Just found out my neighbour is the Green Party candidate...

[supersingle]

Sway said:

Jasandjules said:

Tell him you hope in time he is executed for his part in the excess deaths of thousands of elderly due to his AGW bull**t. That should be subtle enough.

That echoes my true thoughts pretty damn closely!

With the seal clubbing thing - seals were on the beach 150m from my front door last summer, hoping they arrive soon - can have a legitimate sporting excuse for the baseball bat next to the bed...

You lucky git! Give him a lovely pair of seal skin mittens. Greens love that ethnic chic.

[anonymous-user]

BoRED S2upid said:

Invite him in Rig up a live webcast and we can all have a laugh.

This isn't the American Pie thread, but that was funny and she was tidy

[FourWheelDrift]

Studio117 said:

show him your pickled blue whales penis?

They can cure that now.

[audidoody]

Tell him you'll vote for him if he cuts his passport in two (as the Green's don't believe in national boundaries)

[Pit Pony]

Tell him you would but you work for the Government in a Top Secret Establishment, and am not allowed to vote for the people you spy on.

Ask him why he thinks you live near him? The Government has their eye on him, and you are actually only coming and going in order to feed the 3 spys who work shifts in your house monitoring him?

You can't say anymore, but be careful to check any yogurts in your fridge, as they might have some sort of drug that induces a massive fatal stroke. They've done it before. Anyway, mums the word, I'll deny it anyway.

I've told my extended family, that if I find out that any of them voted green, that's the last time they come in my house. Do they want me out of a job and on the dole?

[Axionknight]

Buy a V8, right away.....

Or, in the words of Mr Patrick Bateman:

JUST

SAY

NO

[BrassMan]

Shambler said:

Hammer frozen dolphin foetus into his lawn.

Where do Occado get them from?

[Blaster72]

I've just had my local Green Party nutcase drop a leaflet through, apparently they will build 500,000 new social homes by 2020.

That's 100,000 a year every year or 270 each and every day. How the heck are they going to do that??

They're also going to phase out fossil fuel and nuclear power generation - no suggestion of how to replace it.

£10 per hour minimum wage - again no clue how they're paying for it.

Bunch of clowns full of empty promises. Tell your neighbour he's a complete lunatic who will never get elected

[Magog]

Blaster72 said:

That's 100,000 a year every year or 270 each and every day. How the heck are they going to do that??

[SeeFive]

Set fire to his house and then afterwards complain about the damage done by his carbon footprint.

[Willy Nilly]

Blaster72 said:

Oh dear, he drives a Jazz. Best just to lie and tell him you'll vote for him.

That and always make sure you leave the house before he does, every Jazz I've seen on the road seems to have a top speed of about 20mph.

They go much, much faster than that

[Colonial]

Show how much you care about democracy and free speech by laughing at a series of pathetic jokes from people who would never have the balls to get involved in the political system and then do nothing because without a keyboard it's hard to be a tough man.

[speedy_thrills]

Sway said:

Is there any way this is going to end with continuing good neighbour relations?

You think your chances of being friendly with a neighbour have been diminished by the fact he likes a different political party? Most of us disagree on one issue or another but have the social skills to just move a conversation along. After all having a friendly chat with your neighbour is probably much more important than which political party is in power.

[speedy_thrills]

Blaster72 said:

I've just had my local Green Party nutcase drop a leaflet through, apparently they will build 500,000 new social homes by 2020. That's 100,000 a year every year or 270 each and every day. How the heck are they going to do that??

With bricks, wood and nails I'd imagine. The UK built ~300,000 houses/year post WW2 for decades. With the increase in population since, mechanisation, technology etc. it doesn't look massively ambitious.

Blaster72 said:

They're also going to phase out fossil fuel and nuclear power generation - no suggestion of how to replace it.

Alternatives probably, the world is now adding more capacity for renewable power each year than coal, natural gas, and oil combined. When you look at the nuclear situation it's taking subsidies and price guarantees to get any private company interested in operating a plant.

Blaster72 said:

£10 per hour minimum wage - again no clue how they're paying for it.

Companies that employ people will pay them more I'd imagine.

[AJS-]

Stop pussy footing around these people. What he is standing for is far more offensive than your rejection of it, and you have as much right to be angry as he does.

