Who will be the new Labour leader?
Poll: Who will be the new Labour leader?
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colonel c said:
Andy Zarse said:
colonel c said:
There was some Tory boy type on the radio yesterday. He trying to explained why he had dishonestly obtained a vote in the Labour leadership ballot and that he had voted for Mr Corbyn. I was thinking what a 
. But also wouldn't it be a giggle if Corbyn won and lead the party to a victory at the next election. Tory boy and his cohorts would be laughing on the other side of their faces.
Be careful what you wish for.
Was he? Well good! . But also wouldn't it be a giggle if Corbyn won and lead the party to a victory at the next election. Tory boy and his cohorts would be laughing on the other side of their faces. Be careful what you wish for.
If, for the sake of argument, the Tories devised such a foolish system to elect their next leader, we can vouchsafe you would be on here braying like a donkey that you'd voted for Michael Fabricant or whoever.
Perhaps you'd like us to admire your standards; such as your use of foul language, calling someone a "see you next Thursday" simply because you disagree with their politics?
Maybe you mean standards like invoking class hatred by bandying "Tory boy type"?
Or even your intellectual standards in calling someone "dishonest" when the acuity of his honesty extends to broadcasting his actions live on air?
No, I certainly wasn't judging you by my own standards, you need to look a little closer to home old chap.
Stickyfinger said:
Wills2 said:
The PLP have no one but themselves to blame, the election would have been fine IF they hadn't decided to give their support to Corbyn to have a left winger on the ticket, a ridiculous decision taken by the feckless fools and they now been hoist by their own petard.
It shows that they viewed the process as some sort of internal Labour game, whereby they could allow in the token lefty to make themselves feel good about life. But it isn't an internal game as they are trying to elect the next prospective labour PM which should have been a serious business.
The real kicker for Cooper and Burnham is how much better a politician Corbyn is than them.
Dont agree on twop points...It shows that they viewed the process as some sort of internal Labour game, whereby they could allow in the token lefty to make themselves feel good about life. But it isn't an internal game as they are trying to elect the next prospective labour PM which should have been a serious business.
The real kicker for Cooper and Burnham is how much better a politician Corbyn is than them.
First, this is about getting power ...full stop.
The only power however being the leadership of the party, there is zero attempt to speak to the public, they are talking only to the tiny membership rump.
Corbyn is not an effective politician, he is playing an internal corporate take over game.
What did Napoleon say? Never interrupt your enemy while they're making a mistake.
Andy Zarse said:
colonel c said:
Andy Zarse said:
colonel c said:
There was some Tory boy type on the radio yesterday. He trying to explained why he had dishonestly obtained a vote in the Labour leadership ballot and that he had voted for Mr Corbyn. I was thinking what a . But also wouldn't it be a giggle if Corbyn won and lead the party to a victory at the next election. Tory boy and his cohorts would be laughing on the other side of their faces.
Be careful what you wish for.
Was he? Well good! . But also wouldn't it be a giggle if Corbyn won and lead the party to a victory at the next election. Tory boy and his cohorts would be laughing on the other side of their faces. Be careful what you wish for.
If, for the sake of argument, the Tories devised such a foolish system to elect their next leader, we can vouchsafe you would be on here braying like a donkey that you'd voted for Michael Fabricant or whoever.
Perhaps you'd like us to admire your standards; such as your use of foul language, calling someone a "see you next Thursday" simply because you disagree with their politics?
Maybe you mean standards like invoking class hatred by bandying "Tory boy type"?
Or even your intellectual standards in calling someone "dishonest" when the acuity of his honesty extends to broadcasting his actions live on air?
No, I certainly wasn't judging you by my own standards, you need to look a little closer to home old chap.
for doing what he did. Not because of his politics. I used 'Tory boy' as a euphemism to differentiate to person concerned from members or activists of that party who would not wish to engage in such shenanigans.
The man might be credited with admitting his actions on air. However he did cast a vote in the Labour leadership election, whereby he was required to tic a box agreeing that he believed in the "aims and values" of the Labour Party. Clearly a dishonest act.
I question your standards because you have no grounds to assume I might engage myself is similar acts with another party.
colonel c said:
I thought the guy a for doing what he did. Not because of his politics.
