Trade union and socialist coalition party

[V8covin]

Dave Nellist fronted their party political broadcast on tv tonight.
One of their policies is for a £10hr minimum wage
A supporter/spokesman said the bosses are the enemy.

Would these be the same bosses who are going to pay £10hr or different bosses ?

Still stuck in the 1970's eh Dave.Bring on the revolution

[caiss4]

Thought I was in a time-warp. Turned it off.

[McWigglebum4th]

We should really have a scheme to let people who don't like the UK to leave the UK

Give them £50K and free flight to anywhere in the world in exchange for their passport and a promise to never return


Then these folk can move to somewhere free like north korea where there is no private enterprise

[thinkofaname]

Dave Nellist? Christ, is he still going?
I'm feeing all nostalgic now. It's an echo from the past, like Duran Duran or Clive Sinclair.

[alock]

V8covin said:

A supporter/spokesman said the bosses are the enemy.

If they won, they would be the bosses for the entire public sector and hence become the enemy.

I've never understood why any political party with close links to unions should actually want power. The very justification for why a union is needed is destroyed if they become the employer.

[anonymous-user]

V8covin said:

One of their policies is for a £10hr minimum wage

I'm not what one would normally call socialist but that hardly seems unreasonable to me

[V8covin]

fblm said:

I'm not what one would normally call socialist but that hardly seems unreasonable to me

Who's going to pay for it ?
At the moment a lot of low paid workers have their wages supplemented....or subsidised depending on your viewpoint...by tax credits.Move the onus onto the employer and you will see thousands of job losses

[wc98]

V8covin said:

Who's going to pay for it ?
At the moment a lot of low paid workers have their wages supplemented....or subsidised depending on your viewpoint...by tax credits.Move the onus onto the employer and you will see thousands of job losses

at the moment a lot of companies are getting their profits subsidised by the tax payer topping up the wages of their low paid employees. it works both ways.

[Scuffers]

Imagine what effect £10 hour would have on the public sector budgets.....

[thinkofaname]

fblm said:

I'm not what one would normally call socialist but that hardly seems unreasonable to me

It is £20K a year. Low-level staff are simply not that productive. It is miles above their actual value to an employer. Hence, far fewer low-level jobs if such a crazy policy were implemented.

[eldar]

fblm said:

I'm not what one would normally call socialist but that hardly seems unreasonable to me

Expect even more zero hour contracts.

[anonymous-user]

V8covin said:

fblm said:

I'm not what one would normally call socialist but that hardly seems unreasonable to me

Who's going to pay for it ?

Customers instead of taxpayers.

[anonymous-user]

Quite an entertaining programme. I wonder how many votes they get?!

[V8covin]

fblm said:

Customers instead of taxpayers.

Selective quoter I see,you should be in the media

[anonymous-user]

V8covin said:

fblm said:

Customers instead of taxpayers.

Selective quoter I see,you should be in the media

I'm quoting the question I'm answering!

[Dr Jekyll]

V8covin said:

A supporter/spokesman said the bosses are the enemy.

Would these be the same bosses who are going to pay £10hr or different bosses ?

Socialist logic, you milk a cow by starving it.

[anonymous-user]

V8covin said:

At the moment a lot of low paid workers have their wages supplemented....or subsidised depending on your viewpoint...by tax credits.

I agree, happy?

V8covin said:

Move the onus onto the employer and you will see thousands of job losses

Lets have companies pay nothing then and have the tax payer top them up even more. Think how many thousands of jobs you'd create! Hmm

[Scuffers]

Wages should be about supply and demand.

The current problem is unlimited supply, so no need to pay.

[thinkofaname]

fblm said:

Lets have companies pay nothing then and have the tax payer top them up even more. Think how many thousands of jobs you'd create! Hmm

False dichotomy. The choice is not between forcing employers to pay some minimum wage vs. employers paying no wage. The argument is about how much should employers pay above the market wage.

[Mr Classic]

Increase wages, stop cuts, and reduce the deficit at the same time? Do they have magic pockets?