UKIP - The Future - Volume 4

[Zod]

FN2TypeR said:

Zod said:

The man is a liability. The Conservatives should not have taken him back.

Would I be mistaken in thinking that you said you knew (or knew of) the man professionally, out of interest?

I agree with your assessment either way, I think having him rejoin the party/group is a bad move politically "look,Tory/UKIP, they're just the same" etc etc

Not personally, but he worked for us and he left under a very dark cloud. No hindsight involved. His HR record was awful.

[Sylvaforever]

///ajd said:

jjlynn27 said:

BlackLabel said:

Ukip leader Paul Nuttall barricades himself in room and refuses to say if he will stand as MP. When he eventually emerged ten minutes later Mr Nuttall said the party’s national executive committee would decide at the end of this whether or not he will stand as an MP

Ahahahaha.

https://twitter.com/MrHarryCole/status/85645842046...



The comments are priceless.

Quite remarkable.

So after his comments about the burka yesterday, he suddenly doesn't want to show his own face in public.

Quite good that

[Eddie Strohacker]

The integration agenda appears repellent even to twenty year plus party stalwarts.

http://www.jamescarver.org/James_Carver_resigns_as...

We are witnessing the end of UKIP. It's job is done & having tried a new, discriminatory tack that is bound to end in failure, and with it's leader busy preparing to defend his Tour de France title, the jig is up.

[bitchstewie]

I think the question you have to ask yourself is, if that manifesto was printed out and left on a table and you were asked to read it and choose which party or political movement you'd attribute it to, who would you choose?

I'm going to guess many people would assume EDL, Britain First and probably a bunch of similar ones that I've not even heard of.

UKIP used to make some points at a time when making them would often get the discussion closed down - this latest stuff is just repellent though.

[AW111]

bhstewie said:

I think the question you have to ask yourself is, if that manifesto was printed out and left on a table and you were asked to read it and choose which party or political movement you'd attribute it to, who would you choose?

I'm going to guess many people would assume EDL, Britain First and probably a bunch of similar ones that I've not even heard of.

UKIP used to make some points at a time when making them would often get the discussion closed down - this latest stuff is just repellent though.

It seems to strike a chord with some posters here.

[BlackLabel]

You know things are bad when even someone like Arron Banks thinks you're going too far on the anti Muslim/Islam stuff.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/ukip...

[anonymous-user]

UKIP are simply imploding now. Mr Nuttall just seems like a dodgy time share salesman. It's a pity it would have been more fitting/ striking/ to have just announced a dissolvement of the party and maybe an instruction to vote conservative or something.
The FGM thing is being parodied on several websites . The one I copied that upset some is one of the milder ones out there. There are also some complete barm pots putting themselves up for council elections. The Gisela woman is one of the oddest but there's a website I came across that had a list of some of the councillors pledges that were genuinely funny. I'll try and find it

It's a sad end and its a bit like the dying days of the SNP years ago. David Owen just didn't know when to stop

[Username888]

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Take out the "white" and I completely agree with you.

Every single instruction for Islamic women to cover themselves from head to toe in black has come from a man. I agree - what gives them the right?

"White" or "Brown" (as is usually the case), has absolutely nothing to do with it (for me anyway), - however, I would guess that most of the above were in fact "brown", - if that really matters to you.

[alfie2244]

They now have 1 kipper less

[saaby93]

Now that their job is done - for them Brexit is done and the Cons are activating the plan is there a role for UKIP?
Nigel the flamboyant is taking a back seat and the rest of the party has been in disarray and infighting

Nowhere to go?

[wc98]

yep, i expect them to get less than half the votes this time around come the general election. purpose served .

[Wobbegong]

Apart from making sure the exit goes ahead, I'd say they're now irrelevant as they've achieved their goal.

[Smollet]

Can't see any point to them anymore. They've achieved their aim. Tbh arguably the most influential and successful party there's in British politics for many a generation.

[Atomic12C]

I mentioned this soon after the referendum vote, that UKIP are effectively finished and no longer have purpose for the voter.
The only reason a voter would now use UKIP is for a tactical or protest vote.

[Halb]

Mildly surprised at UKiPs disappearing, it's too early to call, but from losing 41 seats so far, and the Tories hoovering them up, it seems to be heading that way, Nigel has gone and he's left Lord Commander General-Captain Nuttalls in charge, capable man, very capable.

[Jonesy23]

I'd say they're basically done.

I don't think anyone every really liked the party, certainly the 'professional' bit of it was never up to much (especially after it got successful & attracted careerists) and more interested in fighting each other for control than anything else. And policy wise they were vague & contradictory apart from their big headline policy.

What they were good for was pushing for a particular issue and also as someone to vote for that wasn't one of the other major parties.

Things have moved on a bit.

I'd also say that Farage & Banks really haven't helped things; in recent times they really showed up as being in it for themselves & sod everyone else & the rest of the party really don't seem up to the job.

[Puggit]

2 things have happened. Brexit means they achieved their aim. Farage stood down.

Farage may be hated by the left, but without him as the figurehead, UKIP are nothing.

[Zetec-S]

Wouldn't be a surprise. Other than their anti EU message they were/are a joke. Candidates constantly getting caught out with some faux pas, no real policy to speak of. Can't work out if they are trying to woo Labour voters or right wing anti-EU Tories.

Current strategy seems to be lifting stuff from an old BNP manifesto.

[FiF]

Yes UKIP is stuffed and haven't helped themselves.

Having said that there is definitely room and opportunity for a centrist "none of the above / usual suspects" type party.

Suspect Blair thinks he could get one going, but the deluded oik doesn't realise just how much the public regard him as a poisonous git. Lib Dems might think, when they've had too many sherbets, that they're another, but again too many bridges burnt, so equally deluded.

[768]

The Conservatives have embraced their raison d'être, they've failed to pivot after the referendum result and at this point have probably missed their opportunity to do so.

Assuming May stays the course I can't see them making a comeback from here.