I used 'Tory boy' as a euphemism to differentiate to person concerned from members or activists of that party who would not wish to engage in such shenanigans.
The man might be credited with admitting his actions on air. However he did cast a vote in the Labour leadership election, whereby he was required to tic a box agreeing that he believed in the "aims and values" of the Labour Party. Clearly a dishonest act.
I question your standards because you have no grounds to assume I might engage myself is similar acts with another party.
Tell me something. What exactly are the "aims and values" of the Labour Party? And how do you know this guy doesn't support them? for doing what he did. Not because of his politics. I used 'Tory boy' as a euphemism to differentiate to person concerned from members or activists of that party who would not wish to engage in such shenanigans.
The man might be credited with admitting his actions on air. However he did cast a vote in the Labour leadership election, whereby he was required to tic a box agreeing that he believed in the "aims and values" of the Labour Party. Clearly a dishonest act.
I question your standards because you have no grounds to assume I might engage myself is similar acts with another party.
What about the tens of thousands of members of other parties such as the Greens and Socialist Workers Party who paid their £3 just to vote for Corbyn? Are they
s too? They massively outnumber the Tory moles, so why aren't you up in arms, effin' and jeffin' about them too? Andy Zarse said:
Tell me something. What exactly are the "aims and values" of the Labour Party? And how do you know this guy doesn't support them?
What about the tens of thousands of members of other parties such as the Greens and Socialist Workers Party who paid their £3 just to vote for Corbyn? Are theys too? They massively outnumber the Tory moles, so why aren't you up in arms, effin' and jeffin' about them too?
They are so broad and bland that they are whatever the "leadership" decide they are. I think it's pretty hard to disagree with What about the tens of thousands of members of other parties such as the Greens and Socialist Workers Party who paid their £3 just to vote for Corbyn? Are they
s too? They massively outnumber the Tory moles, so why aren't you up in arms, effin' and jeffin' about them too? • social justice
• strong community and strong values
• reward for hard work
• decency
• rights matched by responsibilities
Not too worried about SWP entryism - must be a no more than a couple of thousand SWP, RCP, CP or any other variant in the UK, max. We'll see a breakdown of votes for each candidate, from each section of the electorate, which will be interesting to see.
The £3 supporter vote was a strange idea - a party member of less than 12 months can't even vote for a council candidate. If the idea of extending the franchise was to engage more people in Labour politics, it's certainly done that. In the long term it may be a success if the party grows to half a million active members, when the Tory party is dying.
How dull would this contest have been without Corbyn & the extended franchise? Burnham and to an extent, Cooper, have been pulled left by Corbyn and have finally started showing a bit of spirit.
Cobnapint said:
edh said:
I think it's pretty hard to disagree with
• reward for hard work
You're kidding right...? The Labour party wants nothing more than to tax the ars* off the rich so it can give to the poor.• reward for hard work
Labour doesn't reward success, it takes revenge on it. Always has, always will.
http://www.labour.org.uk/pages/what-is-the-labour-...
your thread is over here
of course "new" Labour was famously “intensely relaxed about people getting filthy rich”, and completely in thrall to the City, which is one thing it got very wrong.
Asterix said:
He's playing it smart - he doesn't really say that much, but what he does do is allow the others to spout off.
What did Napoleon say? Never interrupt your enemy while they're making a mistake.
Big Fail there....What did Napoleon say? Never interrupt your enemy while they're making a mistake.
Corbyn Smart ??.....a has been far left fool who believes in 1930 Socialism....your having a laugh there, Corbyn has been "spouting" garbage and unreal fantasy all his life
Corbyn and Napoleon in the same sentence ?....what can anybody say to that
edh said:
• social justice
• strong community and strong values
• reward for hard work
• decency
• rights matched by responsibilities
Maybe it would be good to carve these is stone......oh wait a min ....• strong community and strong values
• reward for hard work
• decency
• rights matched by responsibilities
Edited by Stickyfinger on Monday 7th September 17:04
Stickyfinger said:
Asterix said:
He's playing it smart - he doesn't really say that much, but what he does do is allow the others to spout off.
What did Napoleon say? Never interrupt your enemy while they're making a mistake.
Big Fail there....What did Napoleon say? Never interrupt your enemy while they're making a mistake.
