Who will you be voting for in the General election?

[anarki]

andy43 said:

Alyessa is voting Labour.
Good plan Alyessa

I honestly don't know what to say.

[anonymous-user]

LucreLout said:

They don't need a majority, just coalition power. This time they'll vote the boundary changes BEFORE the junior partners pet bill, thus ensuring they cant undemocratically toss the toys from the pram.

I'm far from convinced anyone so staggeringly naive as to have their pants pulled down by a shower of tards like the LibDems is fit for Government!

[Bradgate]

I will vote either Labour or Lib Dem, whichever has the best chance of unseating the incumbent Tory in my constituency.

I'm a liberal lefty, with emphasis firmly on the 'liberal'. I support policies which would create a much fairer, much more equal society, along the lines of a Scandinavian style social democracy.

[Esseesse]

Bradgate said:

I support policies which would create a much fairer, much more equal society

In your opinion, contentious.

[s2art]

Bradgate said:

I support policies which would create a much fairer, much more equal society, along the lines of a Scandinavian style social democracy.

Such as?

[Du1point8]

s2art said:

Bradgate said:

I support policies which would create a much fairer, much more equal society, along the lines of a Scandinavian style social democracy.

Such as?

Not spending money and having surplus for a rainy day, everyone having full salary pensions, decent education system, not having healthcare tourism, etc...

Oh wait... Im doing this wrong aren't I?

Thats what would should have, not what gets done every time labour is in power...

My bad.

[Chlamydia]

Bradgate said:

I will vote either Labour or Lib Dem, whichever has the best chance of unseating the incumbent Tory in my constituency.

I'm a liberal lefty, with emphasis firmly on the 'liberal'. I support policies which would create a much fairer, much more equal society, along the lines of a Scandinavian style social democracy.

Satire?

[Bradgate]

s2art said:

Such as?

This sort of thing :

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nordic_model

Seems to work OK : GDP per capita 2013 (source : IMF)
Denmark $59k
Sweden $58k
Finland $49k
UK $39k

[Bradgate]

Chlamydia said:

Satire?

Possibly.

But in the absence of the Scandis coming over here and teaching us how to create a better, fairer society, a Labour Lib Dem coalition is probably the best we can realistically hope for.

[Bradgate]

Esseesse said:

In your opinion, contentious.

Politics is, by definition, contentious.

[Bradgate]

Du1point8 said:

Not spending money and having surplus for a rainy day, everyone having full salary pensions, decent education system, not having healthcare tourism, etc...

Oh wait... Im doing this wrong aren't I?

Thats what would should have, not what gets done every time labour is in power...

My bad.

Fair point, sadly.

[StevieBee]

Bradgate said:

I support policies which would create a much fairer, much more equal society, along the lines of a Scandinavian style social democracy.

Nice idea but the reality is far from ideal. Lots of problems, big ones, beginning to surface in that part of the world with growing popularity of the far right and a brain-drain as the bright kids study in Sweden then go live and work where they get paid more and pay less in tax, which is leading to an influx of foreign skills which is further stoking the far right supporters.

[Du1point8]

StevieBee said:

Bradgate said:

I support policies which would create a much fairer, much more equal society, along the lines of a Scandinavian style social democracy.

Nice idea but the reality is far from ideal. Lots of problems, big ones, beginning to surface in that part of the world with growing popularity of the far right and a brain-drain as the bright kids study in Sweden then go live and work where they get paid more and pay less in tax, which is leading to an influx of foreign skills which is further stoking the far right supporters.

Not forgetting the Norwegian model means the you are never better than your counterpart, this has been drilled into their heads so much that they are brainwashed, so there is no real ambition to succeed over there, no one goes the extra mile as there is no reward, owning a successful business is near impossible as you can't start one from scratch.

Its like one big public sector, once it hits 5pm, everyone fks off within 5 minutes...

One of the telling signs would be to work out what the last real life changing discoveries or inventions that came out of that place? Or even looking at the 3 countries as a whole its difficult to get past a dozen world famous companies between them.

[s2art]

Bradgate said:

s2art said:

Such as?

This sort of thing :

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nordic_model

Seems to work OK : GDP per capita 2013 (source : IMF)
Denmark $59k
Sweden $58k
Finland $49k
UK $39k

But what actual policies do you reckon caused that?

[Chlamydia]

Bradgate said:

Chlamydia said:

Satire?

Possibly.

But in the absence of the Scandis coming over here and teaching us how to create a better, fairer society, a Labour Lib Dem coalition is probably the best we can realistically hope for.

Well fair enough if that's what you believe, but what stopped Labour doing any of this when they were in power? And given that they didn't do it, what makes you think they will now?

[Du1point8]

Chlamydia said:

Bradgate said:

Chlamydia said:

Satire?

Possibly.

But in the absence of the Scandis coming over here and teaching us how to create a better, fairer society, a Labour Lib Dem coalition is probably the best we can realistically hope for.

Well fair enough if that's what you believe, but what stopped Labour doing any of this when they were in power? And given that they didn't do it, what makes you think they will now?

Because they have changed and learned from their mistakes... they won't do it again honest!!

Some people just believe it no matter of what the track record, like they can't think for themselves or look at what they will get given by Labour as a freebie for voting for them.

See too many Labour supporters screaming at me that they are better for the UK as Tories are evil, yet don't have a constructive argument with evidence to back it up, when shown evidence to the contrary, they claim propaganda BS or its by a rich tory mate...

Best they can come up with is some BS about how a Tory MP once did something bad and therefore they are all evil, or they just resort to blaming Maggie.

[McWigglebum4th]

Bradgate said:

I will vote either Labour or Lib Dem, whichever has the best chance of unseating the incumbent Tory in my constituency.

I'm a liberal lefty, with emphasis firmly on the 'liberal'. I support policies which would create a much fairer, much more equal society, along the lines of a Scandinavian style social democracy.

Fair and equal taken to its logical conclusion

Work your arse off and never earn a penny more then someone on the dole


Why work?

[otolith]

s2art said:

Bradgate said:

s2art said:

Such as?

This sort of thing :

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nordic_model

Seems to work OK : GDP per capita 2013 (source : IMF)
Denmark $59k
Sweden $58k
Finland $49k
UK $39k

But what actual policies do you reckon caused that?

I don't think the Scandinavian model is a result of government. I think it's the result of a collectivist culture - a culture we don't generally share. That culture is not without downsides.

If people want to live in that kind of society, why not just move there?

[Bradgate]

otolith said:

I don't think the Scandinavian model is a result of government. I think it's the result of a collectivist culture - a culture we don't generally share. That culture is not without downsides.

If people want to live in that kind of society, why not just move there?

The governments of Scandinavian countries are a fundamental constituent part of the collectivist, egalitarian, classless culture. They are one and the same.

The "Why not move there? " question could perhaps better be directed to right-wing free market Thatcherites. Might they not find Texas more to their liking than the UK?

[otolith]

Bradgate said:

otolith said:

I don't think the Scandinavian model is a result of government. I think it's the result of a collectivist culture - a culture we don't generally share. That culture is not without downsides.

If people want to live in that kind of society, why not just move there?

The governments of Scandinavian countries are a fundamental constituent part of the collectivist, egalitarian, classless culture. They are one and the same.

The "Why not move there? " question could perhaps better be directed to right-wing free market Thatcherites. Might they not find Texas more to their liking than the UK?

I think the style of government is a result of the culture, not vice-versa.

You have a right to live in Denmark, Finland and Sweden. Unfortunately, that isn't true of the US.