Less attractive women whinging about attractive advert lady

[FarleyRusk]

castex said:

JensenA said:

So I agree with the protests.

Me too, these are my kind of protests.

Girl in the black bikini looks pretty fit to me.

[grumbledoak]

FarleyRusk said:

Girl in the black bikini looks pretty fit to me.

That word. I don't think it means what you think it means.

[King Herald]

Mr GrimNasty said:

No. If a woman can't respect her own body, why should anyone else.

Great point! Nobody has to be fat.

I'm fat, and I know why: I eat too much and don't work out enough, Simples.

If you don't want to be fat, then eat less food, it all begins with eating less food, nothing else. If you can't handle that, don't complain to other people about it.

[Moonhawk]

I wonder if the same people also protest about magazines like this:

[Hoofy]

grumbledoak said:

FarleyRusk said:

Girl in the black bikini looks pretty fit to me.

That word. I don't think it means what you think it means.

The "issue" for me (well, tbh I couldn't give a st about either person as I don't know them but since they put themselves out there like this, I think it's fair to comment), is that they're probably on the high end of the "normal" weight for BMI (BMI works for them because they don't look like they play rugby or enter women's bodybuilding competitions - I might be wrong). Maybe they are both regular marathon runners so they are fit? Maybe they're halfway through their weight loss journey - not sure because they're anti-poster so just making excuses for being overweight.

I can tell you one thing - they might be this shape because they're probably in their early 20s but in 10 years' time with their anti-poster attitude, they will have a baby following them around playing a tuba.

[Hoofy]

MitchT said:

Hoofy said:

Oakey said:

I'm fairly confident bodies like that are realistic, I've seen quite a few.

Yep. I hear it all the time about photoshopped bodies but in the gym I belong to there are some women there who are in very good shape, all ages, too, not just 20 year old models.

Same at my gym too. But, we live in an age where a woman isn't considered 'real' unless she has a muffin top. Physical evidence of a healthy diet and regular exercise is to be demonized.

Yep. Maybe they photoshop the women in the gyms we attend.

One of my friends happened to share a hotel with a bunch of fashion models once. Not as exciting as it sounds as he was with his family. But when he was jogging in the gym on the treadmill, the models turned up. In his words, it was like running next to gazelles. He felt embarrassed at his slow pace. Interesting insight, I thought.

Eat healthily, train hard... or bh about people doing stuff you can't be bothered to do? I know what 45,000 fatties choose.

[Asterix]

[anonymous-user]

Hoofy said:

I can tell you one thing - they might be this shape because they're probably in their early 20s but in 10 years' time with their anti-poster attitude, they will have a baby following them around playing a tuba.

Exactly.

They look to be verging on entering the 'overweight' range on the BMI scale, and if that's in their early 20's they need to start watching what they eat and how much exercise they do as soon as possible otherwise they will be well overweight by the time they hit 30+

And for those that didn't get Hoofy's baby/tuba reference: http://youtu.be/d0aIqx1McVI

[Pan Pan Pan]

Asterix said:

As posted earlier the women who seem to make a fuss about this seem to be those that no one wants to look at anyway.

But if women `don't' want to be looked at, WTF do they spend billions every year on fashion, make up, hair dressers, fitness studios, diets etc and on the adverts for said items?

[TurboHatchback]

Hoofy said:

MitchT said:

Hoofy said:

Oakey said:

I'm fairly confident bodies like that are realistic, I've seen quite a few.

Yep. I hear it all the time about photoshopped bodies but in the gym I belong to there are some women there who are in very good shape, all ages, too, not just 20 year old models.

Same at my gym too. But, we live in an age where a woman isn't considered 'real' unless she has a muffin top. Physical evidence of a healthy diet and regular exercise is to be demonized.

Yep. Maybe they photoshop the women in the gyms we attend.

Indeed, looking like the model is entirely attainable it just takes some discipline and hard work. Society seems to have normalised being fat to such an extent that it's now considered abnormal to be a healthy attractive shape. That body image is only 'unrealistic' if your plan to attain it involves eating badly and not training properly or at all (like most women). Being a fat heifer doesn't make you a 'real woman', it just shows you're lazy, weak minded and have no pride or self respect.

You could guarantee that if the picture was of some bloke with shredded abs nobody would have complained about it at all.

[anonymous-user]

photosnob said:

Yes she said it on the radio. I'm somewhat uncomfortable with my singing skills (I'm tone deaf) for that reason I don't chose to get up in a room full of people and sing to them... Anyone claiming to be insecure about an aspect of themselves whilst choosing to earn their money by doing the same thing is talking rubbish!

Perhaps she does like the look of that bikini - but by posting photo's of herself to make a point she is opening herself up for criticism.

Feminists are against anything they can think off. They are professional moaners. They are middle class white women who feel the need to be a victim so they have something to feel better about. Here is an idea for you - everyone is going to be judged... Live with it. I was a very poor bodybuilder in a past life. I was judged both on stage and off it. I didn't go around complaining about it!!! I know blokes who still do it who work as strippers... They don't go around complaining about being objectified! Get a grip man.

