Should England's money be spent in Scotland?
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Money flows in different directions for different things.
London gets more public money per head spent on it's infrastructure than the rest of England combined (>10x more perhead than the SW and 24x that in the NE!) and and with further investment in more crossrail and HS2 leading into London that's only going to continue.
The thing I don't get is-if the mansion tax makes it more expensive to live in the south east and people can't afford it then people will leave, decreasing demand and dropping prices?
London gets more public money per head spent on it's infrastructure than the rest of England combined (>10x more perhead than the SW and 24x that in the NE!) and and with further investment in more crossrail and HS2 leading into London that's only going to continue.
The thing I don't get is-if the mansion tax makes it more expensive to live in the south east and people can't afford it then people will leave, decreasing demand and dropping prices?
arp1 said:
I am deeply proud of my nation and that happens to be Scotland. My views stem from growing up seeing the inequality we suffer and have suffered over the years. Independence is my ultimate goal but for now I would settle for a larger voice in parliament to press scotlands needs on a national level.
If I lived in England I would still be a nationalist I'm quite sure, and for different reasons.
So, if not a Brit Nat what are you?
I'm not sure you grasp what nationalism is to be honest. Either that or you don't want to admit your a bigot.If I lived in England I would still be a nationalist I'm quite sure, and for different reasons.
So, if not a Brit Nat what are you?
Still I like the use of the word "Suffer" I suspect you wouldn't know suffer if I wrote it on a plank of wood and smacked you over the head with it.
1st world problems! The travesty.
Oh and I suspect some of the nats on here have looked at the title of the thread and got themselves all angry again. If you read the thread you may see its quite reasonable. As are most of the replies.
Edinburger said:
Hang on a sec, what do you mean by "milking the rest of us"?
Do you know how much tax is raised in Scotland, England or anywhere else?
I live in Edinburgh and work for a company based in the City of London. My income tax is paid via a City of London tax office and not a Scottish one.
Here's a shocker for you - no one seems to know exactly how much tax is raised in different parts of the UK. Fact. That was very apparent during the run-up to the referendum.
Did you ask your MP for a "single sensible reason why... should want to keep Scotland in the Union"? because we all saw how they panicked when the polls were getting closer.
There's a number of damn good reasons for that.
This whole question of "Should England's money be spent in Scotland" is ludicrous because there is no "England's money".
Not sure you are being serious or taking the piss. Do you know how much tax is raised in Scotland, England or anywhere else?
I live in Edinburgh and work for a company based in the City of London. My income tax is paid via a City of London tax office and not a Scottish one.
Here's a shocker for you - no one seems to know exactly how much tax is raised in different parts of the UK. Fact. That was very apparent during the run-up to the referendum.
Did you ask your MP for a "single sensible reason why... should want to keep Scotland in the Union"? because we all saw how they panicked when the polls were getting closer.
There's a number of damn good reasons for that.
This whole question of "Should England's money be spent in Scotland" is ludicrous because there is no "England's money".
Scotland is finding out right now who qualifies and who doesn't for the extra tax rising powers which are coming to Scptland as agreed on Burns night.
At the referendum they didn't know exactly but did within acceptable levels of sensitivity analysis - thankfully now Scottish oil is as dead as a dead duck that's utterly killed the Indy arguement or if it hasn't anyone with any brain who is still preaching Indy has some vested interest in being an utter moron destroying people lives
Welshbeef said:
Not sure you are being serious or taking the piss.
Scotland is finding out right now who qualifies and who doesn't for the extra tax rising powers which are coming to Scptland as agreed on Burns night.
At the referendum they didn't know exactly but did within acceptable levels of sensitivity analysis - thankfully now Scottish oil is as dead as a dead duck that's utterly killed the Indy arguement or if it hasn't anyone with any brain who is still preaching Indy has some vested interest in being an utter moron destroying people lives
I've worked in the oil industry for almost 20 years. It has been significantly worse many times over that 20 years.Scotland is finding out right now who qualifies and who doesn't for the extra tax rising powers which are coming to Scptland as agreed on Burns night.
At the referendum they didn't know exactly but did within acceptable levels of sensitivity analysis - thankfully now Scottish oil is as dead as a dead duck that's utterly killed the Indy arguement or if it hasn't anyone with any brain who is still preaching Indy has some vested interest in being an utter moron destroying people lives
It goes up and down quite regularly and most people are used to how it works. It's only the people outside the industry that get shocked.
It's nowhere near as bad as you seem to think and some people want to make you believe.
Give it another year and the how expensive is petrol threads will be rife.
simoid said:
Kermit power said:
simoid said:
Which is why it's such a shame that the nationalists have galvanised their minority support and appear to be attempting ransom negotiations, while ensuring they tarnish the reputation of Scotland as a whole.
Hopefully the likes of Kermit Power will remember that they are a minority when all is said and done.
How do you know I'm in a minority? Unlike the Scots, we didn't get to vote in the referendum. I suspect if we had, the result may have been somewhat different.Hopefully the likes of Kermit Power will remember that they are a minority when all is said and done.
I suspect that you're well into the realms of baseless speculation
Driver101 said:
I've worked in the oil industry for almost 20 years. It has been significantly worse many times over that 20 years.
It goes up and down quite regularly and most people are used to how it works. It's only the people outside the industry that get shocked.
It's nowhere near as bad as you seem to think and some people want to make you believe.
Give it another year and the how expensive is petrol threads will be rife.
Well, at least we've not gambled a country on oil prices It goes up and down quite regularly and most people are used to how it works. It's only the people outside the industry that get shocked.
It's nowhere near as bad as you seem to think and some people want to make you believe.
Give it another year and the how expensive is petrol threads will be rife.
Oil is a bonus remember, so we would have banked it when the going was good and an 'oil fund' (which mps are now saying should be set up) - duh a bit late! Look at what other oil producting nations have managed to do... But hey, westminister knows best don't they... Give me strength! You go on about nats being delusional, look at the unionist drivel!
arp1 said:
Oil is a bonus remember, so we would have banked it when the going was good and an 'oil fund' (which mps are now saying should be set up) - duh a bit late! Look at what other oil producting nations have managed to do... But hey, westminister knows best don't they... Give me strength! You go on about nats being delusional, look at the unionist drivel!
There's no point setting up an 'oil fund' when your outgoings exceed your income. It's like someone ensuring they pay £500 a month into their ISA while they've got £6k on high-interest credit card balances. Unless you can make more money in interest than you're paying out on exiting debt then it makes no sense at all.arp1 said:
As for spending more than we make that case is not proven, and since we voted no we can't find out for sure until a yes happens.
That's a massive gamble then isn't it. As a businessman I'm pretty sure that if one of my team pitched that to me as a plan I'm pretty sure I wouldn't be signing it off.arp1 said:
That's the problem with this country, business leaders running the country, mps in their pocket and not paying enough if any tax!
Not sure I agree on that point, I'd rather the country was run by business leaders than populists with no idea about economics and risk. If you want to see what happens when a left leaning populist government runs a country and makes decisions based on what they think is a good idea as opposed to what makes financial sense take a look at Venezuela.Gassing Station | News, Politics & Economics | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff