Should England's money be spent in Scotland?

Should England's money be spent in Scotland?

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speedy_thrills

7,760 posts

244 months

Wednesday 1st April 2015
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The money has long since been spent...and then some more. Unlike our friends in Norway we embraced greed.

Sway

26,290 posts

195 months

Wednesday 1st April 2015
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So did Norway.

They have a national debt easily the size of the oil fund. Seems mental to have the cash in the bank earning next to nothing whilst paying interest on a debt...

Plus of course they have stonkingly high tax rates, something we've never been too keen on.

Comparing what Norway has done (or Qatar or the UAE) with the UK is silly. The cultures and structures are just too different.

arp1

583 posts

128 months

Wednesday 1st April 2015
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With us being a multicultural society these days then should we not embrace other ways of thinking etc and make things work better as opposed to ploughing on the way we always have done?

Kermit power

28,671 posts

214 months

Wednesday 1st April 2015
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speedy_thrills said:
The money has long since been spent...and then some more. Unlike our friends in Norway we embraced greed.
Have you ever heard of a thing called Maths?

The UK has so far extracted 40Bn barrels of oil. I haven't got time to find the exact number for Norway now. It's a bit higher, but not really enough for it to matter for the purposes of this discussion.

Norway has a population of 5 million people. The UK has a population of around 64 million.

In other words, the Norwegians have had more than 12 times as much oil reveue per capita as we have, and that's before we even begin to look at Gas, where they massively outstrip our reserves.

Your claim that we've embraced greed compared to the Norwegians is like saying a family of twelve is greedier than a single person because they've finished a dozen donuts between them but the single person has only eaten six.

McWigglebum4th

32,414 posts

205 months

Wednesday 1st April 2015
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arp1 said:
With us being a multicultural society these days then should we not embrace other ways of thinking etc and make things work better as opposed to ploughing on the way we always have done?
Sounds like a plan

Lets stop giving money to the feckless

Grumfutock

5,274 posts

166 months

Wednesday 1st April 2015
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McWigglebum4th said:
arp1 said:
With us being a multicultural society these days then should we not embrace other ways of thinking etc and make things work better as opposed to ploughing on the way we always have done?
Sounds like a plan

Lets stop giving money to the feckless
And India etc!

Guybrush

4,351 posts

207 months

Wednesday 1st April 2015
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That looney left scotch SNP woman wants to remove the benefits cap limit wobble who's going to pay for that? silly

jamiebae

6,245 posts

212 months

Wednesday 1st April 2015
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arp1 said:
With us being a multicultural society these days then should we not embrace other ways of thinking etc and make things work better as opposed to ploughing on the way we always have done?
What has that got to do with being multicultural?!

Absolutely we should constantly be trying to think of new ways to make things better, but only if they are actually expected to make things better and not just somebody's hunch it might work in spite of the evidence to the contrary, which seems to be the SNP way.


Rick_1138

3,683 posts

179 months

Wednesday 1st April 2015
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McWigglebum4th said:
arp1 said:
With us being a multicultural society these days then should we not embrace other ways of thinking etc and make things work better as opposed to ploughing on the way we always have done?
Sounds like a plan

Lets stop giving money to the feckless
Sadly not....

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3019984/Sc...

Sway

26,290 posts

195 months

Wednesday 1st April 2015
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arp1 said:
With us being a multicultural society these days then should we not embrace other ways of thinking etc and make things work better as opposed to ploughing on the way we always have done?
We could, yes.

Of course we've already tried Monarchial dictatorships, privileged sufferage etc., so perhaps the Qatar/UAE approach isn't worthwhile.

As for high taxation, an oil fund and an equivalent debt, well we could indeed give that a go. If people want it, they'll vote for it. They're not.

IainT

10,040 posts

239 months

Wednesday 1st April 2015
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Emeye said:
Living in the north west - it seems apparent we need some of this money, the place is falling apart - driving to work avoiding potholes is very tiring.
One of these days Congleton and Macclesfield are going to fall into one big pothole and disappear.

arp1

583 posts

128 months

Wednesday 1st April 2015
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North-west, what, Skye? Ullapool?

McWigglebum4th

32,414 posts

205 months

Wednesday 1st April 2015
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arp1 said:
North-west, what, Skye? Ullapool?
Are you being oppressed again?

IainT

10,040 posts

239 months

Wednesday 1st April 2015
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arp1 said:
North-west, what, Skye? Ullapool?
Deliberate thickness or genuinely stupid?

Rude-boy

22,227 posts

234 months

Wednesday 1st April 2015
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Lost soul said:
Emeye said:
Living in the north west - it seems apparent we need some of this money, the place is falling apart - driving to work avoiding potholes is very tiring.
Same in the south east
Went over to Worcestershire at the weekend.

I shall not be complaining about the state of Suffolk roads for quite some time...

arp1

583 posts

128 months

Thursday 2nd April 2015
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IainT said:
arp1 said:
North-west, what, Skye? Ullapool?
Deliberate thickness or genuinely stupid?
Explain? We are one country after all so get your geography correct please...

simoid

19,772 posts

159 months

Thursday 2nd April 2015
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arp1 said:
IainT said:
arp1 said:
North-west, what, Skye? Ullapool?
Deliberate thickness or genuinely stupid?
Explain? We are one country after all so get your geography correct please...
Looks like the former, IainT. I suppose it's a refreshing change.

McWigglebum4th

32,414 posts

205 months

Thursday 2nd April 2015
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McWigglebum4th said:
arp1 said:
North-west, what, Skye? Ullapool?
Are you being oppressed again?
I guessed right again

arp1

583 posts

128 months

Thursday 2nd April 2015
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You can't have it all ways in afraid

McWigglebum4th

32,414 posts

205 months

Thursday 2nd April 2015
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arp1 said:
You can't have it all ways in afraid
But when I said that during the referendum you lot screamed scaremongering