Election result is now abundantly clear

[JustAnotherLogin]

Scuffers said:

Well, according to panorama's top US expert, UKIP will get 1 seat.

Yea, right...

You don't think they'll get any?

You could be right

personally I think they'll get 2 though

[JustAnotherLogin]

oyster said:

With 10 days to go, the polls are stuck. They haven't shifted in weeks.

Ironically posted on the day Ashcroft shows the biggest movement for months

Apparently down to soft-Kippers moving/returning allegiance to Tories to keep Lab/SNP out

Or a statistical anomaly. Time will tell

[mondeoman]

The idea of a Lab/SNP coalition scares the crap out of me, so I think that the lesser of two evils means a Con vote rather than UKIP sadly.

[DJRC]

UKIP 5 tops, most likely 3.

[simoid]

Tories and Labour to team up to avoid working with minor party?


What about Tories + LibDem + those Northern Irish folk, that could be close to a majority government,

[eatcustard]

Whoever is in power, we will all suffer.

[McWigglebum4th]

eatcustard said:

Whoever is in power, we will all suffer.

Bingo

The people that will lose is anyone who works in the UK

[Cheese Mechanic]

mondeoman said:

The idea of a Lab/SNP coalition scares the crap out of me, so I think that the lesser of two evils means a Con vote rather than UKIP sadly.

In the same boat here. The thought of another bunch of Trades Union prompted Labour wreckers is bad enough , but with the SNP loons its positively frightening.

After years of my berating them , both my kids are voting for the first time in their lives , they take little notice of current afairs, yet even they look at Miliband as a dangerous nutter. Lets hope that occurs all over the country.

[NailedOn]

Unite Union is now openly backing SNP/Labour deal.
Len McClusky is the puppeteer.

[steveatesh]

Cheese Mechanic said:

In the same boat here. The thought of another bunch of Trades Union prompted Labour wreckers is bad enough , but with the SNP loons its positively frightening.

After years of my berating them , both my kids are voting for the first time in their lives , they take little notice of current afairs, yet even they look at Miliband as a dangerous nutter. Lets hope that occurs all over the country.

My two have self selected UKIP or Tory, I'm pleased to say. My mrs has decided not to vote (first time since she was 18). As she believes none of them are trustworthy and are all the same.

Realistically I live in a seat where a turnip could be put in for labour and it would be elected, so it's just a matter of principal for me.

[IainT]

NailedOn said:

Unite Union is now openly backing SNP/Labour deal.
Len McClusky is the puppeteer.

Hopefully this will scare people back to Tory or Lib Dem. The alternative of Lab/SNP happening is truly scary.

[Scuffers]

After the Grangemouth debarke with Unite, I am amazed the SNP would want anything to do with them?

[ewenm]

Scuffers said:

After the Grangemouth debarke with Unite, I am amazed the SNP would want anything to do with them?

Potential for future money and/or power overrides principles or past experience.

[Ridgemont]

Not only is Ashcroft seeing a significant shift, but there's an interesting analysis here:

http://www.markpack.org.uk/131623/look-at-each-pol...

Essentially the argument is that the media are looking down the wrong end of the telescope re the polling results showing
1) bumping between a lab & con lead
2) no overall lead

If you breakdown the polls they have been consistent;

ICM, Ashcroft, ComRes all have tories at av 2.3% to 3% lead.

Panelbase, Populous, MORI all have Labour at av 1.5% to 2% lead.

Yougov, TNS all over the shop.

If I was a betting man, I'd say Ashcroft and ICM are the ones to look at; they're phone polling, and are pretty well respected. I'm hugely suspicious of Panelbase as their internet polling was pretty dire during the Indy Ref, consistently overweighting the SNP. In fact my suspicion (albeit with low evidence - see http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/home-news/new-r... is that the online pollsters are skewing the overall picture. I can't prove it, but I'm aware of attempts to deliberately skew the poll selections on the online pollsters.

[Jinx]

Asterix said:

Kermit power said:

McWigglebum4th said:

Nobody told me I was standing???

You must be standing - how do you sit with a fist up yer jacksie?

Gingerly - very gingerly.....

[JuniorD]

simoid said:

What about Tories + LibDem + those Northern Irish folk, that could be close to a majority government,

I don't think LibDem would touch the DUP (if that's who you mean) with a stty stick, given Clegg's comments about the "truly, truly, backward looking views from the DUP.” in connection with their bible-bashing attitude to homosexuality.

I also think Cameron would think twice too as the DUP have blocked gay marriage in NI, and have a wish list that reads like a Santa's letter from the KKK.

[4v6]

IainT said:

Hopefully this will scare people back to Tory or Lib Dem. The alternative of Lab/SNP happening is truly scary.

Whats more scary is that folks like you dont appear to grasp the fact that it makes no bleeding difference which of the main three you vote for.

Youve fallen into the trap ( which appears to work every-single-time) of thinking one is "better" or more "worthy" than the other- theyre not theyre in it for themselves and for their own egos and legacies and you dont even register as a blip on their radar when it comes to them giving a st about you!

Wake the heck up!

[IainT]

4v6 said:

Whats more scary is that folks like you dont appear to grasp the fact that it makes no bleeding difference which of the main three you vote for.

Youve fallen into the trap ( which appears to work every-single-time) of thinking one is "better" or more "worthy" than the other- theyre not theyre in it for themselves and for their own egos and legacies and you dont even register as a blip on their radar when it comes to them giving a st about you!

Wake the heck up!

What's even more scary is that folks like you seem to think the holy institution that is UKIP is going to be any different where the reality is they'll be worse in every respect - adding incompetence to incoherence with a fat dose of self-interest and extended old-boys networking. I think you're utterly naive to put Farage and Co up on a pedestal with their random pick'n'mix policies not chosen to be workable but simple to be populist no matter the cost. The UK leaving Europe makes no more sense than Scotland leaving the UK - UKIPs opposing views on the two issues show how muddle-headed they are.

I've not fallen for any traps - I know our politicians can be held to a higher level than they are and that no party is the solution. If I were writing a report card it'd resemble many of mine from the 80s - "could do better". What I do think is that the Tories are the least worst of the lot and, in coalition with the Lib Dems we actually have something that's working better than we've had. Long-term a move to consensus politics will be good for the country.

[Rude-boy]

JustAnotherLogin said:

oyster said:

With 10 days to go, the polls are stuck. They haven't shifted in weeks.

Ironically posted on the day Ashcroft shows the biggest movement for months

Apparently down to soft-Kippers moving/returning allegiance to Tories to keep Lab/SNP out

Or a statistical anomaly. Time will tell

I have no idea what is going to happen but I do know that there are a lot of people in my fairly safe Conservative area who have already said in the last 2 weeks that they would vote/were going to vote for UKIP if it was going to be a clear Conservative victory but as it all seems a bit too close to call they are going to go with the Conservatives rather than risk a Labour/SNP clusterfk.

[simoid]

If every UKIP and Tory fan votes Tory we'll all be just fine