Should England's money be spent in Scotland?

Should England's money be spent in Scotland?

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Halb

53,012 posts

183 months

Saturday 28th March 2015
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dazwalsh said:
You can blame King James the sixth for all this mess.
Or Mel Gibson.

Edinburger

10,403 posts

168 months

Saturday 28th March 2015
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///ajd said:
Yes in principle as we are one Nation, but as above the abuse of the budget to promote inequality by the SNP should be stopped - e.g. divisive / anti-English tuiton fee policy.



Edited by ///ajd on Saturday 28th March 15:59
rolleyes

But you know it isn't an anti-English policy.

Why spread malicious lies?

CAFEDEAD

222 posts

115 months

Saturday 28th March 2015
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There's a difference between spending tax money where its needed most and raising taxes from people just because they live in a more expensive locality. Doing both at the same time is particularly mean spirited, but par for the course when it comes to Labour.

///ajd

8,964 posts

206 months

Saturday 28th March 2015
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Edinburger said:
I thought we were all one nation?

What next - tax raised from Cornish pasties to stay in Cornwall? Tax raised from Scottish oil to stay in Scotland? Tax raised from Newcastle Brown Ale to stay in Newcastle?


Its stupid isn't it!!

So, about calling yourself a Nationalist? Yes/No?



PS You keep defending the SNP uni fees policy - how are they going to pay for their unis it when it costs them 2-5x as much as the rUK gives them in the block grant?



McWigglebum4th

32,414 posts

204 months

Saturday 28th March 2015
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Edinburger said:
Tax raised from Scottish oil to stay in Scotland?
I thought that was the SNP plan


eccles

13,733 posts

222 months

Saturday 28th March 2015
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What a strange thread title! What is Englands' money? Surely it come from all parts of the UK, or is the just the English bit that gets spent in Scotland?

Sway

26,275 posts

194 months

Saturday 28th March 2015
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eccles said:
What a strange thread title! What is Englands' money? Surely it come from all parts of the UK, or is the just the English bit that gets spent in Scotland?
Read the OP.

The mansion tax will pretty much only apply in the South East, at least in percentage terms. I'd certainly say that over 80% would be a fair estimate.

The Scottish Labour party have 'claimed' a proportion of that in order to improve the 'in crisis' Scottish NHS, and Jim Murphy has campaigned the mansion tax as a way for Scottish voters to 'claim' additional wealth transfer from the rich South East to Scotland.

Hence very bloody relevant.

Especially seeing as the reason the Scottish NHS is in trouble is because the Scottish parliament has decided to spend the cash elsewhere - most obviously with free uni tuition, but also within the NHS itself via free prescriptions.

CtrlAltDel

50 posts

148 months

Saturday 28th March 2015
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Stop spending England's money you sweaty porridge jocks, when are the English going to get a referendum ?!? Bloody kick those haggis savages to the kerb, etc.

/ph.

Am I doing this right?.

Edited by CtrlAltDel on Saturday 28th March 19:36

Welshbeef

49,633 posts

198 months

Saturday 28th March 2015
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///ajd said:


Its stupid isn't it!!

So, about calling yourself a Nationalist? Yes/No?



PS You keep defending the SNP uni fees policy - how are they going to pay for their unis it when it costs them 2-5x as much as the rUK gives them in the block grant?
And this is what the SNP fears centrally reduced spend means less for their little projects but no they don't want to raise tax to pay for it or borrow it under Scotland's name... Wonder why.



UK govt being very smart and gradually unloading the central govt loans making the regions re raise the loans in Wales NIre England and Scotland so IF they have the bright idea if even suggesting walking away from the debt well they cannot they own the debt directly they raised it.
Very smart move indeed.

4v6

1,098 posts

126 months

Saturday 28th March 2015
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CtrlAltDel said:
Stop spending England's money you sweaty porridge jocks

/ph.

Am I doing this right?
laugh



anonymous-user

54 months

Saturday 28th March 2015
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civicduty said:
No - Looking forward to when England can have a referendum to get rid of Scotland.
This will be the only benefit of the forthcoming Labour/SNP coalition .
Next time around it will destroy labour (similar to Lib Dems now) and the majority of English will happily wave goodbye (like they would have before if given the opportunity)

Skii

1,630 posts

191 months

Saturday 28th March 2015
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CtrlAltDel said:
Stop spending England's money you sweaty porridge jocks, when are the English going to get a referendum ?!? Bloody kick those haggis savages to the kerb, etc.

/ph.

Am I doing this right?.

