Robbery in London - 300 deposit boxes

Robbery in London - 300 deposit boxes

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Ari

19,347 posts

216 months

Friday 10th April 2015
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Vaud said:
According to the telegraph they got through an 18" thick steel door.



That sounds awfully thick for a steel door?
Interesting diagram - do they take the lift away at weekends? biggrin

paranoid airbag

2,679 posts

160 months

Friday 10th April 2015
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J4CKO said:
briang9 said:
Chim said:
Is it just me thinking "well done guys" what a heist.
no, me too
So, will you still be congratulating them when your insurance premiums rise ? The real world isn't a 60s "caper" film, these are proper criminals who were presumably armed and ready to injure or kill so they could complete their theft.
No, but they're not exactly going to stop what they're doing and hand themselves in because roy, 29, from croydon (/or whoever) thinks they're bad men are they?

Obviously they're criminals who should be caught if locked up, but their motivations are predictable, and they seem professional. You can't credibly go into a valuables storage business without realising that someone is going to try and remove the valuables you're storing. In short, we willingly pay a business specifically to be responsible for stopping this. Maybe not an economically optimal arrangement, but a stable one. Maybe the business whose job it is to keep things safe will do a better job in future.

I have far more of a problem with the sort of dickweed who drives onto a live racetrack because YOLO. That sort of thing puts an almost impossible burden on businesses and individuals alike.




J4CKO

41,608 posts

201 months

Friday 10th April 2015
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paranoid airbag said:
J4CKO said:
briang9 said:
Chim said:
Is it just me thinking "well done guys" what a heist.
no, me too
So, will you still be congratulating them when your insurance premiums rise ? The real world isn't a 60s "caper" film, these are proper criminals who were presumably armed and ready to injure or kill so they could complete their theft.
No, but they're not exactly going to stop what they're doing and hand themselves in because roy, 29, from croydon (/or whoever) thinks they're bad men are they?

Obviously they're criminals who should be caught if locked up, but their motivations are predictable, and they seem professional. You can't credibly go into a valuables storage business without realising that someone is going to try and remove the valuables you're storing. In short, we willingly pay a business specifically to be responsible for stopping this. Maybe not an economically optimal arrangement, but a stable one. Maybe the business whose job it is to keep things safe will do a better job in future.

I have far more of a problem with the sort of dickweed who drives onto a live racetrack because YOLO. That sort of thing puts an almost impossible burden on businesses and individuals alike.
Having seen a bit more, what they have pulled off is as impressive as how poor the deposit box companies security.

I imagine a lot of the stuff in the boxes may be of dubious origin anyway.

At least nobody got hurt, it affects the owners of the boxes but I suspect none of them are going to starve due to this.

MarshPhantom

9,658 posts

138 months

Friday 10th April 2015
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J4CKO said:
paranoid airbag said:
J4CKO said:
briang9 said:
Chim said:
Is it just me thinking "well done guys" what a heist.
no, me too
So, will you still be congratulating them when your insurance premiums rise ? The real world isn't a 60s "caper" film, these are proper criminals who were presumably armed and ready to injure or kill so they could complete their theft.
No, but they're not exactly going to stop what they're doing and hand themselves in because roy, 29, from croydon (/or whoever) thinks they're bad men are they?

Obviously they're criminals who should be caught if locked up, but their motivations are predictable, and they seem professional. You can't credibly go into a valuables storage business without realising that someone is going to try and remove the valuables you're storing. In short, we willingly pay a business specifically to be responsible for stopping this. Maybe not an economically optimal arrangement, but a stable one. Maybe the business whose job it is to keep things safe will do a better job in future.

I have far more of a problem with the sort of dickweed who drives onto a live racetrack because YOLO. That sort of thing puts an almost impossible burden on businesses and individuals alike.
Having seen a bit more, what they have pulled off is as impressive as how poor the deposit box companies security.

I imagine a lot of the stuff in the boxes may be of dubious origin anyway.

At least nobody got hurt, it affects the owners of the boxes but I suspect none of them are going to starve due to this.
Saying on the radio yesterday that a lot of the stuff that's got nicked won't be reported, dubious origins, stashes of cash etc. Could be the perfect crime if they get away with it.

