Let Muslim women wear a full-face veil in court ......

[RyanOPlastry]

Is it Acceptable to go out in public or appear in a courtroom looking like Andy Robinson in Dirty Harry? :

[BGARK]

What mask is acceptable:

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=scary+prosthetic...

[dudleybloke]

BGARK said:

The future of courtooms:

If they walk into a bar it sounds like a joke I heard once.

[johnxjsc1985]

dudleybloke said:

If they walk into a bar it sounds like a joke I heard once.

Jokes are banned now its not PC you know.

[GDub44]

JensenA said:

I'll repeat my question to you. Your point is? Now how about answering it, instead of believing that your view is correct.

Not quite sure what right you have to tell me what I believe. And, funnily enough, I read your question the first time.

[hidetheelephants]

Chimune said:

yawn.

defendant wears veil: only possible damage is to their own case. Their problem.
witness wears veil: their evidence is weighted slightly less than others. Who cares ?

All in all: don't see how this will ever effect 99.5% of the uk population.

Grist to the mill for Islamophobes though !

The majority of muslim women in the UK don't wear a veil, so if I object to it it affects very few people. It's not required by the koran, so it's not a religious issue. The adversarial nature of the UK court system, which has existed for hundreds of years, depends on juries and judges being free to assess witness, plaintiff and accused testimony by their speech, body language and expression, much of which would be obscured by a veil, quite apart from the need for witnesses or plaintiffs to be able to identify themselves, each other or the accused.

[greygoose]

hidetheelephants said:

The majority of muslim women in the UK don't wear a veil, so if I object to it it affects very few people. It's not required by the koran, so it's not a religious issue. The adversarial nature of the UK court system, which has existed for hundreds of years, depends on juries and judges being free to assess witness, plaintiff and accused testimony by their speech, body language and expression, much of which would be obscured by a veil, quite apart from the need for witnesses or plaintiffs to be able to identify themselves, each other or the accused.

I agree it seems bizarre to allow someone to mask their facial expressions in a court for whatever reason.

[Ridgemont]

greygoose said:

hidetheelephants said:

The majority of muslim women in the UK don't wear a veil, so if I object to it it affects very few people. It's not required by the koran, so it's not a religious issue. The adversarial nature of the UK court system, which has existed for hundreds of years, depends on juries and judges being free to assess witness, plaintiff and accused testimony by their speech, body language and expression, much of which would be obscured by a veil, quite apart from the need for witnesses or plaintiffs to be able to identify themselves, each other or the accused.

I agree it seems bizarre to allow someone to mask their facial expressions in a court for whatever reason.

Oooooooh I dunno. I would think it's a bit more fking bizarre that it's *the president of the Supreme Court* arguing this as opposed to Hariet PIE in the sky bloody Harman. Jeez.

[richie99]

Hasn't he simply demonstrated why he is entirely unsuitable to hold the position he does. Perfectly entitled to his views, however mad, but they gave no place in the job he has. What's next? Special courts for weirdos who like to wear masks. We could call them sharia courts perhaps.