Less attractive women whinging about attractive advert lady

Less attractive women whinging about attractive advert lady

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Johnny

9,652 posts

285 months

Wednesday 15th June 2016
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Oakey said:
so not being fat is 'unhealthy' and 'unrealistic' now? And we're still trying to combat an obesity problem? Or have we just said "fk it" on trying to fix that?

If I was that protein company I would find some fat whale, stick her in a bikini and run that as "are you beach body ready?"

Edited by Oakey on Wednesday 15th June 20:57
Quite.

I find it unhealthy and unrealistic that that being in shape can be seen in such a bad light. What a load of complete bks.

Just because you're a fat, lazy, Pringle-eating doesn't mean the body in the ad is unrealistic. And it's certainly not unhealthy.

MikeT66

2,680 posts

125 months

Thursday 16th June 2016
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J4CKO said:
Its crap isnt it, there are a few main types/mindsets,



1/ Spends all year working out, eating right and gets to pose and preen on the beach, looks great, generally annoying as fk, lads particularly when they have a six pack get it out at every opportunity, whether innapropriate or not, the women tend to dream up some imaginary flaw and go on about it "Im soooo fat", they are actually making the point that they arent and fishing for compliments.

2/ Looks like a pasty, wobbling block of lard or 2A/ looks like a little translucent, skinny alien, doesnt give a st, totally oblivious, gets on with it.



3/ This article is about the third type, fat and self concious, feels exposed and wears a massive fleece and cagoul on a roaring hot day at the beach, prentends to be cold, slightly jealous of the type 2 (ironic...) fat and happy type and massively jealous of the type one folk who are busy playing volleyball, acting all goofy, having loads of sex and generally enjoying being physically attractive, they then decide to piss on these people bonfire in the only way they can, going on about the objectification of women, yeah right, all those super fit young ladies with their perfect breasts bouncing about in Ibiza, lapping up all the attenion are worried about being objectified, nah, they are by and large loving being wanted, adored, its part of the human condition.

Being attractive makes life easier, otherwise quite dim women get to have lifestyles they couldnt dream of based on their own career possibilities, i.e. modelling or marrying a rich bloke, the office fitty always gets cut some slack by dopey men being nice in the vain hope she may hounour them with a shag where the dumpier one gets left to sort stuff out herself.

You can dress it up as unfair but we are animals, sure we break our programming here and there being the most intelligent species but we are still instinct driven, we objectify women, because we want to breed, women do it as well, they have the same set of insticts but perhaps arent as pathetic and desperate as us chaps with our Spawning Salmon mentality.

Its not pleasant really, but dressing it up and trying to make it all fair is just garnishing the real issue, if you spend all year doing nothing and eating pies, come summer you will look like a fat blob on the beach, I include my 17 stone self in that biggrin but I have fulfilled my biological imperative and am now not desperate to breed, I would like to be a bit thinner but I am not going to try and spoil it for the lads that have spent every spare hour exercising and pumping iron by saying women shouldnt weight them up, no toned pecs on adverts.

Generally, the answer is in our own hands, if we dont want to be fat, if we want to be desired and have the confidence to show off a bit, eat right, hit the gym, discard the instant gratification of crap food, like anything, effort is required to get a result.

I am being very general here, there are many variations and subtle differences but it is a truism and the naysayers would say sod that if they woke up slim and sexy just like socialist worker party members stop protesting when they get left a million quid.
J4cko - absolutely bang on the money.

Johnnytheboy

24,498 posts

187 months

Thursday 16th June 2016
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Johnny said:
Quite.

I find it unhealthy and unrealistic that that being in shape can be seen in such a bad light. What a load of complete bks.

Just because you're a fat, lazy, Pringle-eating doesn't mean the body in the ad is unrealistic. And it's certainly not unhealthy.
According to the media being overweight makes you a "real" woman.

So thin women, by extension do not actually exist?

TLandCruiser

2,788 posts

199 months

Thursday 16th June 2016
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It annoys me too, how being fat and overweight is almost seen to be normal, men and women. I see people post pictures of overweight women in underwear on Facebook saying things like normal and sexy not skinny etc.

