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Equally poor performances from greasy dave and wallace gump to be fair.
What stood out for me was the reiteration by both of them of what THEY wanted, rather than what WE wanted.
Indeed several times it was reported that I was bellowing at the tv " Who gives a f
k! what YOU want? You work for us you tts!"
Minglands assertions of being the best for the job "cos I finks I am der best" were risible and an indictment of his lack of connection with public opinion and the mood and reality.
Furthermore, the fact that he so easily stabbed his brother in the back means he'd not give a second thought to stabbing the voters in the very same way.
He came across as someone desperately trying to look different to the die hes been cast in, a geek and loser.
Cameron just came across as evasive ( required trait for all politicos) and someone who is insulated from effects of his policies.
Another one who kept on about what he wanted.
It comes back to what I originally stated, keep banging your head on the three party system wall and youll keep getting a headache, the outcome will be the same every single time.
I just wish people would wake up and see that and stop stupidly expecting to see anything different result from voting for the three stooges.
Left me cold and as determined as ever to not give my vote to any of the three undeserving idiots.
What stood out for me was the reiteration by both of them of what THEY wanted, rather than what WE wanted.
Indeed several times it was reported that I was bellowing at the tv " Who gives a f
k! what YOU want? You work for us you tts!"Minglands assertions of being the best for the job "cos I finks I am der best" were risible and an indictment of his lack of connection with public opinion and the mood and reality.
Furthermore, the fact that he so easily stabbed his brother in the back means he'd not give a second thought to stabbing the voters in the very same way.
He came across as someone desperately trying to look different to the die hes been cast in, a geek and loser.
Cameron just came across as evasive ( required trait for all politicos) and someone who is insulated from effects of his policies.
Another one who kept on about what he wanted.
It comes back to what I originally stated, keep banging your head on the three party system wall and youll keep getting a headache, the outcome will be the same every single time.
I just wish people would wake up and see that and stop stupidly expecting to see anything different result from voting for the three stooges.
Left me cold and as determined as ever to not give my vote to any of the three undeserving idiots.
mikal83 said:
Why was Paxo going on and on and on, about Millipedes bro..........just wtf was he supposed to say. Paxo came across as a know it all smarty arse at times and quite condescending
It was a line of questioning designed to elicit some kind of outburst im sure, but further to that it exposed the fact that miliband has no issues regarding who he'll trample on while climbing the ladder, including you and me.4v6 said:
It was a line of questioning designed to elicit some kind of outburst im sure, but further to that it exposed the fact that miliband has no issues regarding who he'll trample on while climbing the ladder, including you and me.
Trample on! Why should he have not competed against his brother for a leadership competition?WestyCarl said:
4v6 said:
It was a line of questioning designed to elicit some kind of outburst im sure, but further to that it exposed the fact that miliband has no issues regarding who he'll trample on while climbing the ladder, including you and me.
Trample on! Why should he have not competed against his brother for a leadership competition?2)He didnt do it in a morally acceptable manner, but then morals arent exactly any politicians strongpoint, especially when it comes to getting to the top to take a dump on those below.....even ones brother is expendable.
4v6 said:
Equally poor performances from greasy dave and wallace gump to be fair.
What stood out for me was the reiteration by both of them of what THEY wanted, rather than what WE wanted.
Indeed several times it was reported that I was bellowing at the tv " Who gives a fk! what YOU want? You work for us you tts!"
Minglands assertions of being the best for the job "cos I finks I am der best" were risible and an indictment of his lack of connection with public opinion and the mood and reality.
Furthermore, the fact that he so easily stabbed his brother in the back means he'd not give a second thought to stabbing the voters in the very same way.
He came across as someone desperately trying to look different to the die hes been cast in, a geek and loser.
Cameron just came across as evasive ( required trait for all politicos) and someone who is insulated from effects of his policies.
Another one who kept on about what he wanted.
It comes back to what I originally stated, keep banging your head on the three party system wall and youll keep getting a headache, the outcome will be the same every single time.
I just wish people would wake up and see that and stop stupidly expecting to see anything different result from voting for the three stooges.
Left me cold and as determined as ever to not give my vote to any of the three undeserving idiots.
Nailed. What stood out for me was the reiteration by both of them of what THEY wanted, rather than what WE wanted.
Indeed several times it was reported that I was bellowing at the tv " Who gives a f
k! what YOU want? You work for us you tts!"Minglands assertions of being the best for the job "cos I finks I am der best" were risible and an indictment of his lack of connection with public opinion and the mood and reality.
