Why do you hate the SNP?
Discussion
McWigglebum4th said:
Edinburger said:
Do you honestley believe that? Or do you make these comments for comedic effect?
I honestly believe thatI would love to see the SNP stand up for the UK but i have never seen them do so
arp1 said:
McWigglebum4th said:
Edinburger said:
To be fair, they've never had the opportunity to. Until now, maybe.
Well they could of not tried to lay out the welcome mat to the germans in the 2nd world warWasn't exactly a brilliant start was it
Personally, I've never been to Scotland, and have very little contact with the Scots (couldn't live further away inside the UK). I'd like to see them stay in the UK, as I think the Union works stronger as a whole. But, I can't support that, knowing that a relatively large proportion of their residents want independence, and their main political party is spreading anti unionist propaganda.
I hate the SNP because they aren't a team player - anything they achieve to benefit Scotland is going to be at the expense of the rUK.
"Vote UKIP, get labour" would become "Vote UKIP, get labour. Vote Con, get labour anyway".
On the plus side, both lab and con would hemorrhage voters before the next election.
ks at the time. The SNP won't stop their poisonous behaviour until they get Scotland out of the union. It's an almost certain conclusion unfortunately, the only question is the matter of timing.
It really is a case of the tail wagging the dog (also shown by all the concessions put on the table during the referendum). The up side to that is it shows those lifelong Lab/Con voters that a vote for the smaller parties isn't necessarily a wasted vote.
I hate the SNP because they aren't a team player - anything they achieve to benefit Scotland is going to be at the expense of the rUK.
simoid said:
Is a Labour-Tory coalition the worst outcome here?
The biggest problem is that a Lab-Con co would practically destroy any remaining credibility in the uk political system. For all the life long dyed in the wool tory and labour voters that would be doing a deal with the devil. Look what the Con-LD co did for lib dem support after 2010."Vote UKIP, get labour" would become "Vote UKIP, get labour. Vote Con, get labour anyway".
On the plus side, both lab and con would hemorrhage voters before the next election.
Rick_1138 said:
The big issue we have up here is that the majority of Yes voters will vote SNP, as they still offer the only way to a second referendum.
I realize this is how FPTP works, but its scary that the minority in the referendum AND the election can claim to speak for 'all' of Scotland
I seem to remember Alex Salmond saying the SNP would respect the referendum result and that it was a once in a generation referendum. Anyone with a brain could see that was lies and utter bI realize this is how FPTP works, but its scary that the minority in the referendum AND the election can claim to speak for 'all' of Scotland
ks at the time. The SNP won't stop their poisonous behaviour until they get Scotland out of the union. It's an almost certain conclusion unfortunately, the only question is the matter of timing.It really is a case of the tail wagging the dog (also shown by all the concessions put on the table during the referendum). The up side to that is it shows those lifelong Lab/Con voters that a vote for the smaller parties isn't necessarily a wasted vote.
Some Gump said:
FWIW to any scottish readers - Kermit doesn't speak for all of the UK.
I love scotland. I quite like most scots. I can't see any upside of devolution and loads of downsides - for both sides of the border.
However, the thought that a minority party with an agenda like the SNP's getting huge power in westminster worries and saddens me. I'm sure it's democracy if they get in, but a pretty screwed up one - since less than 50% of scotland (in turn is 8% of england) wanted the yes vote, this means that policies for the whole will be dictated by nutters who account for at most 6% of the population, and more likely 4%.
I can't see any upside to devolution either, but can you really read back what you just wrote and not see an upside (from an English perspective) to Scottish independence???I love scotland. I quite like most scots. I can't see any upside of devolution and loads of downsides - for both sides of the border.
However, the thought that a minority party with an agenda like the SNP's getting huge power in westminster worries and saddens me. I'm sure it's democracy if they get in, but a pretty screwed up one - since less than 50% of scotland (in turn is 8% of england) wanted the yes vote, this means that policies for the whole will be dictated by nutters who account for at most 6% of the population, and more likely 4%.
I hate the SNP because they are the distilled essence of every whiny, bitter, 'its so much better in Scotland' but work in Bristol, chip on the shoulder, ultra-nationalist cock sockets I've had to put up with through my short working career.
Nothing would make me happier than throwing up Hadrian Mk2 and never hearing that bloody accent or seeing the wrinkled shrew that is Sturgeon ever again.
Apologies to reasonable, sensible scots. Both of you.
Nothing would make me happier than throwing up Hadrian Mk2 and never hearing that bloody accent or seeing the wrinkled shrew that is Sturgeon ever again.
Apologies to reasonable, sensible scots. Both of you.
I don't hate the SNP. I try not to hate anything really because it is such a negative, damaging emotion.
