Japanese train breaks world speed record @ 374mph

Japanese train breaks world speed record @ 374mph

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HCMH

460 posts

222 months

Wednesday 22nd April 2015
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I have had the pleasure of experiencing the Maglev train in Shanghai a few times and it really is a remarkable thing - it accelerates to 400km/h rapidly and you really feel the speed, unlike other high speed trains I have been on. It has the potential to transform travel times between cities, awesome bit of kit!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shanghai_Maglev_Train

Otispunkmeyer

12,599 posts

156 months

Wednesday 22nd April 2015
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Scuffers said:
sebhaque said:
I do find the concept of Maglev very interesting, I seem to recall reading about Maglevs operating in vacuum tunnels for silly speed, the realism of this I'm still not sure about yet though.
That man Elon Musk again! (Space X, Tesla cars, etc)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperloop
I'd heard about such an idea long before Musk put his oar in. This stuff isn't a new idea.

-crookedtail-

1,563 posts

191 months

Wednesday 22nd April 2015
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HCMH said:
I have had the pleasure of experiencing the Maglev train in Shanghai a few times and it really is a remarkable thing - it accelerates to 400km/h rapidly and you really feel the speed, unlike other high speed trains I have been on. It has the potential to transform travel times between cities, awesome bit of kit!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shanghai_Maglev_Train
That drivers cabin though, looks like somebodies loft conversion. hehe


Scuffers

20,887 posts

275 months

Wednesday 22nd April 2015
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Otispunkmeyer said:
I'd heard about such an idea long before Musk put his oar in. This stuff isn't a new idea.
Your right of course, however, he has a track record of actual getting on with stuff.

If you think about, very little is actually new these days.

HCMH

460 posts

222 months

Wednesday 22nd April 2015
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-crookedtail- said:
HCMH said:
I have had the pleasure of experiencing the Maglev train in Shanghai a few times and it really is a remarkable thing - it accelerates to 400km/h rapidly and you really feel the speed, unlike other high speed trains I have been on. It has the potential to transform travel times between cities, awesome bit of kit!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shanghai_Maglev_Train
That drivers cabin though, looks like somebodies loft conversion. hehe

That has to be a piss take....couple of Velux windows, dodgy skirting plus portable fan!

qube_TA

8,402 posts

246 months

Wednesday 22nd April 2015
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Given that this is all fancy and computer controlled, and that it could stop in a heartbeat due to low friction.

What if cyber-baddies hacked the controls and remotely yanked on the brakes when it was at full speed, you could squash everyone in the train without it hitting anything.

There's a nice B-Movie script there smile




FredClogs

14,041 posts

162 months

Wednesday 22nd April 2015
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qube_TA said:
Given that this is all fancy and computer controlled, and that it could stop in a heartbeat due to low friction.

What if cyber-baddies hacked the controls and remotely yanked on the brakes when it was at full speed, you could squash everyone in the train without it hitting anything.

There's a nice B-Movie script there smile
Well it doesn't work like that but since when did that stop Hollywood?

J4CKO

41,608 posts

201 months

Wednesday 22nd April 2015
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Shouldn't HS2 be a Maglev system ?

Is it too expensive ?

FredClogs

14,041 posts

162 months

Wednesday 22nd April 2015
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J4CKO said:
Shouldn't HS2 be a Maglev system ?

Is it too expensive ?
Ha ha ha ha...

Yeah good one.

(I think the reality is that trains this fast require extremely straight/flat track and all new track will need to be built for maglev, due to nimbyism and the general short sightedness of UK politicians and the general public HS2 is going to use sections and stations on the existing 150 year old network)

PhillipM

6,524 posts

190 months

Wednesday 22nd April 2015
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qube_TA said:
Given that this is all fancy and computer controlled, and that it could stop in a heartbeat due to low friction.

What if cyber-baddies hacked the controls and remotely yanked on the brakes when it was at full speed, you could squash everyone in the train without it hitting anything.