J4CKO

41,626 posts

201 months

Thursday 16th June 2016
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There is obviously a range, I know I am a bit overweight, nobody elses fault but my own, I make limited efforts to keep it down and have a ceiling weight and what I am comfortable at and one I feel really good at.

I am not going to try and justify it, as a human animal I weight too much for my height, not vastly huge or anything but we all know when we are at the correct weight and I am about two stone over what I would like to be, not going to blame anyone else for my lack of willpower, not going to sue the fast food companies, nobody force feeds me, nobody lifts that beer to my lips.

Why have we made a society where people dont accept responsibility and love to whinge that it is someone else fault, the government, immigrants etc etc, maybe some are fat and poor because they did cock all at school and now sit in front of the telly scoffing biscuits ?

I personally prefer the curvier woman, not massively fat, but has hips, breasts and a figure, some men prefer sporty, slimmer girls some even like super size massive morbidly obese women but they are generally a niche, I imagine most women dont find a massive beer belly, moobs and flabby jowls a turn on either.

It isnt all about sexual attraction either, it is health, mental as well as physical, and the simple pleasure of being comfortable, your belt not cutting into you, clothes fitting.

It is however a long road and a hard one, we are programmed to eat salty, fatty and sugary food, it is satisfying but for real gratification you need to be the right weight and not have to wear elasticated jogging bottoms all the time, you have failed at that point but we keep on going for the short term fix, the blood sugar rush, the feeling of fullness, avoiding being out of breath.

If you cant beat them, join them, no point in getting jealous, a few years back there was a dad at the kids school who was a little short, fat prick but had loads of money, he made a few digs at me on a school barbecue, I was mortified and raging, my missus just said it is him feeling threatened because I was six inches taller, quite a bit younger, pretty slim and in good shape, she was spot on, any pillock can finance a flash car but there is no short cut to being in shape, its easier if you are rich and have time but anyone can do it if they are motivated.



Edited by J4CKO on Thursday 16th June 09:46

otolith

56,198 posts

205 months

Thursday 16th June 2016
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RE the statement from Khan - if "unrealistic" means "photoshopped" and "unhealthy" means "anorexic fashion models", he's got a point. I don't see why images of fit and healthy people would be banned. The thing that upset people about the original advert wasn't the model's physique, it was the implication that there was an obligation to make one's body socially acceptable. If it had just said "Fancy looking like this? Buy our stuff!" I don't think it would have got so many backs up.

Soov535

35,829 posts

272 months

Thursday 16th June 2016
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anonymous said:
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Bang on.

The girl in the "beach body ready advert" was a reminder to the swamp donkeys of London that they are swamp donkeys. If they expended half the effort down the gym that they did moaning they'd all look like that.

Plus Khan is pandering to the "community".


chrisb92

1,051 posts

125 months

Thursday 16th June 2016
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J4CKO said:
There is obviously a range, I know I am a bit overweight, nobody elses fault but my own, I make limited efforts to keep it down and have a ceiling weight and what I am comfortable at and one I feel really good at.

I am not going to try and justify it, as a human animal I weight too much for my height, not vastly huge or anything but we all know when we are at the correct weight and I am about two stone over what I would like to be, not going to blame anyone else for my lack of willpower, not going to sue the fast food companies, nobody force feeds me, nobody lifts that beer to my lips.

Why have we made a society where people dont accept responsibility and love to whinge that it is someone else fault, the government, immigrants etc etc, maybe some are fat and poor because they did cock all at school and now sit in front of the telly scoffing biscuits ?

I personally prefer the curvier woman, not massively fat, but has hips, breasts and a figure, some men prefer sporty, slimmer girls some even like super size massive morbidly obese women but they are generally a niche, I imagine most women dont find a massive beer belly, moobs and flabby jowls a turn on either.

It isnt all about sexual attraction either, it is health, mental as well as physical, and the simple pleasure of being comfortable, your belt not cutting into you, clothes fitting.

