Predictions for the General Election

Predictions for the General Election

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deadslow

7,962 posts

222 months

Friday 24th April 2015
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JustAnotherLogin said:
Timmy40 said:
JustAnotherLogin said:
SNP will play very hardball, will Miliband cave in? On balance I think he will, in the hope of getting his way after he has got the Queen's speech through on a confidence & supply vote
From the man who is already in hock to the Unions as the price for the leadership ( which his brother would have won without the Union Block vote being against him ) I think Ed would agree to wear a kilt at all times and change the National Anthem to Bonnie Prince Charlie if it meant grabbing power, even if fleetingly.
Remember that joining forces with the SNP stands a good chance of leading to Scottish Independence. WHich would make it harder for Labour to get a majority in the future, so its a risky game for them.

Not so for SNP who could play absolute hard ball.
I think the way Cameron is demonising the SNP, who are the democratically elected government of Scotland and look like returning a load of MPs, is more dangerous to the union. Fear can turn to hate, and I think these tactics have no place in UK politics.

McWigglebum4th

32,414 posts

203 months

Friday 24th April 2015
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deadslow said:
McWigglebum4th said:
We end up with a labour/ Scottish nazi party coalition
You really do seem a most unpleasant individual
Yep

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I fking hate the scum that wish to destroy my country

NicD

3,281 posts

256 months

Friday 24th April 2015
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deadslow said:
I think the way Cameron is demonising the SNP, who are the democratically elected government of Scotland and look like returning a load of MPs, is more dangerous to the union. Fear can turn to hate, and I think these tactics have no place in UK politics.
The SNP bigmouths demonise themself, they don't need any help.

johnxjsc1985

15,948 posts

163 months

Friday 24th April 2015
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deadslow said:
I think the way Cameron is demonising the SNP, who are the democratically elected government of Scotland and look like returning a load of MPs, is more dangerous to the union. Fear can turn to hate, and I think these tactics have no place in UK politics.
how is he demonising them?

McWigglebum4th

32,414 posts

203 months

Friday 24th April 2015
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deadslow said:
I think the way Cameron is demonising the SNP, who are the democratically elected government of Scotland and look like returning a load of MPs, is more dangerous to the union. Fear can turn to hate, and I think these tactics have no place in UK politics.
The SNP want the Scottish to be hated

If they can make it so that keeping Scotland in the union is a vote loser with 90% of England then no mainstream party would even entertain supporting a NO vote in the 2018 independence referendum

anonymous-user

53 months

Friday 24th April 2015
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McWigglebum4th said:
deadslow said:
McWigglebum4th said:
We end up with a labour/ Scottish nazi party coalition
You really do seem a most unpleasant individual
Yep

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I fking hate the scum that wish to destroy my country
Well you're certainly doing your best to make them look rational and reasonable by comparison.

deadslow

7,962 posts

222 months

Friday 24th April 2015
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johnxjsc1985 said:
deadslow said:
I think the way Cameron is demonising the SNP, who are the democratically elected government of Scotland and look like returning a load of MPs, is more dangerous to the union. Fear can turn to hate, and I think these tactics have no place in UK politics.
how is he demonising them?
They are never off the lips of the Tory front bench, and nothing positive. Being used as bogey men to scare English undecideds.

johnxjsc1985

15,948 posts

163 months

Friday 24th April 2015
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McWigglebum4th said:
The SNP want the Scottish to be hated

If they can make it so that keeping Scotland in the union is a vote loser with 90% of England then no mainstream party would even entertain supporting a NO vote in the 2018 independence referendum
what happend to the Union anything good that came from this country is because of the union.
When did the Scots become socialist outside of the Glasgow shipyards they were the origin of "conservative"
Sad times for me when they seem to have one desire kill the union at any cost

deadslow

7,962 posts

222 months

Friday 24th April 2015
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McWigglebum4th said:
deadslow said:
McWigglebum4th said:
We end up with a labour/ Scottish nazi party coalition
You really do seem a most unpleasant individual
Yep

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I fking hate the scum that wish to destroy my country
Do you not see that describing people of a different political persuasion as scum and nazis makes you sound unhinged?

anonymous-user

53 months

Friday 24th April 2015
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Labour & SNP narrowly win. An almighty fk up from the outset. Another election, Boris PM by Christmas 2015.

johnxjsc1985

15,948 posts

163 months

Friday 24th April 2015
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Jimboka said:
Labour & SNP narrowly win. An almighty fk up from the outset. Another election, Boris PM by Christmas 2015.
I could believe that

JustAnotherLogin

1,127 posts

120 months

Friday 24th April 2015
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deadslow said:
They are never off the lips of the Tory front bench, and nothing positive. Being used as bogey men to scare English undecideds.
To be fair the Tories have been the bogeymen to the SNP for a lot longer. As indeed have pretty much everyone in the south of England.

deadslow

7,962 posts

222 months

Friday 24th April 2015
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JustAnotherLogin said:
deadslow said:
They are never off the lips of the Tory front bench, and nothing positive. Being used as bogey men to scare English undecideds.
To be fair the Tories have been the bogeymen to the SNP for a lot longer. As indeed have pretty much everyone in the south of England.
Yes, agreed. Thatcher really started all that, and not just in Scotland. But, if folks are wanting to be sensible, they ought to stop giving the impression Scotland is a communist enclave. Its just another very ordinary bit of the UK.

McWigglebum4th

32,414 posts

203 months

Friday 24th April 2015
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deadslow said:
Yes, agreed. Thatcher really started all that, and not just in Scotland. But, if folks are wanting to be sensible, they ought to stop giving the impression Scotland is a communist enclave. Its just another very ordinary bit of the UK.
Try telling the NATs that Scotland is fundamentally the same as England

They even have commissioned surveys to try and prove the moral superority of the Scottish over the english

brenflys777

Original Poster:

2,678 posts

176 months

Saturday 25th April 2015
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As reflected in my OP prediction the SNP seem to overshadow any debate but I'm not convinced it will be reflected in the results.

The media, Conservatives & Labour all have reasons to inflate the SNPs chances, I hope they are proved wrong, but my exposure to Scottish politics is from Scots who live and work in England.

arp1

583 posts

126 months

Saturday 25th April 2015
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I can really see labour and conservative teaming up to 'prevent' unruly Scots 'taking over' westminister...

deadslow

7,962 posts

222 months

Saturday 25th April 2015
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I can really see labour and snp teaming up to 'prevent' unruly Toffs 'taking over' westminister...hehe

arp1

583 posts

126 months

Saturday 25th April 2015
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Wouldn't be a bad thing wud it, but realistic? The old boys network will be out at full force!

Wills2

22,669 posts

174 months

Sunday 26th April 2015
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Tories are the largest party (just) so they form a government with the Libdems with support from DUP.

My thoughts on that are, the system that holds back libdem seats when they do well should also limit their losses in reverse. The Tories will also need at least 300 seats to make it work.

Lab/SNP government will have no mandate in the RUK it would be a shambles.


eldar

21,614 posts

195 months

Sunday 26th April 2015
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Wills2 said:
Lab/SNP government will have no mandate in the RUK it would be a shambles.

Why not? Scotland is as much part of the UK as London. Ms Sturgeon makes as much noise as Mr Johnston. If people cared they would vote rather than not bother.