Robbery in London - 300 deposit boxes

Robbery in London - 300 deposit boxes

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Oakey

27,593 posts

217 months

Tuesday 19th May 2015
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Sir Humphrey said:
I would imagine laundering the money is the easiest part of an operation of that magnitude.
Nah, the problem with being a criminal is having to deal with criminals. Look at Brinks Mat as an example of crims screwing each other over.

Speaking of which...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3087852/Po...

One of the arrested has connections to Brinks Mat

Edited by Oakey on Tuesday 19th May 20:15

Kaj91

4,705 posts

122 months

Tuesday 19th May 2015
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A further two men have been arrested by Flying Squad officers investigating the Hatton Garden raid, in which thieves made off with an estimated £200m in jewels and cash.

A total of nine suspects have now been detained, according to Scotland Yard - and in earlier raids, "a significant amount of high-value property" was recovered.

The first seven suspects, aged between 48 and 76, were held for conspiracy to steal, said Detective Superintendent Craig Turner, head of the Flying Squad.

The arrests were made as some 200 officers raided 12 addresses in north London and Kent, in what Det Supt Turner described as an "exceptional, complex investigation".

PurpleTurtle

7,016 posts

145 months

Tuesday 19th May 2015
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Surprised that they have publicly named one of the men arrested, given his previous.

Cotty

39,581 posts

285 months

Tuesday 19th May 2015
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AndrewEH1 said:
Is it just me or am I the only one who thinks it's a little sad that they appear to have caught them?
If you had anything in one of those boxes would you have the same view?

greygoose

8,269 posts

196 months

Tuesday 19th May 2015
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AndrewEH1 said:
Is it just me or am I the only one who thinks it's a little sad that they appear to have caught them?
Not sad at all, if someone broke into your house and stole your property would you be sad if they were caught?

anonymous-user

55 months

Tuesday 19th May 2015
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They confirmed they should have responded to the alarm. I expect they'll be some rather quick reinforcement of the correct policy in the call centre.

AndrewEH1

4,917 posts

154 months

Tuesday 19th May 2015
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Cotty said:
If you had anything in one of those boxes would you have the same view?
greygoose said:
Not sad at all, if someone broke into your house and stole your property would you be sad if they were caught?
Obviously they deserved to be punished for their crimes, but the fact they seemingly got away with it for so long and managed to carry out the theft so efficiently, including police incompetence, it's kind of admirable in a cop'n'robbers way if that makes sense.

kev1974

4,029 posts

130 months

Tuesday 19th May 2015
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PurpleTurtle said:
Surprised that they have publicly named one of the men arrested, given his previous.
As I read it, it's not the police that have named him and his son, but neighbours that have run to the papers after seeing Met Police operating at a property well outside their area.

Willy Nilly

12,511 posts

168 months

Tuesday 19th May 2015
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AndrewEH1 said:
Is it just me or am I the only one who thinks it's a little sad that they appear to have caught them?
Yes.

I have just read a book about the Brinks Mat robbery. They are a group of very unpleasant people. The robbery is one thing, then they have to launder the money. They made bloody fortunes "investing" the money in various scams like dodgy timeshares and bring huge amounts of drugs in to the country. I'd imagine, that's the sort of thing this group of burglars had in mind.

Dreadful people

mattley

3,024 posts

223 months

Tuesday 19th May 2015
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La Liga said:
They confirmed they should have responded to the alarm. I expect they'll be some rather quick reinforcement of the correct policy in the call centre.
They have to say that in hindsight don't they?

I worked for ages in a building with a ridiculously complex arm set and disarm procedure which resulted in many warnings from the police that they would no longer attend due to multiple false alarms.

I suspect there's nothing wrong with the policy or how it was followed. It might have been used to the robbers advantage. They might well have been able to trigger a few false alarms, when they do the job another alarm goes of, it was reported that the police did respond, had a look around, couldn't see anything wrong and left.