Now please do tell me - has your Mrs put you up to this? Are you whipped and made to tow her party line?

They're not complaining about being objectified, it's the idea that they HAVE to have that body to go to the beach. Yes women's fitness has the same thing and it probably gets compolained about but that's more targeted and isn't just plastered all over the tube.

You chose to be a bodybuilder-your mates choose to be strippers.
Women don't choose to be judged on their bodies but they do. Is Emma Watson campaigning for feminism because she's a 'fattie'-of course not!! She's doing so because when she makes a powerful speech at the UN the Mail judges her on how she dresses, and when people threaten to release naked photos of her people don't think how terrible it is and that she's being threatened by images of her own body, they argue (at least on PH) about whether it'd be ok to look at the photos because she was a child star!!

It's not about making excuses for fat either. Several of the complainants who have tweeted the company have said that it was images like these that caused them to feel bad about their bodies and led to anorexia. Ultimately media male body stereotypes tend towards the athleticand healthy whereas women's tend towards the skinny regardless of athletiscism and health.

No, my missus hasn't put me up to this. Lord help your missus or daughters if they ever decide to stand up for something they believe in-If they raised an issue about the advert would you shout them down as fatties as well??

[Landlord]

Why can't they just ignore the advert? It just shows how much advertising pervades our lives and how much so many people pay attention to it. It's just trying to sell you something. You have to allow yourself to get upset by such things. Change your attitude. Don't try and change the world to suit you.

[Vincefox]

Balance in all things.

A body which tells the story of obsessive, extreme or poorly disciplined living is not to be celebrated, at either end of the scale.

[Asterix]

I thought the chubbies were 'happy', that's what they keep telling everyone.

[200bhp]

They're right. Its only men who look at the body of the opposite sex........

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JV8JPZyJiuE

[Boydie88]

Pan Pan Pan said:

As posted earlier the women who seem to make a fuss about this seem to be those that no one wants to look at anyway.

But if women `don't' want to be looked at, WTF do they spend billions every year on fashion, make up, hair dressers, fitness studios, diets etc and on the adverts for said items?

The bird (offensive term alert!) that set up the petition is pretty tidy actually.

[Rude-boy]

Oakey said:

Have you ever met a woman that wasn't insecure about her body?

I once met one who said that she was not insecure about her body and was very happy with it.

This was the same lady who then refused point blank to set up a Mii character to play on the Wii Fit as it involved being weighed - something none of the others there had an issue with including my lady who has turned being critical about her boy into an art form.

[Cheese Mechanic]

CountZero23 said:

Nothing to do with sexism, though the feminists have hijacked it.
It's this very strange idea that it's 'ok' to be fat and it's in the same category as racism to be be 'fattist'.

Its basically the obese making excuses for the way they are , which in the vast majority of cases is entirely their own fault.

Unfortunately, as somebody who detests governmental interference in just about everything, there does seem to be a need for some kind of legislation on processed foods. Although, this would punish all, not all that eat processed muck are obese, or even overweight, for that matter.

Thinking on though, there is , or was a law on vagrancy , where it was deemed a criminal offence to not look after oneself (or something along those lines) . Perhaps a similar approach could be taken where once a certain BMI multiple has been passed, then court imposed restrictions could be passed on the individual. As example, those on benefits would recieve token for certain foods only, instead of cash. Those not on benefits be under court censure for not losing weight.Entirely imperfect, a difficult scenario I think.

I'm one of those who is fed up with everybody being penalised for the actions of a few , but fact is, this obesity madness does need addressing somehow.

[Sonic]

Cheese Mechanic said:

Its basically the obese making excuses for the way they are , which in the vast majority of cases is entirely their own fault.

I think its actually worse than that - they're protesting and complaining because they want their obesity to be considered normal by the majority of the population. It's liberalism and PC gone too far - where everything should be accepted for what it is, whatever it is.

I'm an overweight rotund late 20-something working in IT. I don't feel particularly self-conscious about it or the chiseled blokes on the underwear i buy as already mentioned, and i don't for a second think i should be considered normal or indeed encouraged to do anything other than loose a bit of weight.

The slightly bit of discomfort or shame i may occasionally feel should damn-well be encouraged to make me lose weight - not the complete opposite!

[FrankAbagnale]

I'd imagine the company advertising have a target market of females who keep themselves in shape and as such a marketing campaign aimed at their target market is best served by using a model that represents them.

I can see the angle the protesters are coming from, but completely fail to see how they find the advert so offensive.

Would the below advert be less offensive? Or is objectification of ANY body type the issue?



I'm honestly not sure of the answer but i'm sure it would completely alienate their target market and be a ridiculous marketing campaign.

Or on a car forum.. do prius drivers who vote green and are staunch environmentalists find the below advert offensive as it idealises a gas guzzling high emissions car as a dream car? Or, do they accept that some people have different ideals to them and to aspire to a different "model" is completely acceptable in a relatively free society?



Sometimes I worry that I am completely out of touch and the world is moving forwards without me.

Edited by FrankAbagnale on Tuesday 28th April 10:28