Should England's money be spent in Scotland?

[simoid]

arp1 said:

Oil is a bonus remember, so we would have banked it when the going was good and an 'oil fund' (which mps are now saying should be set up) - duh a bit late! Look at what other oil producting nations have managed to do... But hey, westminister knows best don't they... Give me strength! You go on about nats being delusional, look at the unionist drivel!

Surely trolling moaning about 'austerity' on the one hand while saying spending should've been lower on the other. No reasonable person could post that.

You're just giving Scotland a bad name as people are taking you seriously

[McWigglebum4th]

arp1 said:

Oh ffs bile yer heid ya dobber!

Care to point out the government policy saying scottish currency should not be accepted in england?

[Moonhawk]

mikal83 said:

McWigglebum4th said:

Care to point out the government policy saying scottish currency should not be accepted in england?

Common sense...is that a policy. Try spending poonds here. Sorry sir, we don't take jockenese money...etc.

It's more out of self preservation. Scottish money is far from common in most areas of the UK outside Scotland.......therefore staff will likely be less familiar with it and therefore less able to spot a forgery.

Shops that do have a policy of not accepting Scottish banknotes have probably been stung in the past.

I can't remember the last time I saw a Scottish note - even whilst holidaying in Scotland.

[McWigglebum4th]

Moonhawk said:

mikal83 said:

McWigglebum4th said:

Care to point out the government policy saying scottish currency should not be accepted in england?

Common sense...is that a policy. Try spending poonds here. Sorry sir, we don't take jockenese money...etc.

It's more out of self preservation. Scottish money is far from common in most areas of the UK outside Scotland.......therefore staff will likely be less familiar with it and therefore less able to spot a forgery.

Shops that do have a policy of not accepting Scottish banknotes have probably been stung in the past.

I can't remember the last time I saw a Scottish note - even whilst holidaying in Scotland.

I understand why shop assistants in englandshire don't take scottish notes

Does the nationalist?

No he sees it as a form of oppression against the scots

[Edinburger]

Moonhawk said:

It's more out of self preservation. Scottish money is far from common in most areas of the UK outside Scotland.......therefore staff will likely be less familiar with it and therefore less able to spot a forgery.

Shops that do have a policy of not accepting Scottish banknotes have probably been stung in the past.

I can't remember the last time I saw a Scottish note - even whilst holidaying in Scotland.

Really? Didn't you use cash?

English notes are not rare here but certainly in the minority.

[mikal83]

Edinburger said:

Really? Didn't you use cash?

English notes are not rare here but certainly in the minority.

Minority v non existant!

[Moonhawk]

Edinburger said:

Really? Didn't you use cash?

English notes are not rare here but certainly in the minority.

Yes I did - but whether it was because it was a touristy area or whatever - any change I got was in 'proper money'

[Edinburger]

Moonhawk said:

Yes I did - but whether it was because it was a touristy area or whatever - any change I got was in 'proper money'

Contrary to what was said above, I don't have a lot of hassle with Northern Irish and Scottish notes in London.

Maybe different in other 'regions' though!

[McWigglebum4th]

Edinburger said:

Contrary to what was said above, I don't have a lot of hassle with Northern Irish and Scottish notes in London.

Maybe different in other 'regions' though!

London as a touristy and popular business area is more likely to see scottish notes so they are familiar


Other areas of englandshire won't be as likely to see them hence they will be more hesitant

[Kermit power]

arp1 said:

Oil is a bonus remember, so we would have banked it when the going was good and an 'oil fund' (which mps are now saying should be set up) - duh a bit late! Look at what other oil producting nations have managed to do... But hey, westminister knows best don't they... Give me strength! You go on about nats being delusional, look at the unionist drivel!

Have you actually taken a look at the volume of oil and gas reserves per head of population in the countries which have sovereign wealth funds off the back of it? Have you compared it to the UK ratio?

It's hardly surprising the likes of the UAE, Qatar and Norway could build up massive funds given that they're absolutely swimming in the stuff compared to the UK.

As for moaning about the UK being run by businessmen, would you prefer it to be run by a bunch of backwards-thinking religious extremists?

