Now you cant be deported if you are a drunk
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So either owning a cat, or liking a tipple, is enough to make sure you never get deported...and this is control of our borders? Plus he's not from the EU so it's nothing to do with the usual target. This is entirely in the hands of UK politicians and reflects their lack of desire to do anything about it, versus the bulls
t they expect us to swallow.
This is UK Govenrment policy designed to ensure that UK women are subject to sexual assault (from this individual) plus other assorted crimes. None of the parties are clean on this it's just a question of how complicit.
t they expect us to swallow. This is UK Govenrment policy designed to ensure that UK women are subject to sexual assault (from this individual) plus other assorted crimes. None of the parties are clean on this it's just a question of how complicit.
So either owning a cat, or liking a tipple, is enough to make sure you never get deported...and this is control of our borders? Plus he's not from the EU so it's nothing to do with the usual target. This is entirely in the hands of UK politicians and reflects their lack of desire to do anything about it, versus the bullst they expect us to swallow.
This is UK Govenrment policy designed to ensure that UK women are subject to sexual assault (from this individual) plus other assorted crimes. None of the parties are clean on this it's just a question of how complicit.
t they expect us to swallow. This is UK Govenrment policy designed to ensure that UK women are subject to sexual assault (from this individual) plus other assorted crimes. None of the parties are clean on this it's just a question of how complicit.
Another interesting recent case.
express said:
Britain forced to let deported illegal immigrant family BACK IN after human rights ruling
A court ruled that the government must find the woman and her five-year-old son by tomorrow or they will face contempt of court proceedings.
The move casts doubt over plans by Home Secretary Theresa May to deport illegal immigrants before they have a chance to launch protracted appeals.
The woman, who first came to the UK from Nigeria in 1991 and worked illegally for years, attempted to claim asylum in 2010 because she feared persecution.
Officials refused the claim and she was deported in January this year.
But now Justice Cranston has said the child's best interests were not taken into account and the family could be forced into poverty in Africa.
http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/572036/immigration-Britain-family-Nigeria-Home-Office-migrationA court ruled that the government must find the woman and her five-year-old son by tomorrow or they will face contempt of court proceedings.
The move casts doubt over plans by Home Secretary Theresa May to deport illegal immigrants before they have a chance to launch protracted appeals.
The woman, who first came to the UK from Nigeria in 1991 and worked illegally for years, attempted to claim asylum in 2010 because she feared persecution.
Officials refused the claim and she was deported in January this year.
But now Justice Cranston has said the child's best interests were not taken into account and the family could be forced into poverty in Africa.
richie99 said:
Plus he's not from the EU so it's nothing to do with the usual target.
It kind of is, in that the law affecting this is the UK's implementation of the Council of Europe's European Convention on Human Rights, which is tied up with the interrelated institutions, treaties, courts and case law of the European Union, the Council of Europe and the European Court of Human Rights. otolith said:
richie99 said:
Plus he's not from the EU so it's nothing to do with the usual target.
It kind of is, in that the law affecting this is the UK's implementation of the Council of Europe's European Convention on Human Rights, which is tied up with the interrelated institutions, treaties, courts and case law of the European Union, the Council of Europe and the European Court of Human Rights. Esseesse said:
otolith said:
richie99 said:
Plus he's not from the EU so it's nothing to do with the usual target.
It kind of is, in that the law affecting this is the UK's implementation of the Council of Europe's European Convention on Human Rights, which is tied up with the interrelated institutions, treaties, courts and case law of the European Union, the Council of Europe and the European Court of Human Rights. The ECHR was draw up in the 1950 by the Council of Europe and came into force 3 September 1953 with all members as parties. Any new member must sign up to the convention.
While The Council of Europe does contain all the EU members states it also contains many European states not in the EU such as:
Turkey
Iceland
Switzerland
Finland
Albania
Moldova
Ukraine
Russia
Croatia
Georgia
Armenia
Azerbaijan
Bosnia and Herzegovina
Serbia
Montenegro
The ECHR is not an EU convention and the Council of Europe and the European Court of Human Rights are not EU institutions. However, the question of whether the UK could disregard the ECHR and the decisions of the Strasbourg court is one in which EU membership is an integral factor.
Briefing paper setting out arguments for and against the idea that ECHR compliance is a de facto mandatory condition of EU membership;
www.parliament.uk/briefing-papers/SN06577.pdf
Basically, anyone who says the two issues are unrelated either has only a simplistic understanding of the situation or is lying.
Briefing paper setting out arguments for and against the idea that ECHR compliance is a de facto mandatory condition of EU membership;
www.parliament.uk/briefing-papers/SN06577.pdf
Basically, anyone who says the two issues are unrelated either has only a simplistic understanding of the situation or is lying.
Taxpayers have been funding this man for over 20 years.
