Easter Get Away for Snackbars

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dudleybloke

19,852 posts

187 months

Monday 6th April 2015
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The day we can't take the piss out of our enemy's is the day they win.

WinstonWolf

72,857 posts

240 months

Monday 6th April 2015
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allergictocheese said:
The fact a thread such as this remains in place suggest the editorial team endorse the views of the bigots who have contributed to it. Considering Pistonheads is owned by a large publisher who I imagine would not choose to alienate its Islamic customers, this comes as a surprise.

This part of the site has gained a strong reputation outside of Pistonheads as a home to casual (and less casual) racists and misogynists and I'm sad to say I agree with that analysis.
There's no place for apologists in British society any more, if you can't denounce the nutters *you* are part of the problem.

groucho

12,134 posts

247 months

Monday 6th April 2015
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allergictocheese said:
The fact a thread such as this remains in place suggest the editorial team endorse the views of the bigots who have contributed to it. Considering Pistonheads is owned by a large publisher who I imagine would not choose to alienate its Islamic customers, this comes as a surprise.

This part of the site has gained a strong reputation outside of Pistonheads as a home to casual (and less casual) racists and misogynists and I'm sad to say I agree with that analysis.
If I bigot is a person that doesn't like 'people' that go around killing others that are different than themselves and blatantly say that they hate them, then yes, I'm a bigot. rolleyes

supersingle

3,205 posts

220 months

Monday 6th April 2015
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allergictocheese said:
The fact a thread such as this remains in place suggest the editorial team endorse the views of the bigots who have contributed to it. Considering Pistonheads is owned by a large publisher who I imagine would not choose to alienate its Islamic customers, this comes as a surprise.

This part of the site has gained a strong reputation outside of Pistonheads as a home to casual (and less casual) racists and misogynists and I'm sad to say I agree with that analysis.
By outside of Pistonheads do you mean the Huffington Post, Guardian and Socialist Worker?

You need to grow up and quit throwing tantrums. You do not have a monopoly on debate and the owners of PH allowing posters to express their opinions says only that they are committed to freedom of expression, not that they agree with the views expressed.


Edited by supersingle on Monday 6th April 19:30

BrabusMog

20,180 posts

187 months

Monday 6th April 2015
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allergictocheese said:
The fact a thread such as this remains in place suggest the editorial team endorse the views of the bigots who have contributed to it. Considering Pistonheads is owned by a large publisher who I imagine would not choose to alienate its Islamic customers, this comes as a surprise.

This part of the site has gained a strong reputation outside of Pistonheads as a home to casual (and less casual) racists and misogynists and I'm sad to say I agree with that analysis.
rofl I presume this is a joke. What is racist about not liking terrorists? People like you are the reason why this country and several others in Europe are in the state that they are.

Asterix

24,438 posts

229 months

Monday 6th April 2015
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allergictocheese said:
This part of the site has gained a strong reputation outside of Pistonheads as a home to casual (and less casual) racists and misogynists and I'm sad to say I agree with that analysis.
Where?

groucho

12,134 posts

247 months

Monday 6th April 2015
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BrabusMog said:
People like you are the reason why this country and several others in Europe are in the state that they are.
Yep, I see them as treasonous rats.

Corpulent Tosser

5,459 posts

246 months

Tuesday 7th April 2015
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J4CKO said:
Corpulent Tosser said:
J4CKO said:
Allahu Akhbar does, to English ear sound a bit like someone shouting Alans Snackbar, I think this is partially born of fear rather than just being overtly racist about all Muslims, as generally Muslims dont go around shouting it day to day
Well having lived and worked in muslim countries I never once thought they were saying Alans Snackbar, and BTW ordinary muslims do say Allah Akbhar several times every day.
I have ever heard any of the Muslims I know saying it, but I have never worked in a Muslim country, I have however been to Bradford so can only go on that, seems a bit strange repeating the same phrase, it is like OCD behaviour, we are only aware of it from videos on the internet and it usually means something is going to explode , someone is about to get shot or is in the process of being beaten to death, if I heard anyone say it whilst for example at the Trafford centre I would be aiming to get out pretty quickly.
The expression is used several times in the call to prayer, it is also used during prayer, and as an expression of approval, similar to us saying Bravo or well done, though to be honest I don't think I have ever said bravo. As the helilounge on a rig I worked on was also used as a prayer room I hear it very often, less often during conversation but not unknown, a more common expresion was Inshallah, which translated as something like "if god wills it"

BTW just for clarity, none of the people I heard say Allah Ahkbar ever killed me.

Fat Fairy

503 posts

187 months

Tuesday 7th April 2015
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Corpulent Tosser said:
BTW just for clarity, none of the people I heard say Allah Ahkbar ever killed me.
Ah, but you were lucky! They got me twice!!







(I got better!)

FF

Axionknight

8,505 posts

136 months

Tuesday 7th April 2015
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Asterix said:
Where?
Mumsnet think we are all bad men and they urge our wives and girlfriends to LTB at the earliest possible chance.