You don't have to be rude or aggressive, just say that you don't believe global warming, no amount of "scientific consensus" or political propaganda will make you believe in global warming, and even if you did then it doesn't necessarily follow that it is a problem, or that large scale state intervention is the best answer.

If he can't either have a civilised discussion about it or, more likely, give up and move on while maintaining friendly neighbourly relations then he has a problem, not you.

From what little political campaigning I have done it's usually quite refreshing to talk to someone with some reasoned thoughts on it, even if they are the opposite of your own.

[Colonial]

AJS- said:

Stop pussy footing around these people. What he is standing for is far more offensive than your rejection of it , and you have as much right to be angry as he does.

You don't have to be rude or aggressive, just say that you don't believe global warming, no amount of "scientific consensus" or political propaganda will make you believe in global warming, and even if you did then it doesn't necessarily follow that it is a problem, or that large scale state intervention is the best answer.

If he can't either have a civilised discussion about it or, more likely, give up and move on while maintaining friendly neighbourly relations then he has a problem, not you.

From what little political campaigning I have done it's usually quite refreshing to talk to someone with some reasoned thoughts on it, even if they are the opposite of your own.

Yes. I'm sure entering in to a discussion based on that rhetoric will present you as as "someone with some well reasoned thoughts on it".

Are they a decent neighbour? Yes/No.

If yes then if you disagree on politics then who the fk cares? Why does every conversation have to be about "winning" the argument?

[speedy_thrills]

AJS- said:

...no amount of "scientific consensus"...

Sounds like this anti-global warming thing has long passed being about rationalising and balancing arguments against one another and become a religion itself.

[Sway]

The humour aside, there is a genuine point.

I completely disagree with AGW, and the actions being made in it's name.

If he wasn't a neighbour, and had canvassed as normal I'd have just said 'No, I'm not voting for the Greens' and be done with it. As he is a decent neighbour, and has asked my views I feel it appropriate to give him my rationale as he's 'earnt' that respect - yet I've found that those who just support the Green Party tend to take that pretty poorly and turn evangelical...

I don't need to 'win', and convert him away from the Greens, but he'd like my point of view, I'm happy to give it, but want things to remain cordial - which seems out of my control.

[Blaster72]

speedy_thrills said:

Blaster72 said:

I've just had my local Green Party nutcase drop a leaflet through, apparently they will build 500,000 new social homes by 2020. That's 100,000 a year every year or 270 each and every day. How the heck are they going to do that??

With bricks, wood and nails I'd imagine. The UK built ~300,000 houses/year post WW2 for decades. With the increase in population since, mechanisation, technology etc. it doesn't look massively ambitious.

Blaster72 said:

They're also going to phase out fossil fuel and nuclear power generation - no suggestion of how to replace it.

Alternatives probably, the world is now adding more capacity for renewable power each year than coal, natural gas, and oil combined. When you look at the nuclear situation it's taking subsidies and price guarantees to get any private company interested in operating a plant.

Blaster72 said:

£10 per hour minimum wage - again no clue how they're paying for it.

Companies that employ people will pay them more I'd imagine.

Ok, firstly. A government organising and paying for the building of 500,000 in just five years IS hugely ambitious. We aren't in the same place as after WW2 are we? For the last few years, total house completions in England has hovered at around 100 - 120 thousand per year. Thats total. Of that local authorities build just over 1000-2000 per year. The Green Party are suggesting they alone will build the 98,000 more local authority social houses per year than currently built.

Alternatives such as wind and solar are fine but they don't work at night or when it's not windy. There's also the small problem of where to put them all, they take up huge amounts of space as well as costing vast sums of money. Take a look at the following link for the current situation and tell me just how they are going to phase out Nuclear and Fossil fuel power generation entirely??

http://gridwatch.templar.co.uk/index.php

Lastly, if the government of the day enforces a minimum wage of £10 an hour then surely they have to pay the hundreds of thousands of civil servants that same wage. Hence my wonder at how exactly they'll pay for it.

All well and good announcing all these wonderful schemes safe in the knowledge they'll never get in power and have to implement them but all it really does is make them look extremely inept.

Edited by Blaster72 on Thursday 30th April 07:05

[speedy_thrills]

Which party isn't making unfunded promises? We like to be lied to as voters, wouldn't vote for a political party that didn't sex up it's manifesto.