The looney left

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Yazar

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1,476 posts

120 months

Saturday 28th March 2015
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Are outraged that we are asking 'undocumented migrants' and tourists to pay for NHS treatment...

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/nhs-...

nyxster

1,452 posts

171 months

Saturday 28th March 2015
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We have to have health insurance fir just about every other country on the planet. They wouldn't get free healthcare in the USA, and we wouldn't get free healthcare in Nigeria, so why are we being singled out for applying the same policy other countries implement?

anonymous-user

54 months

Saturday 28th March 2015
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Thats because they feel obligated to spend other peoples money, doesn't matter what they spend it on but spend and keep spending, they'll just leave a note telling the next lot there isn't anything left and wish them luck.

The last bit is a bit of advanced thinking because the next lot may have found a bit of money that can be spent in the future.

xjsdriver

1,071 posts

121 months

Saturday 28th March 2015
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gottans said:
Thats because they feel obligated to spend other peoples money, doesn't matter what they spend it on but spend and keep spending, they'll just leave a note telling the next lot there isn't anything left and wish them luck.

The last bit is a bit of advanced thinking because the next lot may have found a bit of money that can be spent in the future.
Or the next lot may be even less truthful about the state of state finances, like the whopper of a line that the deficit would be a thing of the past come the next election.....Anyone remember that particular cracker from five years ago?

s2art

18,937 posts

253 months

Saturday 28th March 2015
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xjsdriver said:
Or the next lot may be even less truthful about the state of state finances, like the whopper of a line that the deficit would be a thing of the past come the next election.....Anyone remember that particular cracker from five years ago?
They tried, they failed. Heart in the right place though. Nobody guessed the Eurozone crisis would run on so long. An official from the USA Fed said; 'who could have guessed that the Europeans would just flail around for three years?'

anonymous-user

54 months

Saturday 28th March 2015
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s2art said:
They tried, they failed. Heart in the right place though.
Is that what you really meant?

s2art

18,937 posts

253 months

Sunday 29th March 2015
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desolate said:
s2art said:
They tried, they failed. Heart in the right place though.
Is that what you really meant?
Basically, yes. The intention was good, the economic prediction was bad. However, as above, who the hell could have predicted that the the Europeans would screw up the Eurozone that badly?

DukeDickson

4,721 posts

213 months

Sunday 29th March 2015
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gottans said:
Thats because they feel obligated to spend other peoples money, doesn't matter what they spend it on but spend and keep spending, they'll just leave a note telling the next lot there isn't anything left and wish them luck.

The last bit is a bit of advanced thinking because the next lot may have found a bit of money that can be spent in the future.
They don't have any great, or otherwise, concept of either money or wealth (or even Monet). Not sure the alleged right do either.

JJ55

651 posts

115 months

Sunday 29th March 2015
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nyxster said:
We have to have health insurance fir just about every other country on the planet. They wouldn't get free healthcare in the USA, and we wouldn't get free healthcare in Nigeria, so why are we being singled out for applying the same policy other countries implement?
+1

ATG

20,570 posts

272 months

Sunday 29th March 2015
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s2art said:
Basically, yes. The intention was good, the economic prediction was bad. However, as above, who the hell could have predicted that the the Europeans would screw up the Eurozone that badly?
Yup.

98elise

26,547 posts

161 months

Sunday 29th March 2015
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xjsdriver said:
gottans said:
Thats because they feel obligated to spend other peoples money, doesn't matter what they spend it on but spend and keep spending, they'll just leave a note telling the next lot there isn't anything left and wish them luck.

The last bit is a bit of advanced thinking because the next lot may have found a bit of money that can be spent in the future.
Or the next lot may be even less truthful about the state of state finances, like the whopper of a line that the deficit would be a thing of the past come the next election.....Anyone remember that particular cracker from five years ago?
Its heading in the right direction though. Which way was it going with the last lot? They couldn't even get it heading down during a huge boom!

McWigglebum4th

32,414 posts

204 months

Sunday 29th March 2015
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xjsdriver said:
Or the next lot may be even less truthful about the state of state finances, like the whopper of a line that the deficit would be a thing of the past come the next election.....Anyone remember that particular cracker from five years ago?
The only way we can save ourselves is an extra 180billion of spending per year


And i will be voting SNP to ensure we get the UK back on track



Chlamydia

1,082 posts

127 months

Sunday 29th March 2015
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xjsdriver said:
gottans said:
Thats because they feel obligated to spend other peoples money, doesn't matter what they spend it on but spend and keep spending, they'll just leave a note telling the next lot there isn't anything left and wish them luck.

The last bit is a bit of advanced thinking because the next lot may have found a bit of money that can be spent in the future.
Or the next lot may be even less truthful about the state of state finances, like the whopper of a line that the deficit would be a thing of the past come the next election.....Anyone remember that particular cracker from five years ago?
Anybody remember who got us into this position in the first place? "An end to boom and bust", well they certainly managed the first part.

sidicks

25,218 posts

221 months

Sunday 29th March 2015
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Chlamydia said:
xjsdriver said:
gottans said:
Thats because they feel obligated to spend other peoples money, doesn't matter what they spend it on but spend and keep spending, they'll just leave a note telling the next lot there isn't anything left and wish them luck.

The last bit is a bit of advanced thinking because the next lot may have found a bit of money that can be spent in the future.
Or the next lot may be even less truthful about the state of state finances, like the whopper of a line that the deficit would be a thing of the past come the next election.....Anyone remember that particular cracker from five years ago?
Anybody remember who got us into this position in the first place? "An end to boom and bust", well they certainly managed the first part.
It's always the same people who criticise the Coalition for not eliminating the deficit who also criticise the Coalition for the 'extreme' austerity measures...
frown

Gargamel

14,985 posts

261 months

Sunday 29th March 2015
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Some people on here... makes my blood boil.