There's a nice B-Movie script there smile
I think that's gonna have to be a z-list movie.

herewego

8,814 posts

214 months

Wednesday 22nd April 2015
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I think there would be a lot more HS2 supporters if it were to be maglev.

Gargamel

14,995 posts

262 months

Wednesday 22nd April 2015
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herewego said:
I think there would be a lot more HS2 supporters if it were to be maglev.
I guess it would be attractive to some, but polarising to others.

McWigglebum4th

32,414 posts

205 months

Wednesday 22nd April 2015
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Gargamel said:
I guess it would be attractive to some, but polarising to others.
But they would always be poles apart over such an electrifying issue

Scuffers

20,887 posts

275 months

Wednesday 22nd April 2015
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McWigglebum4th said:
But they would always be poles apart over such an electrifying issue
OUCH!

R8Steve

4,150 posts

176 months

Wednesday 22nd April 2015
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Digga said:
FredClogs said:
castex said:
Digga said:
I'm envisaging a scenario similar to when your thumb slips off a jet-ski throttle at full tilt.
Go on then, what happens?
Well you sink, but in the case of a maglev train you have several hundred tons (I presume) of metal hitting the metal rail at 340mph... There must be some sort of safety wheels in operation but still the and possible deceleration and heat from the friction seems frightening to me (obviously I'm no expert, people must have done some sums)
If only it were that simple; the jet-ski stops (seemingly) dead and you hurtle over the bars and hit the water which, if you're shifting, feels like concrete. At which point you don't really know which way is up but, if you had the sense to put on a lifejacket, you'll survive.

What you say about the train weight, friction and retardation are good points though; I do wonder how these effects could possibly be countered.
I'm not sure what kind of jet skis you are all using but if you let go the throttle at full tilt it won't hurtle you over the bars and it definitely won't sink! confused

tvrforever

3,182 posts

266 months

Wednesday 22nd April 2015
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These are not maglev systems - but magnetically propelled systems and they are much more likely to have a real world impact in majority of locations :-

Snow, Ice & seriously low temperature transit (much more appropriate for Europe) :-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mVyWmDCTfRs

Using magnetic propulsion for pipeline transport & logistics :-
http://www.molesolutions.co.uk/how-it-works/

And if you want to understand the basics of maglev, here's Eric explaining simply how travelling wave magnetics work :-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OI_HFnNTfyU

durbster

10,277 posts

223 months

Wednesday 22nd April 2015
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Otispunkmeyer said:
I'd heard about such an idea long before Musk put his oar in. This stuff isn't a new idea.
I don't think he ever said he invented it.

I'm a big fan of Musk. A billionaire who's actually using his money to change the world. What he's doing with Tesla is fascinating and I think they have the potential to pull the rug out from under the established car makers.

I'd love to see the Hyperloop pay off. Trains are st.

TwigtheWonderkid

43,398 posts

151 months

Wednesday 22nd April 2015
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KrazyIvan said:
Imagine it here, London to Manchester in under an hour.
Nooooo!

Manchester to London in under an hour, brilliant. But going the other way, I'm in no hurry to get there.

MarshPhantom

9,658 posts

138 months

Wednesday 22nd April 2015
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This thing makes HS2 look like the DLR - back to the drawing board.

anonymous-user

55 months

Wednesday 22nd April 2015
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tvrforever said:
These are not maglev systems - but magnetically propelled systems and they are much more likely to have a real world impact in majority of locations :-

Snow, Ice & seriously low temperature transit (much more appropriate for Europe) :-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mVyWmDCTfRs

Using magnetic propulsion for pipeline transport & logistics :-
http://www.molesolutions.co.uk/how-it-works/

And if you want to understand the basics of maglev, here's Eric explaining simply how travelling wave magnetics work :-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OI_HFnNTfyU
Thanks for posting those, really interesting.