Corbyn Smart ??.....a has been far left fool who believes in 1930 Socialism....your having a laugh there, Corbyn has been "spouting" garbage and unreal fantasy all his life
Corbyn and Napoleon in the same sentence ?....what can anybody say to that
edh said:
• social justice
• strong community and strong values
• reward for hard work
• decency
• rights matched by responsibilities
Maybe it would be good to carve these is stone......oh wait a min ....• strong community and strong values
• reward for hard work
• decency
• rights matched by responsibilities
Edited by Stickyfinger on Monday 7th September 17:04
And for a grown up response from the right, try this
http://hitchensblog.mailonsunday.co.uk/2015/09/my-...
Andy Zarse said:
colonel c said:
I thought the guy a for doing what he did. Not because of his politics.
I used 'Tory boy' as a euphemism to differentiate to person concerned from members or activists of that party who would not wish to engage in such shenanigans.
The man might be credited with admitting his actions on air. However he did cast a vote in the Labour leadership election, whereby he was required to tic a box agreeing that he believed in the "aims and values" of the Labour Party. Clearly a dishonest act.
I question your standards because you have no grounds to assume I might engage myself is similar acts with another party.
Tell me something. What exactly are the "aims and values" of the Labour Party? And how do you know this guy doesn't support them? for doing what he did. Not because of his politics. I used 'Tory boy' as a euphemism to differentiate to person concerned from members or activists of that party who would not wish to engage in such shenanigans.
The man might be credited with admitting his actions on air. However he did cast a vote in the Labour leadership election, whereby he was required to tic a box agreeing that he believed in the "aims and values" of the Labour Party. Clearly a dishonest act.
I question your standards because you have no grounds to assume I might engage myself is similar acts with another party.
What about the tens of thousands of members of other parties such as the Greens and Socialist Workers Party who paid their £3 just to vote for Corbyn? Are they
s too? They massively outnumber the Tory moles, so why aren't you up in arms, effin' and jeffin' about them too? s too but they were not on national radio trying to justify it. Well not while I was listening. However one might argue that they actuarially support Mr Corbyn's policies and would be likely to join a party led by him.
edh said:
Oh dear...
And for a grown up response from the right, try this
http://hitchensblog.mailonsunday.co.uk/2015/09/my-...
A silly insult is as I expect from that type of mind, sad to see but its all you have is it ?And for a grown up response from the right, try this
http://hitchensblog.mailonsunday.co.uk/2015/09/my-...
Stickyfinger said:
edh said:
Oh dear...
And for a grown up response from the right, try this
http://hitchensblog.mailonsunday.co.uk/2015/09/my-...
A silly insult is as I expect from that type of mind, sad to see but its all you have is it ?And for a grown up response from the right, try this
http://hitchensblog.mailonsunday.co.uk/2015/09/my-...
Read the article and see how you can discuss politics without the childishness and with a bit of courtesy. When you show it, I'll be civil as well.
edh said:
I've got plenty more... I can even help you edit your sentences so that they make some sort of sense.
Read the article and see how you can discuss politics without the childishness and with a bit of courtesy. When you show it, I'll be civil as well.
Sadly I am sure you think you have, I however have zero interest in what you say, think or propose. Read the article and see how you can discuss politics without the childishness and with a bit of courtesy. When you show it, I'll be civil as well.
Your other postings like the last just confirm that you have nothing to say of any worth.
Andy Zarse said:
edh said:
Read the article and see how you can discuss politics without the childishness and with a bit of courtesy. When you show it, I'll be civil as well.
Courtesy and maturity? You mean like calling Tory boy types s?edh said:
Andy Zarse said:
edh said:
Read the article and see how you can discuss politics without the childishness and with a bit of courtesy. When you show it, I'll be civil as well.
Courtesy and maturity? You mean like calling Tory boy types s?
edh said:
Oh dear...
And for a grown up response from the right, try this
http://hitchensblog.mailonsunday.co.uk/2015/09/my-...
What a really good article.And for a grown up response from the right, try this
http://hitchensblog.mailonsunday.co.uk/2015/09/my-...
"‘Actually, we are impressed by this style of politics, regardless of the views expressed, and wish to see more of it. Indeed, it would be good to see all parties adopting it’."
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