[simoid]

Kermit power said:

arp1 said:

Oil is a bonus remember, so we would have banked it when the going was good and an 'oil fund' (which mps are now saying should be set up) - duh a bit late! Look at what other oil producting nations have managed to do... But hey, westminister knows best don't they... Give me strength! You go on about nats being delusional, look at the unionist drivel!

Have you actually taken a look at the volume of oil and gas reserves per head of population in the countries which have sovereign wealth funds off the back of it? Have you compared it to the UK ratio?

It's hardly surprising the likes of the UAE, Qatar and Norway could build up massive funds given that they're absolutely swimming in the stuff compared to the UK.

As for moaning about the UK being run by businessmen, would you prefer it to be run by a bunch of backwards-thinking religious extremists?

He's perfectly aware, and he's just winding you up. The cybernats are delighted that they're no longer falling on deaf ears as the English are becoming aware of them.

[Kermit power]

simoid said:

He's perfectly aware, and he's just winding you up. The cybernats are delighted that they're no longer falling on deaf ears as the English are becoming aware of them.

What winds me up is that they're so inept at campaigning!

I would've been delighted if the Scots had voted for independence, but sadly we'll have to wait a while longer.

[arp1]

So having a different view and opinion is a bad thing nowadays?

[NicD]

Kermit power said:

What winds me up is that they're so inept at campaigning!

I would've been delighted if the Scots had voted for independence, but sadly we'll have to wait a while longer.

+ 1!!

[///ajd]

jamiebae said:

arp1 said:

Oil is a bonus remember, so we would have banked it when the going was good and an 'oil fund' (which mps are now saying should be set up) - duh a bit late! Look at what other oil producting nations have managed to do... But hey, westminister knows best don't they... Give me strength! You go on about nats being delusional, look at the unionist drivel!

There's no point setting up an 'oil fund' when your outgoings exceed your income. It's like someone ensuring they pay £500 a month into their ISA while they've got £6k on high-interest credit card balances. Unless you can make more money in interest than you're paying out on exiting debt then it makes no sense at all.

On an economically illiterate muppet would propose such a thing.

Ah yes, I see the problem.

To suggest "we don't know if Scotland would have spent more that it earned" is plumbing new depths of blinkered ignorance I'm afraid. Just wow.

[NicD]

///ajd said:

On an economically illiterate muppet would propose such a thing.

Ah yes, I see the problem.

To suggest "we don't know if Scotland would have spent more that it earned" is plumbing new depths of blinkered ignorance I'm afraid. Just wow.

No person or country KNOWS what it has spent till the end of the period when all the bills are in.
Till then its only an estimate.
And we can see how useless they are with their oil income estimates.

[Troubleatmill]

It is one thing to say "We pool our resources - and we distribute the money based on need."

It is quite another to say "We have found a tax that purely targets those in the South East - and all the money is coming up North"

[Grumfutock]

To answer the title. No, never ever. It is English money and should be spent on the English. Let them spend their own money.

[HarryW]

I dislike the devisive nature and division brought about to the UK's thinking by the likes of the SNP. All taxes raised within the UK are the UK's to be distributed as needed, that's the point of being United.
Should the Scottish assembly use it to further its own political aims particularly At the expense of other areas, probably not. Does this now mean the Barnet formula will need revisiting, most probably. The result of that will probably identify the temporary formula is outdated and no longer relevant. Will that revision be seen as anti Scotish, probably, but only if you chose to spin it that way. As far as the SNP will be concerned if that happens it's lose/win, lose some money but step a lot closer to independence, job jobbed.

[Welshbeef]

arp1 said:

Oil is a bonus remember, so we would have banked it when the going was good and an 'oil fund' (which mps are now saying should be set up) - duh a bit late! Look at what other oil producting nations have managed to do... But hey, westminister knows best don't they... Give me strength! You go on about nats being delusional, look at the unionist drivel!

It is, however the country wouldn't have accepted much higher taxes or lower spending. Given that was the case the what would have been oil fund creation plugged the gap. But it wasn't.

Let's say normalised it should bring in £6billion a year .... Now what would you cut or would you up income tax by 3-5%? Hmm