Less attractive women whinging about attractive advert lady
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popeyewhite said:
WinstonWolf said:
Art0ir said:
Metabolism is largely controlled by insulin and leptin, both which can largely be controlled through diet and exercise.
Just sayin'
And age, which you can't control...Just sayin'
My younger daughter is on her feet all day as a midwife, spends long hours without food and then fails to make up the missed meals. She eats probably a third less than her elder daughter. Given her job, she has little time for sport, or anything else come to that. She is borderline overweight.
Neither daughter drinks.
It's all very odd. I don't know why, and nor to those who suggest it is all about how much you eat and how much exercise you perform.
My son plays rugby semi professionally. He trains every day. His job is more or less as a PT instructor. His weight remains the same regardless of what he eats, and he eats a lot. He once had four eggs before training. Then had two bacon sandwiches after, returned to my place, and ate two more eggs, and probably would have had more had there been any left.
The only time he lost weight was when he was ill for nearly two weeks, a virus. Once over the illness he put on weight rapidly despite having a reduced appetite at first.
When I was a kid I used to weigh 13 stone and was 6'3". I would, as my mother said, 'eat all day, every day". I remember being weighed when I applied for a job. The scales said 13 stone 5 ounces. I told the doctor his scales were out as I never went over 13:2. He had them checked and discovered that I was right.
Fast forward 40 years and I eat a third of what I did then by way of calorific value. I cycle, I walk about 8 miles a week in addition, although I do spend a lot of time in front of a VDU. I was ill for a while and the pills made me lethargic and I went up to over 19 stone. I'm now below 18 stone. I went on a diet for some months and lost nearly 3" around the waist but very little in weight, <7lb. I went on holiday and put it all back in a fortnight.
I've read a lot of medical research on weight gain and loss and some of it is contrary to my experience and that of my family. It really is a case of horses for courses.
Derek Smith said:
My younger daughter is on her feet all day as a midwife, spends long hours without food and then fails to make up the missed meals. She eats probably a third less than her elder daughter. Given her job, she has little time for sport, or anything else come to that. She is borderline overweight.
She is probably eating more than your older daughter. I'd say that they both need to diarise their complete food intake to establish things but I suspect your younger daughter is far too busy, given her job. Sneaking in a biscuit here and there will make a difference - unless it's a dull, plain biscuit; even a boring digestive biscuit has 70 calories and it's very easy to eat 10 throughout the day which would equate to one medium meal for a female adult. A mug of white tea with sugar could go over the 100kcal mark. Drink 7-8 mugs a day, that's another meal.Hoofy said:
Derek Smith said:
My younger daughter is on her feet all day as a midwife, spends long hours without food and then fails to make up the missed meals. She eats probably a third less than her elder daughter. Given her job, she has little time for sport, or anything else come to that. She is borderline overweight.
She is probably eating more than your older daughter. I'd say that they both need to diarise their complete food intake to establish things but I suspect your younger daughter is far too busy, given her job. Sneaking in a biscuit here and there will make a difference - unless it's a dull, plain biscuit; even a boring digestive biscuit has 70 calories and it's very easy to eat 10 throughout the day which would equate to one medium meal for a female adult. A mug of white tea with sugar could go over the 100kcal mark. Drink 7-8 mugs a day, that's another meal.
Hoofy said:
Derek Smith said:
My younger daughter is on her feet all day as a midwife, spends long hours without food and then fails to make up the missed meals. She eats probably a third less than her elder daughter. Given her job, she has little time for sport, or anything else come to that. She is borderline overweight.
She is probably eating more than your older daughter. I'd say that they both need to diarise their complete food intake to establish things but I suspect your younger daughter is far too busy, given her job. Sneaking in a biscuit here and there will make a difference - unless it's a dull, plain biscuit; even a boring digestive biscuit has 70 calories and it's very easy to eat 10 throughout the day which would equate to one medium meal for a female adult. A mug of white tea with sugar could go over the 100kcal mark. Drink 7-8 mugs a day, that's another meal.
Plus my experience of midwives is that their mouths are rarely far from a piece of cake or a chocolate
Derek Smith said:
I've read a lot of medical research on weight gain and loss and some of it is contrary to my experience and that of my family. It really is a case of horses for courses.
I think the experts themselves know very little, and I'm talking about the doctors/nutritionists/scientists etc. They themselves still don't know at a biochemical level exactly what goes on. I think they only discovered recently for example, that fat eventually exits the body by respiration at the end of it's process.It's very clear that in general, that excess calories cause weight gain in most people, but it's also very clear that some people just won't put on weight regardless of what they eat. While others really do have to manage and keep diaries to keep their weight down. This is definitely a difference between people.
thehawk said:
Derek Smith said:
I've read a lot of medical research on weight gain and loss and some of it is contrary to my experience and that of my family. It really is a case of horses for courses.
I think the experts themselves know very little, and I'm talking about the doctors/nutritionists/scientists etc. They themselves still don't know at a biochemical level exactly what goes on. I think they only discovered recently for example, that fat eventually exits the body by respiration at the end of it's process.It's very clear that in general, that excess calories cause weight gain in most people, but it's also very clear that some people just won't put on weight regardless of what they eat. While others really do have to manage and keep diaries to keep their weight down. This is definitely a difference between people.
Regarding the original advert, the Daily Mash pretty much nailed it.
http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/society/protein...
Derek Smith said:
I have two daughters, one of whom has a healthy appetite according to her, although you and I would suggests she eats a lot. She works in an office all day. She has two kids and no longer has time for the sport she used to enjoy. She is, in my view, underweight.
My younger daughter is on her feet all day as a midwife, spends long hours without food and then fails to make up the missed meals. She eats probably a third less than her elder daughter. Given her job, she has little time for sport, or anything else come to that. She is borderline overweight.