Asterix

24,438 posts

229 months

Tuesday 7th April 2015
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Axionknight said:
Mumsnet think we are all bad men and they urge our wives and girlfriends to LTB at the earliest possible chance.
Excellent.

Mumsnet is the perfect weather vane. If they're against it, means it's the right course of action.

Corpulent Tosser

5,459 posts

246 months

Tuesday 7th April 2015
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Fat Fairy said:
Corpulent Tosser said:
BTW just for clarity, none of the people I heard say Allah Ahkbar ever killed me.
Ah, but you were lucky! They got me twice!!







(I got better!)

FF
Was it the same suicide bomber that got you both times ?

Axionknight

8,505 posts

136 months

Tuesday 7th April 2015
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Corpulent Tosser

5,459 posts

246 months

Tuesday 7th April 2015
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Guam said:
Oddly enough the "universal term" was not in regular use when I was in Saudi, I only ever heard it during Calls to prayer and durig firefights with Iraqis, never heard it in Macd's nor in the restaurants in Dharan or Riyadh, never heard it from the shopkeepers or customers in the shopping centres.

Funny old world, the other term inshalla I heard quite a bit in regular conversation, maybe it is unique to oil rigs that it is used in every day parlance?
I doubt that very much, it is used often in prayer and as the helilounge was used frequently as a prayer room I heard it often, I heard it infrequently during conversation but it was used. Inshallah was far more frequent.

However my point is that Allah Ahkbar is used by everyday muslims and not just terrorists.

Corpulent Tosser

5,459 posts

246 months

Tuesday 7th April 2015
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Guam said:
Doubt what very much?
That it was rarely used in everyday parlance?
Where you there with me in "junior"

It was not used typically in every day conversation based on my experience, one other place I did hear it was during public "punishment" in front of the prison in Riyadh.
Unless you are suggesting it was regularly used at the counter in MacDonald's!
And no one doubts your "point" least of all me, however the explanation was given and understood by most.
Perhaps Muslims should take offence on behalf of Christians for the Life of Brian, he was after all not the messiah just a naughty boy!
I doubt very much it is only used on oil rigs.

Perhaps muslims did take offence on behalf of christians regarding the life of brian, or maybe on on behalf of themselves as he is regarded as a prophet, but I don't know if they did or not. Makes no difference to me anyway, I really don't care if people take offence.

Corpulent Tosser

5,459 posts

246 months

Tuesday 7th April 2015
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Guam said:
"I doubt very much it is only used on oil rigs."
You know darned well thats not what I said, so stop wriggling, you have suggested outside of prayer it is a regularly used term, I have stated in my weeks of day to day encounters I never heard it used in general parlance, only at Prayer at "punishment" or in warfare.
"I really don't care if people take offence"
Clearly you do as you are taking it on others behalf!
You posted "maybe it is unique to oil rigs that it is used in every day parlance?" Which I refuted as while I would not claim it is used regularly outside prayer it is used, and it is certainly always used in prayer, so its use by everyday muslims can hardly be denied.

As for my taking offence on behalf of others, I don't recall saying I was offended.

Corpulent Tosser

5,459 posts

246 months

Tuesday 7th April 2015
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Guam said:
If not offended then what is the point of your posts?
Do I have to be offended to post ? The point of my posts is to debate.

Guam said:
No one but you and a couple of others seem to be taking issue with a play on words (which whilst distasteful and not one I would use) is as big a deal as you and others are trying to make it out to be.
Distasteful, that is a good description, I used puerile. I don't think it is a big deal, but when people question the content or accuracy of my posts I will respond, so I guess it could be said others are making a bigger deal of my opinion than I am of the expression used in the OP.


Guam said:
And yes you did suggest it was IIRC (cant be bothered to go back through the thread) you described it as a "universal term" which suggests everyday parlance, indeed you said you heard it more than Inshalla, which is the exact opposite of my day to day experience in the ME (not an Oil rig I will admit hence me suggesting it may be different).
I will correct another inaccuracy, I did not say I heard it more often than inshallah, the opposite in fact, and I have never described it as a "universal term" what is did say was I heard it often when they were at prayer, a cut and paste from an earlier post of mine "As the helilounge on a rig I worked on was also used as a prayer room I hear it very often, less often during conversation but not unknown, a more common expresion was Inshallah"

samuelellis

1,927 posts

202 months

Tuesday 7th April 2015
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Axionknight said:
Had to be Dewsbury didnt it. I would so love my hometowm to stay out of the news for a while

carinaman

21,326 posts

173 months

rich85uk

3,385 posts

180 months

Tuesday 7th April 2015
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I wonder how many have actually joined during this Easter holiday seeing as we were pre warned out it hence the thread in the first place. I don't actually see how we can stop this from happening, they know they are going into a warzone and fighting for muslim extremists who behead men women and children on a huge scale and I think it's fair to say they have carried out genocide many times.

I will happily admit I'm too chicken st to join the army yet these people are joining something far more terrifying and are recruited worldwide in there thousands with the slim chance the first mission they do is a suicide one, this is much more than brain washing and idols to be on this scale. Problem is I fear we do not want the full truth