Furthermore, the fact that he so easily stabbed his brother in the back means he'd not give a second thought to stabbing the voters in the very same way.
He came across as someone desperately trying to look different to the die hes been cast in, a geek and loser.
Cameron just came across as evasive ( required trait for all politicos) and someone who is insulated from effects of his policies.
Another one who kept on about what he wanted.
It comes back to what I originally stated, keep banging your head on the three party system wall and youll keep getting a headache, the outcome will be the same every single time.
I just wish people would wake up and see that and stop stupidly expecting to see anything different result from voting for the three stooges.
Left me cold and as determined as ever to not give my vote to any of the three undeserving idiots.
4v6 said:
WestyCarl said:
4v6 said:
It was a line of questioning designed to elicit some kind of outburst im sure, but further to that it exposed the fact that miliband has no issues regarding who he'll trample on while climbing the ladder, including you and me.
Trample on! Why should he have not competed against his brother for a leadership competition?2)He didnt do it in a morally acceptable manner, but then morals arent exactly any politicians strongpoint, especially when it comes to getting to the top to take a dump on those below.....even ones brother is expendable.
WestyCarl said:
4v6 said:
WestyCarl said:
4v6 said:
It was a line of questioning designed to elicit some kind of outburst im sure, but further to that it exposed the fact that miliband has no issues regarding who he'll trample on while climbing the ladder, including you and me.
Trample on! Why should he have not competed against his brother for a leadership competition?2)He didnt do it in a morally acceptable manner, but then morals arent exactly any politicians strongpoint, especially when it comes to getting to the top to take a dump on those below.....even ones brother is expendable.
turbobloke said:
WestyCarl said:
4v6 said:
WestyCarl said:
4v6 said:
It was a line of questioning designed to elicit some kind of outburst im sure, but further to that it exposed the fact that miliband has no issues regarding who he'll trample on while climbing the ladder, including you and me.
Trample on! Why should he have not competed against his brother for a leadership competition?2)He didnt do it in a morally acceptable manner, but then morals arent exactly any politicians strongpoint, especially when it comes to getting to the top to take a dump on those below.....even ones brother is expendable.
Neither of these two are leaders, they are scripted actors. Makes you wonder what the people are like if they are the best the their teams can offer!
As for Paxo going off on a tangent and getting personal, any strong leader wouldn't care less and easily fought their corner without blubbing.
"Are you ok Ed" says it all really...
As for Paxo going off on a tangent and getting personal, any strong leader wouldn't care less and easily fought their corner without blubbing.
"Are you ok Ed" says it all really...
How do genuine floating voters here think it went? I consider myself a floating voter although at the moment I'm more likely to vote Tory and there's little chance I'll vote Labour with Ed in charge. I think both of them waffled, (situation normal), but Ed just went to pieces. I'm convinced that if David Miliband had been sat in his seat it would have been much closer, if not a total reversal with Labour coming out on top.
Chlamydia said:
How do genuine floating voters here think it went? I consider myself a floating voter although at the moment I'm more likely to vote Tory and there's little chance I'll vote Labour with Ed in charge. I think both of them waffled, (situation normal), but Ed just went to pieces. I'm convinced that if David Miliband had been sat in his seat it would have been much closer, if not a total reversal with Labour coming out on top.
I vote purely on policy not personality so last night had no influence, beyond any further insight into policy I could glean. Amusing though.Snozzwangler said:
turbobloke said:
WestyCarl said:
4v6 said:
WestyCarl said:
4v6 said:
It was a line of questioning designed to elicit some kind of outburst im sure, but further to that it exposed the fact that miliband has no issues regarding who he'll trample on while climbing the ladder, including you and me.
Trample on! Why should he have not competed against his brother for a leadership competition?2)He didnt do it in a morally acceptable manner, but then morals arent exactly any politicians strongpoint, especially when it comes to getting to the top to take a dump on those below.....even ones brother is expendable.
This version of Mr Ed the Talking Horse can be a bit repetitive.
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2011/jul/01/ed...
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2011/jul/...
groucho said:
That video of Wallace speaking about strikes. Seriously, WTF? My short term memory is better than that when I'm slashed up. This bloke has no place in politics. I think his level is McDonalds.
I think if I were running the Tory election marketing campaign I'd probably make that youtube clip my last party political broadcast, the night before the election.When it finishes, fade to black screen with the following typed onto the screen (in old typewrite font/accompanying audio):
Think before you vote,
before we're broke.
(In the same manner as the old think before you drink, before you drive advert).
I reckon that'd learn 'ee.
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