James Bond Racist
Discussion
Colour is irrelevant to Bond as long as the actor can carry off "Englishness". Given that we've had a Scot, an Ozzy, and an Irishman represent "Englishness" so far, I think colour is irrelevant.
Not sure about Idris Elba though. I think he could carry off some Bond scenes but not all. He's a pretty big guy which makes him look a little less "scalpel" like and more sledgehammer. Doesn't Bond need to be both?
I'm not sure about other popular candidates either. Tom Hardy, no. Christian Bale, no. Paddy Considine, no. Clive Owen, no. Mark Strong, no.
Tom Hiddleston, maybe.
Michael Fassbender, absolutely.
And comparing the "black actor" argument with white actors playing MLK or Mandella... come on people..!!
Not sure about Idris Elba though. I think he could carry off some Bond scenes but not all. He's a pretty big guy which makes him look a little less "scalpel" like and more sledgehammer. Doesn't Bond need to be both?
I'm not sure about other popular candidates either. Tom Hardy, no. Christian Bale, no. Paddy Considine, no. Clive Owen, no. Mark Strong, no.
Tom Hiddleston, maybe.
Michael Fassbender, absolutely.
And comparing the "black actor" argument with white actors playing MLK or Mandella... come on people..!!
R666 said:
I get annoyed how the left jump on anyone who dare to speak out of turn with their views on race. Cumberbatch got it in the neck and now roger Moore.
it's the throwing of the "R" word around by self satisfied twerps, highlighting others "flaws" to drown out the lack of a secure set of beliefs for themselves, that is actually more demeaning rather than supportive.For me bond is bit "old establishment" type character, although as they've morphed him from the slightly cheesy/doesn't take himself all that seriously into this hard edgy borney person now I guess they'll go wherever they choose
I could see him as Bond and his skin colour doesn't exclude him in any way. He wouldn't be my first choice as I don't think he'd pull off the Englishness that a worldwide film going audience is expecting. I was going to say I think he'd make a great Bond villain, but then that would probably have someone upset thinking that thought process must mean mine is black equals crime and criminals and bad guys, so touchy is the subject.
So yes he could be black, but I can't think of anyone at the moment who would fit the role.
So yes he could be black, but I can't think of anyone at the moment who would fit the role.
Halb said:
TwigtheWonderkid said:
As said, in the books James Bond was born in 1920, so is a Bond under 90 also a no?
You do realise it's not real.
Could be a way to go, to actually be faithful to the books.You do realise it's not real.
The Man with the Golden Prostate.
Licence to Make Hot Cocoa.
Die of Old Age Another Day.
eharding said:
Halb said:
TwigtheWonderkid said:
As said, in the books James Bond was born in 1920, so is a Bond under 90 also a no?
You do realise it's not real.
Could be a way to go, to actually be faithful to the books.You do realise it's not real.
The Man with the Golden Prostate.
Licence to Make Hot Cocoa.
Die of Old Age Another Day.
Hairfall
Memories Aren't Forever
Live and Let Hair Dye
Dr, No.
Bond's evil nemesis could be Dr Zimmerframe.
Edited by turbobloke on Sunday 29th March 13:10
R666 said:
In the books James bond is white, therefore a black James Bond is a no
If you want a film about a black secret service agent, go ahead, but he is not James Bond
I get annoyed how the left jump on anyone who dare to speak out of turn with their views on race. Cumberbatch got it in the neck and now roger Moore.
Didn't see them standing up for white kids in Rotherham, in case they upset the local Pakistanis.
That's all the lefties live for. If you want a film about a black secret service agent, go ahead, but he is not James Bond
I get annoyed how the left jump on anyone who dare to speak out of turn with their views on race. Cumberbatch got it in the neck and now roger Moore.
Didn't see them standing up for white kids in Rotherham, in case they upset the local Pakistanis.
If they can't use the power of PC to shout everyone else down over the most trivial things, they would just sit around all day getting bored with twiddling their fudge and moaning about the weather.
So if I've got this right....
... the next James Bond will be mixed race, 90 year old, transgender, lesbian, single mother of multiple children from different fathers as well as synthetic test tube variety, have one leg with 8 toes, one arm, be wheelchair bound, be undercover in a burka, has converted to Islam, yet displays the attributes of a quintessential Englishman, only smokes e-lights and drinks alcohol free Martinis, is vegan (halal veg), is not allowed to kill anyone, just convert them, while fighting the evil oil companies against man made climate change, is a double agent for the SNP, Sturgeon is the new M and Salmond moneypenny (renamed currencycent... or something similar)... Warwick Davis will play the new Felix Leiter and Jo Brand will be Q...
... Just to appease the PC brigade? Have I missed anything?. I think Idris Elba is a good actor, would make a good John Shaft if he could do the accent... or maybe he could play bond with Michael Jackson make up?
Also had a tip that Jeremy Clarkson is going to reinvent himself as an actor, he is tipped to be cast as an albino Kunte Kinte in the remake of Roots..
... the next James Bond will be mixed race, 90 year old, transgender, lesbian, single mother of multiple children from different fathers as well as synthetic test tube variety, have one leg with 8 toes, one arm, be wheelchair bound, be undercover in a burka, has converted to Islam, yet displays the attributes of a quintessential Englishman, only smokes e-lights and drinks alcohol free Martinis, is vegan (halal veg), is not allowed to kill anyone, just convert them, while fighting the evil oil companies against man made climate change, is a double agent for the SNP, Sturgeon is the new M and Salmond moneypenny (renamed currencycent... or something similar)... Warwick Davis will play the new Felix Leiter and Jo Brand will be Q...
... Just to appease the PC brigade? Have I missed anything?. I think Idris Elba is a good actor, would make a good John Shaft if he could do the accent... or maybe he could play bond with Michael Jackson make up?
Also had a tip that Jeremy Clarkson is going to reinvent himself as an actor, he is tipped to be cast as an albino Kunte Kinte in the remake of Roots..
Edited by Ovaltine on Sunday 29th March 14:22
Impasse said:
In the same way that Tom Cruise would make a good Martin Luther King?
James Bond is a made up person in a film series which has gone well beyond the scope of the books. He has been played by people of 4 (?) different nationalities, different hair colours, different eye colours, different accents. Martin Luther King was a real-life black person.
Spot the difference.
Mark-C said:
nyxster said:
Janluke said:
Personally I think JB can be played by any race any gender However Roger Moore is entitled to his opinion without making him racist
Do you know many women called James? Imagine the feminine outrage at a female james bond who goes round seducing the enemy in every film.
eharding said:
Halb said:
TwigtheWonderkid said:
As said, in the books James Bond was born in 1920, so is a Bond under 90 also a no?
You do realise it's not real.
Could be a way to go, to actually be faithful to the books.You do realise it's not real.
The Man with the Golden Prostate.
Licence to Make Hot Cocoa.
Die of Old Age Another Day.
The Spy Who Bathed Me.
As others have suggested, where do you draw the line with the diverse variables?
Why not a Sikh Bond where he wears a turban?
What about his sexual orientation? Gay / bi-sexual.
Why able bodied? Why not in a wheel-chair?
How about a gender reassignment?
etc etc.
We have an instinctive image of Bond based on what's gone before.
Why not a Sikh Bond where he wears a turban?
What about his sexual orientation? Gay / bi-sexual.
Why able bodied? Why not in a wheel-chair?
How about a gender reassignment?
etc etc.
We have an instinctive image of Bond based on what's gone before.
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