The SNP do what the SNP do because the CAN! And that's because a large % of the Scottish electorate reward the SNP for behaving in the way that they do.
If it were not for the fact so many Scots share the SNPs contempt for rUK then the SNP would not be able to peddle the lies, hatred and prejudices that they do - because lets face it those lies, that hatred and those prejudices are lapped up by SNP supporters is if it were the nectar of the Gods.
The only way to save the Union is for millions of Scots who would have voted Labour to vote Tory. Think about it. As far fetched as it sounds a substantial Tory presence in Scotland would be the finest bulwark against SNP claims that to be Conservative is a phenomenon only present south of the border.
All NO voters in the referendum should vote Conservative.. You know I am right!
The SNP do what the SNP do because the CAN! And that's because a large % of the Scottish electorate reward the SNP for behaving in the way that they do.
If it were not for the fact so many Scots share the SNPs contempt for rUK then the SNP would not be able to peddle the lies, hatred and prejudices that they do - because lets face it those lies, that hatred and those prejudices are lapped up by SNP supporters is if it were the nectar of the Gods.
The only way to save the Union is for millions of Scots who would have voted Labour to vote Tory. Think about it. As far fetched as it sounds a substantial Tory presence in Scotland would be the finest bulwark against SNP claims that to be Conservative is a phenomenon only present south of the border.
All NO voters in the referendum should vote Conservative.. You know I am right!
arp1 said:
As did chamberlain so what's you point?
Chamberlain appeased the Germans prior to, and to help try to avaoid hostilities. SNP figures were arrested in 1941 , during hostilities , under defence regulation 18b , which allowed Nazi sympathisers to be detained. Huge difference.
arp1 said:
McWigglebum4th said:
Edinburger said:
To be fair, they've never had the opportunity to. Until now, maybe.
Well they could of not tried to lay out the welcome mat to the germans in the 2nd world warWasn't exactly a brilliant start was it
Cheese Mechanic said:
arp1 said:
As did chamberlain so what's you point?
Chamberlain appeased the Germans prior to, and to help try to avaoid hostilities. SNP figures were arrested in 1941 , during hostilities , under defence regulation 18b , which allowed Nazi sympathisers to be detained. Huge difference.
simoid said:
Cheese Mechanic said:
I feel differently to that, although I can understand your reasoning. Were there a vote to eject Scotland from the Union, I would vote No. Quite simply because the majority of Scots are decent people, and I would not wish to potentially alienate/ punish them because they have an SNP turd in their swimming pool.
I think the long term solution is for the SNP to have enough rope to hang themselves, ie more control than they can handle.The SNP MP candidates that I've seen so far appear to be utter bam pots. The obvious danger with that plan is that they could f
k the country's recovery for a good wee while.MOD looking at potentially resiting Trident at Gibraltar. All because of the SNP hysterics.
http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/572986/Gibralt...
Easy way for the SNP to cost the country 1000's of jobs. fking idiots.
http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/572986/Gibralt...
Easy way for the SNP to cost the country 1000's of jobs. f
king idiots. Cheese Mechanic said:
MOD looking at potentially resiting Trident at Gibraltar. All because of the SNP hysterics.
http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/572986/Gibralt...
Easy way for the SNP to cost the country 1000's of jobs. fking idiots.
That would be two fingers to the Spanish though, looking on the brightside. http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/572986/Gibralt...
Easy way for the SNP to cost the country 1000's of jobs. f
king idiots. 
Funk said:
simoid said:
Cheese Mechanic said:
I feel differently to that, although I can understand your reasoning. Were there a vote to eject Scotland from the Union, I would vote No. Quite simply because the majority of Scots are decent people, and I would not wish to potentially alienate/ punish them because they have an SNP turd in their swimming pool.
I think the long term solution is for the SNP to have enough rope to hang themselves, ie more control than they can handle.The SNP MP candidates that I've seen so far appear to be utter bam pots. The obvious danger with that plan is that they could f
k the country's recovery for a good wee while.arp1 said:
Funk said:
simoid said:
Cheese Mechanic said:
I feel differently to that, although I can understand your reasoning. Were there a vote to eject Scotland from the Union, I would vote No. Quite simply because the majority of Scots are decent people, and I would not wish to potentially alienate/ punish them because they have an SNP turd in their swimming pool.
I think the long term solution is for the SNP to have enough rope to hang themselves, ie more control than they can handle.The SNP MP candidates that I've seen so far appear to be utter bam pots. The obvious danger with that plan is that they could f
k the country's recovery for a good wee while.The plan facts are that if the SNP want to have a mandate to direct policy for the UK, let them field candidates across the UK.
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