Oakey

27,593 posts

217 months

Tuesday 19th May 2015
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Willy Nilly said:
Yes.

I have just read a book about the Brinks Mat robbery. They are a group of very unpleasant people. The robbery is one thing, then they have to launder the money. They made bloody fortunes "investing" the money in various scams like dodgy timeshares and bring huge amounts of drugs in to the country. I'd imagine, that's the sort of thing this group of burglars had in mind.

Dreadful people
Which book did you read btw?

Willy Nilly

12,511 posts

168 months

Tuesday 19th May 2015
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Oakey said:
Willy Nilly said:
Yes.

I have just read a book about the Brinks Mat robbery. They are a group of very unpleasant people. The robbery is one thing, then they have to launder the money. They made bloody fortunes "investing" the money in various scams like dodgy timeshares and bring huge amounts of drugs in to the country. I'd imagine, that's the sort of thing this group of burglars had in mind.

Dreadful people
Which book did you read btw?
http://www.amazon.co.uk/The-Curse-Brinks-Mat-Twenty-five-Lucrative/dp/1849163057

Quite good, though it was written in geezer language. Ages ago I read the book about Noye, best he stays where he is.

Oakey

27,593 posts

217 months

Tuesday 19th May 2015
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I've read that one, it's alright I think but doesn't really tell you anything you can't glean from newspaper articles on Google, then it sort of focuses on Noye a bit too much if I recall.

anonymous-user

55 months

Wednesday 20th May 2015
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mattley said:
La Liga said:
They confirmed they should have responded to the alarm. I expect they'll be some rather quick reinforcement of the correct policy in the call centre.
They have to say that in hindsight don't they?

I worked for ages in a building with a ridiculously complex arm set and disarm procedure which resulted in many warnings from the police that they would no longer attend due to multiple false alarms.

I suspect there's nothing wrong with the policy or how it was followed. It might have been used to the robbers advantage. They might well have been able to trigger a few false alarms, when they do the job another alarm goes of, it was reported that the police did respond, had a look around, couldn't see anything wrong and left.
I'm pretty sure they'd have said they followed their policy if it would have justified not responding.



longshot

3,286 posts

199 months

Wednesday 20th May 2015
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Kaj91 said:
The arrests were made as some 200 officers........
200 officers!!?

Haven't they got better things to do?
Shouldn't they be out catching real criminals instead?

numtumfutunch

4,731 posts

139 months

Wednesday 20th May 2015
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Brinks Mat???

Hmmmm

They never did recover all the gold did they?

Small world too with the suspects named so far....


100SRV

2,135 posts

243 months

Wednesday 20th May 2015
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longshot said:
200 officers!!?

Haven't they got better things to do?
Shouldn't they be out catching real criminals instead?
Interesting observation, makes me wonder what real criminals do especially in light of the Jimmy Saville / Cyril Smith stuff.

What happened - some undisclosed items were stolen and, besides financial loss, no-one was hurt, I suspect the motivation behind apprehending these criminals is as much to do with saving face as justice.
;-)

Scuffers

20,887 posts

275 months

Wednesday 20th May 2015
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100SRV said:
Interesting observation, makes me wonder what real criminals do especially in light of the Jimmy Saville / Cyril Smith stuff.

What happened - some undisclosed items were stolen and, besides financial loss, no-one was hurt, I suspect the motivation behind apprehending these criminals is as much to do with saving face as justice.
;-)
they pretty much admitted that on TV, saying they had been made to look like the keystone cops.

Cotty

39,581 posts

285 months

Wednesday 20th May 2015
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longshot said:
200 officers!!?

Haven't they got better things to do?
Shouldn't they be out catching real criminals instead?
Thieves are real criminals.

kev1974

4,029 posts

130 months

Wednesday 20th May 2015
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Another one of the arrested named now
http://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/revealed-the-...

I want to know what's been blurred out in the pictures of the vault!