Tonight's seven~horse TV debate. Place your bets.

Tonight's seven~horse TV debate. Place your bets.

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MGJohn

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Thursday 16th April 2015
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Welshbeef said:
The end was disgusting.

Chair allowed it to turn into a non political debate or win voters on policy instead the sole reason to vote for us is to help get Tory's out.
Then the way they leaders ignored Farage was disgusting like school children.


The last point has actually made me want to vote UKIP and never the other parties present.
All things considered because of the UKIP influence, not surprised at the way the proceedings were wound up at all. Although, right at the end it appeared Ed Miliband moved towards Nigel Farage and shook his hand. The camera lens had zoomed away and out so not too sure about that.

Even if Nigel Farage's Party's efforts draw a complete blank come May 7th, he and his party have served a very beneficial purpose for the Nation as a whole. Many who have both worrying concerns and even fears about the way things have been allowed to evolve in the UK thanks to Nigel have alerted the establishment. That is very real and the realisation of that within and across the Westminster cushioned against reality establishment has shaken it to its core. It needed that.

It is there for all to see now and will not go away even if they pretend it does not exist.

Farage's comment about the real audience was spot on!

MGJohn

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Thursday 16th April 2015
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BGARK said:
Ed must have smothered himself in attractant pheromones. The three females zero in on him .. No 10 appeal .. smile

Grommet quite rightly obviously disapproves... Canines have a cute acute sense of smell and obviously smells something's up .. What's Ed on ? ..... roflroflroflrofl

MGJohn

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Friday 17th April 2015
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Chicken Chaser said:
I'm a floating voter, but generally see myself as centre-right.
I voted Tory last election, but cannot vote them in this time around. I work in law and order and have seen the service decimated by cuts which have been disproportionate to other services. Figures massaged to create lower crime figures.

UKIP does have its appeal, however a UKIP vote gives us Cameron's Tory vision. I did think Farage was streaking away with votes only a couple of months ago yet after the televised debates, I do think he has alienated a lot of potential voters with his ill advised soundbites. I want the UK to have more control of its borders, and to be able to deny criminals or feckless from coming here,but I do want those who come here to make the most of it, contributing back to society. Maybe not living in an inner city skews my view on immigration but i believe it still comes down to our indigenous population of feckless who sponge from the state. If Farage wants to carry this over the line, he needs to change tack, and stop using very small minorities to blame problems which largely lie in problems within us!

I am genuinely unsure of where to place my vote, for the first time.
Wherever you place your vote, be assured it will be wasted. I've felt that way for some decades now. Your concerns are admirable and far more widespread than our pc-riddled media, in particular the BBC, would have us believe for various reasons.

Farage may have alienated some potential voters but, in so doing may have widened his appeal for all the right reasons.

Chicken Chaser said:
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Maybe not living in an inner city skews my view on immigration..
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No maybe about it. My wife and I grew up in an inner city environment ( East London ) during those marvellous 1960s. Some years ago, we took our then two young schoolboy sons to show them where their Mum and Dad grew up. When we stopped and showed them the area and a little later the flat above a retail shop where we lived, this is what they said unprompted and almost in unison.

What a dump Dad!

They were right. Totally right. Had I blindfolded any of tonight's cushioned against reality Question Time Panel and taken them to that area on that day and then removed that blindfold, they would have had a very rude awakening dose of reality. Recently been there once since and sad to report it has not improved.. Quite the opposite. Very, very disappointing especially as not a glimmer of any sign that things will improve. Should you ever find yourself in such an area and wind your car window down to ask for directions, my advice would be simply ... don't!

My basic instincts are and always have been conservative. I have several times voted for Labour in the past and have been pleased to do so. Although I have never been a member of any trade union or similar set-up, there have been three occasions during my fifty one years of employment when I wished I had been a member. Still I managed to survive despite all that.

I'm still wasting my vote by putting the X inside the UKIP candidate's box on May 7th. Fact is based on my observations for some decades now, no matter where you put your X it will be a waste. I am convinced that come May 8th, this depressing scenario will be set to continue and even worsen. Very depressing prospect ... Whatever the outcome, some will be delighted with the result and dance with glee. Poor deluded things. No matter what the result, I will not be one of those.

With sinking heart, all together now...

Meet the new Boss... same as the old ... frown