"Jihadi John’s extremist ‘mentor’ cannot be deported because of his human rights"
" Hani al-Sibai, 54, is believed to have influenced and radicalized a number of young men, including Islamic State (IS, formerly ISIS/ISIL) executioner Jihadi John, whose real name is Mohammed Emwazi.
Despite being identified as an affiliate of al-Qaeda, attempts to deport him from the UK have been blocked for more than 15 years because of his human rights.
Egyptian-born al-Sibai is living in a taxpayer subsidized flat in Hammersmith, London, worth up to £1 million. Ayman al-Zawahiri, who became the leader of al-Qaeda after Osama bin Laden’s death, and al-Sibai are said to be “long term allies.”
Other associates of al-Sibai are Adel Abdel Bari, another Egyptian-born jihadist and al-Qaeda operative who was sentenced to 25 years in prison in the US for a number of terror plots. Bari’s son Abdel-Majed Abdel Bary, a former London rapper, is known to be fighting with ISIS in Syria. "
http://rt.com/uk/253401-extremist-preacher-emwazi-...
"Jihadi John’s extremist ‘mentor’ cannot be deported because of his human rights"
" Hani al-Sibai, 54, is believed to have influenced and radicalized a number of young men, including Islamic State (IS, formerly ISIS/ISIL) executioner Jihadi John, whose real name is Mohammed Emwazi.
Despite being identified as an affiliate of al-Qaeda, attempts to deport him from the UK have been blocked for more than 15 years because of his human rights.
Egyptian-born al-Sibai is living in a taxpayer subsidized flat in Hammersmith, London, worth up to £1 million. Ayman al-Zawahiri, who became the leader of al-Qaeda after Osama bin Laden’s death, and al-Sibai are said to be “long term allies.”
Other associates of al-Sibai are Adel Abdel Bari, another Egyptian-born jihadist and al-Qaeda operative who was sentenced to 25 years in prison in the US for a number of terror plots. Bari’s son Abdel-Majed Abdel Bary, a former London rapper, is known to be fighting with ISIS in Syria. "
http://rt.com/uk/253401-extremist-preacher-emwazi-...
What a completely deplorable situtain the yUK has created for itself.fk HR, these people dont know what they are . Probably being supported by some brit lawyer as well.
fk PC as well, these "people" can say and do as they wish because of the home brewed inescapable situation created by being so fking "British".!
k HR, these people dont know what they are . Probably being supported by some brit lawyer as well.f
k PC as well, these "people" can say and do as they wish because of the home brewed inescapable situation created by being so fking "British".!otolith said:
The ECHR is not an EU convention and the Council of Europe and the European Court of Human Rights are not EU institutions. However, the question of whether the UK could disregard the ECHR and the decisions of the Strasbourg court is one in which EU membership is an integral factor.
Briefing paper setting out arguments for and against the idea that ECHR compliance is a de facto mandatory condition of EU membership;
www.parliament.uk/briefing-papers/SN06577.pdf
Basically, anyone who says the two issues are unrelated either has only a simplistic understanding of the situation or is lying.
Sorry for coming with my simplistic understanding. My simplistic assessment is that other countries, including EU members, ignore ECHR rulings with complete impunity. I am also not aware that freedom to spend your life sBriefing paper setting out arguments for and against the idea that ECHR compliance is a de facto mandatory condition of EU membership;
www.parliament.uk/briefing-papers/SN06577.pdf
Basically, anyone who says the two issues are unrelated either has only a simplistic understanding of the situation or is lying.
tfaced is defined as a human right. richie99 said:
Sorry for coming with my simplistic understanding. My simplistic assessment is that other countries, including EU members, ignore ECHR rulings with complete impunity. I am also not aware that freedom to spend your life stfaced is defined as a human right.
It isn't, but apparently the ridicule and punishment he'd recieve at home, in a Muslim country, counts in his favour (which I disagree with).tfaced is defined as a human right. Aye the other EU nations are all for ignoring the rules when it suits them, our beurocrats can't follow the letter of the law strictly enough though - sad to say.
Axionknight said:
It isn't, but apparently the ridicule and punishment he'd recieve at home, in a Muslim country, counts in his favour (which I disagree with).
Aye the other EU nations are all for ignoring the rules when it suits them, our beurocrats can't follow the letter of the law strictly enough though - sad to say.
I agree. So it is the avowed UK Government policy of falling down and worshipping at the alter of the EHCR which results in decisions like this. Nothing to do with the EU, nothing even to do with the EHCR. The UK could just ignore the court if it had even a smidgen of interest in protecting the safety of UK citizens. Aye the other EU nations are all for ignoring the rules when it suits them, our beurocrats can't follow the letter of the law strictly enough though - sad to say.
Is it even a real court? (Rhetorical question).
So, repeal the Human Rights Act, ignore the judgements from the EHCR and pretend everything in the garden is lovely, the same a every other country does.
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