Edited by CtrlAltDel on Saturday 28th March 19:36
Yes.

anonymous-user

54 months

Saturday 28th March 2015
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Is it too late for the Conservatives to add another Scottish Independence vote to their manifesto ?
Definate vote winner both sides of the border!

mccrackenj

2,041 posts

226 months

Saturday 28th March 2015
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Tannedbaldhead said:
The Scottish Parliament only has the power to distribute funding allocated by the UK Parliament.
Simply not true. They have the power, and have it for several years now, to raise income tax by up to 3p, but they prefer not to do that and to whinge instead.

xjsdriver

1,071 posts

121 months

Saturday 28th March 2015
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richie99 said:
I thought the Scottish claim is they contribute more par capita to the exchequer than the English so they have no need of our dirty Sassenach money.

You might equally claim that we should spend more money where it would deliver the most economic impact. Not saying that we should but that is just as good an argument as yours. Why would we want to subsidise the lifestyle choices of people who wish to live in isolated places.

Like many others in England, I just wanted Scotland to vote in favour of independence and just go away. You are entirely mistaken that a majority on here favoured the union. My only condition would be that the remaining UK would have to be protected from an inevitably bankrupt Scotland coming begging back in a few years time for the rest of us to foot the bill.

Edited by richie99 on Saturday 28th March 15:54
I think the mistake is entirely of your own making - the majority of posters on here are of a right-wing bent - some ferociously so - in fact, so much so they come across as raving bellends who will brook no further discussion if someone else has the temerity to challenge their political viewpoint.
As for Scotland's spending it's been under control for the last two parliaments.

As for your view on those who wish to live in isolated places. Simply risible - we could mention isolated places in England, Wales and Northern Ireland too - do you have a problem with them too, or it is just the Scots?

London has to be a prime case of what not to do in future town planning.

Welshbeef

49,633 posts

198 months

Saturday 28th March 2015
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xjsdriver said:
I think the mistake is entirely of your own making - the majority of posters on here are of a right-wing bent - some ferociously so - in fact, so much so they come across as raving bellends who will brook no further discussion if someone else has the temerity to challenge their political viewpoint.
As for Scotland's spending it's been under control for the last two parliaments.

As for your view on those who wish to live in isolated places. Simply risible - we could mention isolated places in England, Wales and Northern Ireland too - do you have a problem with them too, or it is just the Scots?

London has to be a prime case of what not to do in future town planning.
LOL London is a city with history dating back 1000 years we don't bulldoze that legacy & culture to simply make planning easier....

xjsdriver

1,071 posts

121 months

Saturday 28th March 2015
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Edinburger said:
McWigglebum4th said:
No doudt a nat will be along soon to tell us that you are all dole living scum or millionaire bankers who are all living off scottish oil


I would like to say


Nats are fking morons

Edited by McWigglebum4th on Saturday 28th March 16:15
Have you got a semi now you've found another thread to repeat the same old Wiggley nonsense?
Nurse, Nurse, Wibbles has got out of his cage AGAIN!!!!

Edinburger

10,403 posts

168 months

Saturday 28th March 2015
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eccles said:
What a strange thread title! What is Englands' money? Surely it come from all parts of the UK, or is the just the English bit that gets spent in Scotland?
Exactly. There is no "England's money". It all goes into the UK pot.


Welshbeef

49,633 posts

198 months

Saturday 28th March 2015
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Edinburger said:
Exactly. There is no "England's money". It all goes into the UK pot.
Normally not but in QT last week the labour chap stated the new tax ok Mansions will mean SE money will flow into Scotland as in what's not to like about it. He even joked about it.

Burger what's annoying is that you refuse to comment on my post where it clearly stated SNP elected to set up free Uni fees at the cost of the Scottish NHS. You seem pleased that is the case or actually you want free Uni places AND that money added back into NHS... Why? Its not fair.

xjsdriver

1,071 posts

121 months

Saturday 28th March 2015
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Welshbeef said:
xjsdriver said:
I think the mistake is entirely of your own making - the majority of posters on here are of a right-wing bent - some ferociously so - in fact, so much so they come across as raving bellends who will brook no further discussion if someone else has the temerity to challenge their political viewpoint.
As for Scotland's spending it's been under control for the last two parliaments.

As for your view on those who wish to live in isolated places. Simply risible - we could mention isolated places in England, Wales and Northern Ireland too - do you have a problem with them too, or it is just the Scots?

London has to be a prime case of what not to do in future town planning.
Actually it dates back to 47 AD, but don't let details like that put you off your stride. London became an unwieldy mess in the latter half of the 20th century, which can be put down to poor planning and lack of foresight. Successive governments of left and right political persuasion have done bugger all to alleviate the situation.


LOL London is a city with history dating back 1000 years we don't bulldoze that legacy & culture to simply make planning easier....