Tonight's seven~horse TV debate. Place your bets.

Tonight's seven~horse TV debate. Place your bets.

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Welshbeef

49,633 posts

199 months

Thursday 16th April 2015
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Nigel
I have to say he is spot on - it's amazing that in the audience they are all very left leaning where are the Tory supporters where are the UKIP supporters?

Halb

53,012 posts

184 months

Thursday 16th April 2015
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Massive home goal there.

Audience selected by an independent panel.

GTIAlex

1,935 posts

167 months

Thursday 16th April 2015
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Think Nige is doing well

Northern Munkee

5,354 posts

201 months

Thursday 16th April 2015
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Cameron's doing well.

Miliband's media training is so fucckinggg irritating

anonymous-user

55 months

Thursday 16th April 2015
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Why does the Green woman have any say at all she is a moron. They have one MP ! WTF

LastLight

1,339 posts

185 months

Thursday 16th April 2015
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If Wales made robots...

Sheepshanks

32,799 posts

120 months

Thursday 16th April 2015
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Halb said:
Massive home goal there.

Audience selected by an independent panel.
It's pretty left leaning judging by the way the applause goes.

Crockefeller

327 posts

157 months

Thursday 16th April 2015
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Ed's words are so much more effective when he does the 'right shoulder lean in' and 'w@nker grip' combo.

Welshbeef

49,633 posts

199 months

Thursday 16th April 2015
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Halb said:
Massive home goal there.

Audience selected by an independent panel.
But given all the polls we should be seeing 1/3 Tory supporters 1/10 UKIP 1/12 Lib Dems

Yet it appears to be very much left leaning.

Northern Munkee

5,354 posts

201 months

Thursday 16th April 2015
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Natalie Bennett would love to say we will nationalise your house.

Scuffers

20,887 posts

275 months

Thursday 16th April 2015
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Halb said:
Massive home goal there.

Audience selected by an independent panel.
Really?

Don't believe that for a second..


LastLight

1,339 posts

185 months

Thursday 16th April 2015
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Northern Munkee said:
Natalie Bennett would love to say we will nationalise your house.
Breath in her second term. Can't let all that nasty co2 out.

GTIAlex

1,935 posts

167 months

Thursday 16th April 2015
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Paddy_N_Murphy said:
GTIAlex said:
Think Nige is doing well
finish the sentence.


Doing well at what ?
fk off you

Laurel Green

30,780 posts

233 months

Thursday 16th April 2015
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Halb said:
Audience selected by an independent panel.
A tad like Miliband's visit to meet the people in Crouch End today - invitation only.

jogon

2,971 posts

159 months

Thursday 16th April 2015
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Never seen such a bias audience. BBC at its finest.

Northern Munkee

5,354 posts

201 months

Thursday 16th April 2015
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LastLight said:
Northern Munkee said:
Natalie Bennett would love to say we will nationalise your house.
Breath in her second term. Can't let all that nasty co2 out.
No need to worry about co2 I'll get a grant to put sails on my car.

BGARK

5,494 posts

247 months

Thursday 16th April 2015
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Is Nigel the only one who understands maths?

LastLight

1,339 posts

185 months

Thursday 16th April 2015
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Northern Munkee said:
No need to worry about co2 I'll get a grant to put sails on my car.
Ah, but you won't be allowed a car. Four feet max.

BlackLabel

13,251 posts

124 months

Thursday 16th April 2015
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TEKNOPUG said:
Why are these regional parties taking part in this debate? I can't vote for Plaid Cymru or the SNP, what they say has no relevance whatsoever for 87% of the country. They may as well give Julius Malema of the EFF a chance to put forward his plans.
Blame Cameron for that one. Initially the tv companies just wanted Cameron vs Miliband and then 2 or 3 debates with Cameron, Miliband, Clegg and Farage. The SNP, Greens etc threatened legal action over this however it would not have broken any of the broadcasting rules because the SNP and the Greens don't qualify for “major party status” in the general election.

Then Cameron's advisers decided that he shouldn't take part in the debates so they lobbied for the minor parties to be involved thinking that would dilute the debates down or better still (for the Tories) mean that they wouldn't even take place in the first place.

ninja-lewis

4,242 posts

191 months

Thursday 16th April 2015
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greygoose said:
I still don't understand Cameron avoiding debates, missing the chance to put your points across to a large audience is odd and just gives the others a chance to give you a kicking.
He'll get a kicking either way.

Cameron has little to gain and a lot to lose from debates. Not only has he a record in Government to defend, he also has the burden of expectations: voters expect him to blow their socks off in a debate (be 'prime ministerial' so to speak) and will be disappointed if he's merely good. Miliband on other hand merely has to not pick his nose in front of the camera to exceed the low expectations people have for him. Be too robust and he'll come off as a bully, especially against the female leaders.

It's the same reason why Blair rejected debates as Leader of the Opposition in 1997 - the possible damage outweighed the limited gains to be made.

It also suits Cameron to sit this one out because it is effectively lowering Miliband to same level as the small parties.

Look at Nicola Sturgeon, she was given the win in the 7-way debate because she was a) unfamiliar to non-Scottish voters with correspondingly low expectations b) she knows more about Westminster politics than Cameron/Miliband do about Scottish politics and most of all c) she was largely unchallenged as Cameron/Miliband focused on each other. By contrast, she struggled in the Scottish leader debates where her opponents could take the fight to her and put her on the back foot.