.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/02/27/ukip-op...

At the same time Arron Banks, the party's moneybags, has threatened to walk away unless he is made chairman, saying UKIP is run like a jumble sale.

The Independent said:
Major Ukip donor Arron Banks has threatened to pull his funding unless he is made chairman of the party so he can "purge" members and stop it from being "run like a jumble sale".
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/ukip...

Is UKIP in a death spiral or is this just the precursor to them rising to seize power over the whole UK (and possibly the world).
Is there any other party where both of it's leaders failed to get elected to HoP?

They were, and still are, a joke, a gathering of incontinent OAPs who dislike them foreigners. A last resort for 'uhm, it's someone elses fault'.
Long may it continue, very entertaining to watch.

Jonesy23

4,650 posts

137 months

Tuesday 28th February 2017
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It can't stay as it is and it can't go the way those two egoists want either.

I suspect the whole thing is stuffed.

What seems to have properly ruined it are the career types and the stupid level of public infighting that they introduced.

Banks and Farage really need to realise it isn't all about them though.

rohrl

8,742 posts

146 months

Tuesday 28th February 2017
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jjlynn27 said:
Is there any other party where both of it's leaders failed to get elected to HoP?
Blair and Brown are both still Misters aren't they?

TTwiggy

11,548 posts

205 months

Tuesday 28th February 2017
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rohrl said:
Blair and Brown are both still Misters aren't they?
Both were elected to the HoP though...

rohrl

8,742 posts

146 months

Tuesday 28th February 2017
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TTwiggy said:
rohrl said:
Blair and Brown are both still Misters aren't they?
Both were elected to the HoP though...
Yes, sorry, I misread that as meaning House of Lords, since the row between Farage and Carswell is about honours.

TTwiggy

11,548 posts

205 months

Tuesday 28th February 2017
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rohrl said:
TTwiggy said:
rohrl said:
Blair and Brown are both still Misters aren't they?
Both were elected to the HoP though...
Yes, sorry, I misread that as meaning House of Lords, since the row between Farage and Carswell is about honours.
I guessed you might have!

alfie2244

11,292 posts

189 months

Tuesday 28th February 2017
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jjlynn27 said:
Is there any other party where both of it's leaders failed to get elected to HoP?

They were, and still are, a joke, a gathering of incontinent OAPs who dislike them foreigners. A last resort for 'uhm, it's someone elses fault'.
Long may it continue, very entertaining to watch.
This is entertaining to watch.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rvYuoWyk8iU

Halb

53,012 posts

184 months

Tuesday 28th February 2017
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grantone said:
Can Carswell defect back to the Conservatives easily enough?
Anyone can rat, but it takes a certain amount of ingenuity to re-rat

jjlynn27

7,935 posts

110 months

Tuesday 28th February 2017
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Halb said:
grantone said:
Can Carswell defect back to the Conservatives easily enough?
Anyone can rat, but it takes a certain amount of ingenuity to re-rat
IIRC Carswell said that he doesn't feel that it's fair to go back to Cons without another election. I might disagree with his politics but compared to rest of the UKIP the guy is a straight shooter. No surprise that they hate him.