Why are Labour and the Conservatives neck and neck?

[Cheese Mechanic]

mcbook said:

I agree that it's payback time. However, I do not agree that a thriving economy is linked to low taxes. Personal taxes anyway.
We've had the basic rate come down from 25% to 20% over the last 15 years or so. The sad fact is that 25% might be the fair rate to achieve the quality of services desired by the nation. However, it now seems like political suicide to even mention increasing the basic rate of tax.

If you are even remotely thinking about voting for the Labour Party, you are either irresponsible, stupid , or both. Its as easy as that.

As for the nonsense you have posted here, since when have you heard anyone say they go to work to pay tax? You think 25% is "fair" you pay it, nobody stopping you. Off you go.

[Muzzer79]

Muzzer79 said:

Simply?

1. Cameron and the others do not have enough charisma to lure traditional anti-Tory voters like Blair (no matter what you think of his tenure) could do in '97 for anti-Labour voters.

2. The section of society who do not work and claim benefits are worse off and blame the Tories, thinking they are looking after the rich and taking from the poor.

3. Some people would vote Labour no matter what their policies were.

4. More of the Tory vote has gone to the likes of UKIP than Labour's vote.

All IMO

I forgot

5. A lot of Labour voters still have a chip on their shoulder about Thatcher and blame her for what happened to them/their parents/their grandparents.

[Cheese Mechanic]

Muzzer79 said:

I forgot
5. A lot of Labour voters still have a chip on their shoulder about Thatcher and blame her for what happened to them/their parents/their grandparents.

Yup, fk it , Fecking Fatcher sunk the fecking Titanic,caused the Black Death ennit, ennit, eh?

[McWigglebum4th]

Cheese Mechanic said:

If you are even remotely thinking about voting for the Labour Party, you are either irresponsible, stupid , or both. Its as easy as that.

As for the nonsense you have posted here, since when have you heard anyone say they go to work to pay tax? You think 25% is "fair" you pay it, nobody stopping you. Off you go.

25% tax on my earnings



i wish it was that low

I earn £40K in the UK and see almost half of that get pissed up the wall by the government


income tax is only half of the taxes i get raped for

[McWigglebum4th]

Cheese Mechanic said:

Muzzer79 said:

I forgot
5. A lot of Labour voters still have a chip on their shoulder about Thatcher and blame her for what happened to them/their parents/their grandparents.

Yup, fk it , Fecking Fatcher sunk the fecking Titanic,caused the Black Death ennit, ennit, eh?

We had some visitors up with my parents

One of whom is a retard

My mother was telling a story of when she visited wales when she was a kid and how the poverty was terrible

The retard piped up and blamed thatcher

My mother pointed out this was in the 1950s

The retard still blamed thatcher

[otolith]

Because there are more people willing to vote for a share of what others have than there are willing to vote to keep what they've got.

[Derek Smith]

BlackLabel said:

fblm said:

Because 90% of the public are financially illiterate.

Sad but probably true.

The suggesting from most commentators is that the economy is the main reason for the floating voter to pick a party.

The idea of Blair getting in because he was fresh-faced is wrong, I think. I changed from voting tory to labour in 97. I liked Major and thought him an excellent PM. In fact, since then, I reckon I underrated him. However, the silly right backbenchers destroyed any chance of Major being able to control the party.

The trend of comments afterwards was that this was the reason people opted for labour: the tories were a shambles and people feared for the economy.

Denigrating the electorate is not really on I think. You will always get those who will vote for one party or another for all their lives, not willing to change despite their performance. Rather a weird point of view. I have supported McLaren for years, through thick and thin, but politics is too important for loyalty.

The floating voter is the one that the parties need to go after, and the tories are focusing on their loyal base, with tax concessions and such.

The attack on the police has caused a few old faithful to be wary, at least that's my experience. People are worried, at least that is my experience, but then I suppose the fact I used to be a police office might make people talk more.

Labour? I haven't any real idea of what they are after. I've not followed them, but one assumes that whatever they are doing must be quite good given the polling results.

I still think that the UKIP vote will not materialise, at least not to the extent reported. So perhaps not that close.

[LucreLout]

Too many hands in the cookie jar, from people whose vote labour has bought and paid for. It really is that simple.

[johnxjsc1985]

Derek Smith said:

I still think that the UKIP vote will not materialise, at least not to the extent reported. So perhaps not that close.