Neither daughter drinks.
It's all very odd. I don't know why, and nor to those who suggest it is all about how much you eat and how much exercise you perform.
My son plays rugby semi professionally. He trains every day. His job is more or less as a PT instructor. His weight remains the same regardless of what he eats, and he eats a lot. He once had four eggs before training. Then had two bacon sandwiches after, returned to my place, and ate two more eggs, and probably would have had more had there been any left.
The only time he lost weight was when he was ill for nearly two weeks, a virus. Once over the illness he put on weight rapidly despite having a reduced appetite at first.
When I was a kid I used to weigh 13 stone and was 6'3". I would, as my mother said, 'eat all day, every day". I remember being weighed when I applied for a job. The scales said 13 stone 5 ounces. I told the doctor his scales were out as I never went over 13:2. He had them checked and discovered that I was right.
Fast forward 40 years and I eat a third of what I did then by way of calorific value. I cycle, I walk about 8 miles a week in addition, although I do spend a lot of time in front of a VDU. I was ill for a while and the pills made me lethargic and I went up to over 19 stone. I'm now below 18 stone. I went on a diet for some months and lost nearly 3" around the waist but very little in weight, <7lb. I went on holiday and put it all back in a fortnight.
I've read a lot of medical research on weight gain and loss and some of it is contrary to my experience and that of my family. It really is a case of horses for courses.
Whilst there are obviously individual variations, the law of thermodynamics comes to the fore. If we really could gain mass without caloric input we could produce a human powered perpetual engine....My younger daughter is on her feet all day as a midwife, spends long hours without food and then fails to make up the missed meals. She eats probably a third less than her elder daughter. Given her job, she has little time for sport, or anything else come to that. She is borderline overweight.
Neither daughter drinks.
It's all very odd. I don't know why, and nor to those who suggest it is all about how much you eat and how much exercise you perform.
My son plays rugby semi professionally. He trains every day. His job is more or less as a PT instructor. His weight remains the same regardless of what he eats, and he eats a lot. He once had four eggs before training. Then had two bacon sandwiches after, returned to my place, and ate two more eggs, and probably would have had more had there been any left.
The only time he lost weight was when he was ill for nearly two weeks, a virus. Once over the illness he put on weight rapidly despite having a reduced appetite at first.
When I was a kid I used to weigh 13 stone and was 6'3". I would, as my mother said, 'eat all day, every day". I remember being weighed when I applied for a job. The scales said 13 stone 5 ounces. I told the doctor his scales were out as I never went over 13:2. He had them checked and discovered that I was right.
Fast forward 40 years and I eat a third of what I did then by way of calorific value. I cycle, I walk about 8 miles a week in addition, although I do spend a lot of time in front of a VDU. I was ill for a while and the pills made me lethargic and I went up to over 19 stone. I'm now below 18 stone. I went on a diet for some months and lost nearly 3" around the waist but very little in weight, <7lb. I went on holiday and put it all back in a fortnight.
I've read a lot of medical research on weight gain and loss and some of it is contrary to my experience and that of my family. It really is a case of horses for courses.
As an aside, I remember an experiment we conducted some time investigating glucose metabolic demand and brain development. Turn out that most studies massively underestimate the metabolic demands of an active and growing human brain. It was proposed that our protracted prepubescence is a partly a result of the massive energy demands in forming an adult brain....
Food for thought eh?
stanwan said:
As an aside, I remember an experiment we conducted some time investigating glucose metabolic demand and brain development. Turn out that most studies massively underestimate the metabolic demands of an active and growing human brain. It was proposed that our protracted prepubescence is a partly a result of the massive energy demands in forming an adult brain....
Seems not to work however, the majority of land whales seem to have an IQ of around 70.......Hoofy said:
Funny this thread pops up.
I find the posters advertising Magic Mike XXL offensive. Are they implying that any man who doesn't have a six pack is not magic?
I am going to go cheer myself up with a packet of chocolate digestives.
Not picking on you particularly but this seems to happen a lot:I find the posters advertising Magic Mike XXL offensive. Are they implying that any man who doesn't have a six pack is not magic?
I am going to go cheer myself up with a packet of chocolate digestives.PH to women said:
Of course you can have a body like that-stop whining fattie, put the biscuits away, lift more, do less cardio and you'll be able to have any body you want-metabolism's got f
k all to do with it, stop being lazy and get yourself to the gym. Anyway you're not fussed about equality or objectification you're just jealous because you're not getting laid.
k all to do with it, stop being lazy and get yourself to the gym. Anyway you're not fussed about equality or objectification you're just jealous because you're not getting laid. PH to men said:
Yeah, the Diet Coke ad is shocking too. Bet the mumsnetters are creaming themselves over it-bunch of hypocrites.
cookie118 said:
PH to women said:
Of course you can have a body like that-stop whining fattie, put the biscuits away, lift more, do less cardio and you'll be able to have any body you want-metabolism's got fk all to do with it, stop being lazy and get yourself to the gym. Anyway you're not fussed about equality or objectification you're just jealous because you're not getting laid.
k all to do with it, stop being lazy and get yourself to the gym. Anyway you're not fussed about equality or objectification you're just jealous because you're not getting laid. I so can't be bothered to read through 49 pages of men attempting to show how sensitive and modern they are by being offended on behalf of women by things strangers wrote on the internet but I'm guessing the diet coke ad mentioned features an attractive person which is somehow unacceptable? Maybe I should be offended by shampoo adverts, my hair isn't lustrous and can't be tossed in slow motion so it must be impossible and obviously makes me feel like an inferior human being
.Johnnytheboy said:
Hoofy said:
Johnnytheboy said:
Hoofy said:
Am having a thick moment, cookie, please explain?
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