Foppo

2,344 posts

125 months

Friday 10th April 2015
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Professional job no amateurs here.Lots of drilling the right gear and the right place.Some inside information I should think.There must have been plenty of noise with the drill bits.

soad

32,903 posts

177 months

Friday 10th April 2015
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Foppo said:
Professional job no amateurs here.Lots of drilling the right gear and the right place.Some inside information I should think.There must have been plenty of noise with the drill bits.
Those drills are real heavy too. Must have been plenty of smoke? Even plaster dust sets off smoke detectors...

Hooli

32,278 posts

201 months

Friday 10th April 2015
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Vaud said:
Surely this is crying out for it's first review?

https://plus.google.com/110347422484210750004/abou...

If I were childish and not old and sensible I would add, "Love the new open plan basement"
whistle



Vaud

50,572 posts

156 months

Friday 10th April 2015
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beer

Hooli

32,278 posts

201 months

Friday 10th April 2015
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bowtie

Laurel Green

30,780 posts

233 months

Friday 10th April 2015
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hehe

PurpleTurtle

7,008 posts

145 months

Friday 10th April 2015
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Sligthly OT but it reminds me of the Knightsbridge job, Valerio Viccei was a bit of a hero to the 15yo me at the time (from the perspective of driving a Testarossa/being a playboy/shagging loads of fit skirt, as opposed to being a thieving barsteward). He went out in a blaze of glory, eventually.

http://www.theguardian.com/theguardian/2000/apr/20...

Back on topic, seems there would need to be a lot of inside info to pull off a job like this. Am amazed that the CCTV was so amateur, I had a more secure set-up at my last place looking to capture local scrotes keying my M3!


Edited by PurpleTurtle on Friday 10th April 14:36

soad

32,903 posts

177 months

Friday 10th April 2015
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PurpleTurtle said:
Sligthly OT but it reminds me of the Knightsbridge job, Valerio Viccei was a bit of a hero to the 15yo me at the time (from the perspective of driving a Testarossa/being a playboy/shagging loads of fit skirt, as opposed to being a thieving barsteward). Hw went out in a blaze of glory, eventually.

http://www.theguardian.com/theguardian/2000/apr/20...

Back on topic, seems there would need to be a lot of inside info to pull off a job like this. Am amazed that the CCTV was so amateur, I had a more secure set-up at my last place looking to capture local scrotes keying my M3!
Decent read. yes


mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

256 months

Friday 10th April 2015
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Looking for pointers. How do I unload diamonds?

Hooli

32,278 posts

201 months

Friday 10th April 2015
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mybrainhurts said:
Looking for pointers. How do I unload diamonds?
Open the box & tip them out.

Oakey

27,591 posts

217 months

Friday 10th April 2015
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mybrainhurts said:
Looking for pointers. How do I unload diamonds?
There's a guy down Dagenham way, owns a scrapyard. Speak to him, he knows the score. Just watch out you don't end up getting your nut blown off and buried under the scrap.

On a serious note, the Met are now investigating as to why the call about the intruder alarm was ignored.

Scuffers

20,887 posts

275 months

Friday 10th April 2015
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Latest from the Met...

Alarm co. reported the alarm to them at past midnight Friday,

Police 'graded' the call such that no further action was taken.

How does that happen? alarm goes off at the biggest diamond repository in the country, and they don't even send anybody to take a look?

3 days later.....

PurpleTurtle

7,008 posts

145 months

Friday 10th April 2015
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Cutbacks, innit!

kev1974

4,029 posts

130 months

Friday 10th April 2015
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Standard now reporting that as well as the security guard that was called out and couldn't be arsed to go further than the front door ("not paid enough mate") it turns out the police were also called in the early hours of Friday, and they couldn't be arsed to check it out properly either.

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/police-invest...

Seems to me like the thieves had a lot of luck on their side as well as the inside knowledge to know what drills to bring.

Even now, the Daily Mail is saying the owner/manager can't be arsed to come back from his holiday/trip or contact any of the customers.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3031637

What a shambles!

BrabusMog

20,179 posts

187 months

Friday 10th April 2015
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Unbelievable! The whole thing seems like a farce, apart from the thieves, who seem to know exactly what they were doing so hats off to them.

Magog

2,652 posts

190 months

Friday 10th April 2015
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This is great marketing for Hilti.