Robbery in London - 300 deposit boxes

[cahami]

[quote=Vaud]How odd. Why wouldn't you get the rest for the sake of a few hours given to have done the difficult bit?[/quote

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In these days of CCTV everywhere and current security systems is it possible that there was maybe 1 particular item that needed to be liberated from that vault?. The police must know which boxes have been opened why are they not telling the depositors?

[Pesty]

Vaud said:

How odd. Why wouldn't you get the rest for the sake of a few hours given to have done the difficult bit?

Perhaps a pre determined time cut off that they said they wouldn't go over. Escape plan that couldn't wait maybe or perhaps they either got enough or git the item they wanted.

They will probably have had a lookout who might have seen something or people were going to start arriving for work.

[Eclassy]

Scuffers said:

Alarm went off, pc plod ignored it.

There are more important things for the police to do than investigating when the alarm goes off at a business establishment.

[ofcorsa]

Pesty said:

Perhaps a pre determined time cut off that they said they wouldn't go over. Escape plan that couldn't wait maybe or perhaps they either got enough or git the item they wanted.

They will probably have had a lookout who might have seen something or people were going to start arriving for work.

Also I imagine taking stuff you can't immediately shift increases the risk you get caught holding the stolen goods

[anonymous-user]

Eclassy said:

Scuffers said:

Alarm went off, pc plod ignored it.

There are more important things for the police to do than investigating when the alarm goes off at a business establishment.

Exactly. Especially when it a Hatton Garden safety deposit business. Why, those places are so well protected they can look after themselves..............

[andy43]

Eclassy said:

Scuffers said:

Alarm went off, pc plod ignored it.

There are more important things for the police to do than investigating when the alarm goes off at a business establishment.

Indeed.

PurpleTurtle said:

Pesty said:

Laurel Green said:

jammy_basturd said:

This was a really masterminded heist.

Very interesting, thanks for posting.

silly,silly way to get caught. after all that planning just dump evidence in a wood with direct links to you and the place that got robbed.

if i were his comrades and a bit dodgy he would be looking over his back when he gets out.

A fascinating read, can't quite believe how such meticulous plannung could come unstuck in such an amateur way though. 5 mins effort spent burning the lot, home and dry.

Read that last night

[jammy_basturd]

Shop in millions of pounds worth of jewels, cash and valuables, along with their rescuers and receive £20,000 in return: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-324391...

[soad]

stripy7 said:

As an aside I've encountered metal safes which incorporated arsenic pellets/ other nasties in their side walls intended to be released when they are cut up.

Edited by stripy7 on Wednesday 22 April 14:38

Health and safety.

[carreauchompeur]

jammy_basturd said:

Shop in millions of pounds worth of jewels, cash and valuables, along with their rescuers and receive £20,000 in return: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-324391...

Indeed. I suspect this will only generate 'desperate smack head' grade intelligence however you never know...

[carinaman]

andy43 said:

Indeed.

So which car is being driven by an elected politician with child pornography in the boot?

And which car is being driven by an elected, ahem, politician with completed ballot papers in the boot?

[AndrewEH1]

You have to applaud the thieves really. No violence during the raid, and the police seemingly have no leads and no idea who did it.

[kev1974]

jammy_basturd said:

Shop in millions of pounds worth of jewels, cash and valuables, along with their rescuers and receive £20,000 in return: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-324391...

Well if the owners and insurers of the place can't be arsed to help out with any kind of reward to get their stuff back, why should the police put public money up?

Mind you £20k probably covers about a 1.5 days of their detective team that must be on this now.

[Fastra]

Eclassy said:

Scuffers said:

Alarm went off, pc plod ignored it.

There are more important things for the police to do than investigating when the alarm goes off at a business establishment.

Sorry if already mentioned, but someone on the radio the other day was saying that is a business alarm goes off more than 3 times in a given period then it's ignored as a fault.
Be interesting to see how many times this one has been activated recently.

[WestyCarl]

Heard a Jorno on 5live today who's made a TV program and simulated the raid. He said the obstacles they overcame were immense. Also thinks specific boxes were targeted, as according to his timing the raid was done by Sun morning, leaving 500+ boxes un-touched!!

I think it's on Sunday 9pm

[Scuffers]

Fastra said:

Eclassy said:

Scuffers said:

Alarm went off, pc plod ignored it.

There are more important things for the police to do than investigating when the alarm goes off at a business establishment.

Sorry if already mentioned, but someone on the radio the other day was saying that is a business alarm goes off more than 3 times in a given period then it's ignored as a fault.
Be interesting to see how many times this one has been activated recently.

yes, but considering where/what it is, ignoring it was just incompetence.

you telling me that if the alarm goes off at a bank they would ignore that too?

[100SRV]

Muncher said:

There isn't an awful lot of steel in that concrete whichever way you look at it. I think the problem is drilling technology has moved on quite a long way since these safes were built and can be breached quite easily. Some kind of anti-drilling compound in there would be useful, some kind of fibres or mesh that would cause friction to the drill bit would be useful, it doesn't take a lot of friction to stop a core bit.

Aramid?

[bad company]

Foppo said:

The mechanics of doing this job not that difficult.Having the guts to do it and not being to greedy is the art.They only took so many boxes.I don't condone thieving but job was professionally done.

Edited by Foppo on Wednesday 22 April 19:20

Yes very professional. Part of me hopes they are not caught.

[carinaman]

100SRV said:

Muncher said:

There isn't an awful lot of steel in that concrete whichever way you look at it. I think the problem is drilling technology has moved on quite a long way since these safes were built and can be breached quite easily. Some kind of anti-drilling compound in there would be useful, some kind of fibres or mesh that would cause friction to the drill bit would be useful, it doesn't take a lot of friction to stop a core bit.

Aramid?

Some secondary after market skin that could be added either side of existing concrete safe walls could create sufficient friction to slow down penetration by a core bit?

Is there not a transducer that could be inserted into a concrete safe wall that would detect the noise and vibration caused by drilling and trigger an alarm?

Surely an alert triggered by such a transducer could be compared to other alarm alerts, ie. the one ignored by the police, and consider the time and date, ie. is it a bank holiday weekend?

Any high friction second skin retro fitted to either side of concrete safe walls could also have a transducer(s) applied to it to detect disturbance.

Edited by carinaman on Friday 24th April 18:23

[menousername]

Why does this particular crime merit a 20k reward?

Is it justified or is it due to embarrassment at not responding to the alarm and having no leads

[Oakey]

carinaman said:

Some secondary after market skin that could be added either side of existing concrete safe walls could create sufficient friction to slow down penetration by a core bit?

Is there not a transducer that could be inserted into a concrete safe wall that would detect the noise and vibration caused by drilling and trigger an alarm?

Surely an alert triggered by such a transducer could be compared to other alarm alerts, ie. the one ignored by the police, and consider the time and date, ie. is it a bank holiday weekend?

Any high friction second skin retro fitted to either side of concrete safe walls could also have a transducer(s) applied to it to detect disturbance.

Edited by carinaman on Friday 24th April 18:23

Why not a small airgap in the middle of the concrete with a laser curtain? That's the sort of thing you'd see in a heist movie after all.