It is however a long road and a hard one, we are programmed to eat salty, fatty and sugary food, it is satisfying but for real gratification you need to be the right weight and not have to wear elasticated jogging bottoms all the time, you have failed at that point but we keep on going for the short term fix, the blood sugar rush, the feeling of fullness, avoiding being out of breath.

If you cant beat them, join them, no point in getting jealous, a few years back there was a dad at the kids school who was a little short, fat prick but had loads of money, he made a few digs at me on a school barbecue, I was mortified and raging, my missus just said it is him feeling threatened because I was six inches taller, quite a bit younger, pretty slim and in good shape, she was spot on, any pillock can finance a flash car but there is no short cut to being in shape, its easier if you are rich and have time but anyone can do it if they are motivated.



Edited by J4CKO on Thursday 16th June 09:46
I often agree with your posts and this one is bang on too!

I'm quite the opposite to you and would ideally be two stone heavier, but I know I just don't have the time/will power to hit the gym as much as I should and eat as much as I should regularly. It's no body elses fault other than mine, but I take the positives out of it and if someone thinks I'm not big enough I couldn't care less. My only thought if I saw a picture of a man in perfect shape, 'beach ready', would be 'fk sake, I wish I had the motivation to have a body like that'.

Being overweight is unhealthy, fact. Condoning it is PC gone wild. There's so many health issues which can be had due to poor diet and obesity and any girl who looks at a poster like that and feels offended is a girl I don't want to know. I'm not saying everyone needs to be in perfect shape or should even want to be that perfect, but at least recognise it's healthier than being a lazy, fat slob!

They are also body shaming the girl on the poster, which is the exact thing they feel the advert is doing to them. Absurd behaviour.

otolith

56,198 posts

205 months

Thursday 16th June 2016
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anonymous said:
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That's true. Something of a double standard, but you know, it's only men. It's not as if we actually matter, and anyway we're all too stupid and thick skinned to be affected by that kind of thing. Rising rates of eating disorders amongst young men are hardly going to worry anyone when we already ignore their suicide rates.

Soov535

35,829 posts

272 months

Thursday 16th June 2016
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otolith said:
anonymous said:
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That's true. Something of a double standard, but you know, it's only men. It's not as if we actually matter, and anyway we're all too stupid and thick skinned to be affected by that kind of thing. Rising rates of eating disorders amongst young men are hardly going to worry anyone when we already ignore their suicide rates.
Elegantly put.


Johnny

9,652 posts

285 months

Thursday 16th June 2016
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Soov535

35,829 posts

272 months

Thursday 16th June 2016
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otolith said:
anonymous said:
[redacted]
That's true. Something of a double standard, but you know, it's only men. It's not as if we actually matter, and anyway we're all too stupid and thick skinned to be affected by that kind of thing. Rising rates of eating disorders amongst young men are hardly going to worry anyone when we already ignore their suicide rates.
My son watches Peppa Pig. That's a fking anti man cartoon if wever there was one.

If I hear "silly Daddy" again I am going to throttle him.

rofl

Oakey

27,592 posts

217 months

Thursday 16th June 2016
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Axionknight

8,505 posts

136 months

Thursday 16th June 2016
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rofl

krunchkin

2,209 posts

142 months

Thursday 16th June 2016
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Muslim mayor already decreeing that images of women are unacceptable. Surprised there's not more rage about this on here

Oakey

27,592 posts

217 months

Thursday 16th June 2016
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krunchkin said:
Muslim mayor already decreeing that images of women are unacceptable. Surprised there's not more rage about this on here
I had considered an alternative poster...

whistle

don4l

10,058 posts

177 months

krunchkin

2,209 posts

142 months

Thursday 16th June 2016
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So he lied through his teeth about reducing fare prices. But he's cracking straight on with making sure women stay
Covered in public spaces. Well done London

Soov535

35,829 posts

272 months

Thursday 16th June 2016
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krunchkin said:
So he lied through his teeth about reducing fare prices. But he's cracking straight on with making sure women stay
Covered in public spaces. Well done London
London is well on the way to becoming a ghetto.


ThunderGuts

12,230 posts

195 months

Thursday 16th June 2016
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Oakey said:
I had considered an alternative poster...

whistle
Do it!


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