I think the UKIP vote may surprise you.I find when people talk with friends they are happy to talk about voting UKIP but that may not be the case when asked in a poll I think they would declare themselves as a dont know.
I actually think and maybe hope that these polls are way off remember John Major.
I think I am probably clutching at Straws but seeing Miliband as Sturgeon's puppet is a frightening thought

[anonymous-user]

Derek Smith said:

Denigrating the electorate is not really on I think.

Why not? We get the government we deserve. When the electorate can't be arsed spending 10 minutes educating themselves about such trivial economics as the difference between the debt and the deficit we end up with the moron MP's we do. (Just watch 1 minute of the video I linked above!) I wince when I hear the cr*p Cameron is promising in a pathetic bid to out spend Miliband with your childrens future but the depressing fact is he can't win if he doesn't. The electorate need a massive kick in the arse.

[StottyEvo]

I have no political bias from parents/friends etc and I'm voting for the conservatives. Results speak for themselves and as the OP has stated they're doing pretty well.

I don't like a few things that they have done (privatising the Royal Mail) but I'm sure any other party would have also done things that I wasn't too keen on.

[rs1952]

Cheese Mechanic said:

Muzzer79 said:

I forgot
5. A lot of Labour voters still have a chip on their shoulder about Thatcher and blame her for what happened to them/their parents/their grandparents.

Yup, fk it , Fecking Fatcher sunk the fecking Titanic,caused the Black Death ennit, ennit, eh?

No. That was all caused by the EU

[turbobloke]

rs1952 said:

Cheese Mechanic said:

Muzzer79 said:

I forgot
5. A lot of Labour voters still have a chip on their shoulder about Thatcher and blame her for what happened to them/their parents/their grandparents.

Yup, fk it , Fecking Fatcher sunk the fecking Titanic,caused the Black Death ennit, ennit, eh?

No. That was all caused by the EU

You didn't get that from the BBC.

[johnxjsc1985]

fblm said:

Why not? We get the government we deserve. When the electorate can't be arsed spending 10 minutes educating themselves about such trivial economics as the difference between the debt and the deficit we end up with the moron MP's we do. (Just watch 1 minute of the video I linked above!) I wince when I hear the cr*p Cameron is promising in a pathetic bid to out spend Miliband with your childrens future but the depressing fact is he can't win if he doesn't. The electorate need a massive kick in the arse.

I agree about the electorate but wouldn't it be great if we had a choice of dynamic charasmatic leaders rather than the limp wristed pathetic excuse for men we have now. Sturgeon had more balls on show than Cameron and Miliband.
Whatever happend to conviction politicians.

[Jasandjules]

Because there seems little to choose between them? It's like asking if you want to be hanged or drowned.

What will be most interesting is who might be third and become in effect the power broker... My money is on UKIP right now.

[BGARK]

[Mermaid]

Jasandjules said:

Because there seems little to choose between them? It's like asking if you want to be hanged or drowned.

What will be most interesting is who might be third and become in effect the power broker... My money is on UKIP right now.

[anonymous-user]

Jasandjules said:

Because there seems little to choose between them? It's like asking if you want to be hanged or drowned.

What will be most interesting is who might be third and become in effect the power broker... My money is on UKIP right now.

SNP will get 10x more seats than UKIP
Or more

[ffc]

fblm said:

Because 90% of the public are financially illiterate.

fblm said:

They should be now after 2008 but instead they managed to pin it entirely on 'bankers'. Innit. The Tories missed the big picture though and played along, they probably welcomed any distraction from the expenses scandal at the time. Oh look over there. Bankers are even nastier than us!

Anyway can hardly blame the electorate for not understanding macro-economics, not when MP's, of all colours, are utterly, utterly clueless fvckwits;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7gd6-zfeeaM&fe...

fking morons. Every one of them in that video should be fired.

Edited by fblm on Friday 17th April 16:15

Why do you stay here?

[rs1952]

turbobloke said:

rs1952 said:

Cheese Mechanic said:

Muzzer79 said:

I forgot
5. A lot of Labour voters still have a chip on their shoulder about Thatcher and blame her for what happened to them/their parents/their grandparents.

Yup, fk it , Fecking Fatcher sunk the fecking Titanic,caused the Black Death ennit, ennit, eh?

No. That was all caused by the EU

You didn't get that from the BBC.

That's right. It was in the Express