What were the Labour party saying all through the Tory policies to reduce the deficit ?

Oh yeah Ed Balls and Milliband spent four years saying

1. It won't work
2. There won't be any economic growth
3. The poor will die
4. Crime will go up
5. We need to spend more money to achieve "growth"
6. The sky will fall in.

They opposed every single measure, and what are they left with now, some mediocre whinging that 700,000 people (mostly students) are on zero hours contracts.

Growth, in the top 1 in Europe, and top 2 of developed nations. Unemployment lower than since 1995, More people employed than at any other time in UK history. The deficit has been cut in half... more to do for sure.

But honestly who called the right approach here ? Ed Balls ? Spend spend spend. Or Osbourne who at least has achieve growth during a significant fiscal contraction.

It would be a total economic disaster for the whole UK if SNP/Labour get in.

Chlamydia

1,082 posts

127 months

Sunday 29th March 2015
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Gargamel said:
Some people on here... makes my blood boil.

What were the Labour party saying all through the Tory policies to reduce the deficit ?

Oh yeah Ed Balls and Milliband spent four years saying

1. It won't work
2. There won't be any economic growth
3. The poor will die
4. Crime will go up
5. We need to spend more money to achieve "growth"
6. The sky will fall in.

They opposed every single measure, and what are they left with now, some mediocre whinging that 700,000 people (mostly students) are on zero hours contracts.

Growth, in the top 1 in Europe, and top 2 of developed nations. Unemployment lower than since 1995, More people employed than at any other time in UK history. The deficit has been cut in half... more to do for sure.

But honestly who called the right approach here ? Ed Balls ? Spend spend spend. Or Osbourne who at least has achieve growth during a significant fiscal contraction.

It would be a total economic disaster for the whole UK if SNP/Labour get in.
Precisely. All this fuss about zero hour contracts too as if it's something that wasn't around until the Tories came into power. I was working on what are now called zero hour contracts in the 80s, they just weren't called that.

retrorider

1,339 posts

201 months

Sunday 29th March 2015
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Gargamel said:
Some people on here... makes my blood boil.

What were the Labour party saying all through the Tory policies to reduce the deficit ?

Oh yeah Ed Balls and Milliband spent four years saying

1. It won't work
2. There won't be any economic growth
3. The poor will die
4. Crime will go up
5. We need to spend more money to achieve "growth"
6. The sky will fall in.

They opposed every single measure, and what are they left with now, some mediocre whinging that 700,000 people (mostly students) are on zero hours contracts.

Growth, in the top 1 in Europe, and top 2 of developed nations. Unemployment lower than since 1995, More people employed than at any other time in UK history. The deficit has been cut in half... more to do for sure.

But honestly who called the right approach here ? Ed Balls ? Spend spend spend. Or Osbourne who at least has achieve growth during a significant fiscal contraction.

It would be a total economic disaster for the whole UK if SNP/Labour get in.
+1.

turbobloke

103,926 posts

260 months

Sunday 29th March 2015
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Chlamydia said:
Gargamel said:
Some people on here... makes my blood boil.

What were the Labour party saying all through the Tory policies to reduce the deficit ?

Oh yeah Ed Balls and Milliband spent four years saying

1. It won't work
2. There won't be any economic growth
3. The poor will die
4. Crime will go up
5. We need to spend more money to achieve "growth"
6. The sky will fall in.

They opposed every single measure, and what are they left with now, some mediocre whinging that 700,000 people (mostly students) are on zero hours contracts.

Growth, in the top 1 in Europe, and top 2 of developed nations. Unemployment lower than since 1995, More people employed than at any other time in UK history. The deficit has been cut in half... more to do for sure.

But honestly who called the right approach here ? Ed Balls ? Spend spend spend. Or Osbourne who at least has achieve growth during a significant fiscal contraction.

It would be a total economic disaster for the whole UK if SNP/Labour get in.
Precisely. All this fuss about zero hour contracts too as if it's something that wasn't around until the Tories came into power. I was working on what are now called zero hour contracts in the 80s, they just weren't called that.
yes

Then again that prize of the 'looney left', redistribution of wealth, is alive and well. From pensioners, mondeo man and wolseley woman to e.g. CMD's father-in-law (Sir Windymill Sheffield), the Queen's cousin (the Duke of Gloucester) and the Duchess of Cornwall's son-in-law (Harry Sunshine Lopes) and many more. A great result for the comrades and egalitarianism generally.

http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2012/feb/28...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3016115/Th...

Thank goodness Labour pushed the CCA through to enable this 'return to marxism' under Miliband. If Red Ed walks into No 10 in May then at least we can breathe a sigh of relief that the economy will be saved alongside the NHS.

silly

anonymous-user

54 months

Sunday 29th March 2015
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The deficit is the result of not balancing the daily finances, I.e. We are spending more than we make as a country. You wouldn't run your own finances like that, well you shouldn't if you have any sense.

The current government has managed to reduce the deficit/ overdraft but as a country we are still sinking into debt, don't forget we have a national debt that isn't getting any smaller, quite opposite.

Why our polticos think running our finances like this is anywhere near sensible or acceptable I have no idea, wonder how they run their own finances?

BlackLabel

13,251 posts

123 months

Sunday 29th March 2015
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Here's another cracker from the looney left.



http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/mar/...